Discussion: Why people do not like NTR in games?

[HDiddy]

This thread is interesting. I don't make games I make long form videos my own little Porn Soaps, but I have always wondered what is the issue with NTR. At first I thought it was just cheating, but I guess it is a little bit more than that. I have a ton infidelity and cheating in my videos because..."hey welcome to reality" people cheat, and because of that I labeled them NTR but I have been accused by some of "mis-labeling"

This thread still doesn't help define it too much for me, but interesting none the less.

 

[KaeruVN]

This thread is interesting. I don't make games I make long form videos my own little Porn Soaps, but I have always wondered what is the issue with NTR. At first I thought it was just cheating, but I guess it is a little bit more than that. I have a ton infidelity and cheating in my videos because..."hey welcome to reality" people cheat, and because of that I labeled them NTR but I have been accused by some of "mis-labeling"

This thread still doesn't help define it too much for me, but interesting none the less.

I'd say that NTR is more about the cheating being endorsed by the person being cheated on. Or it's when the viewer gets off on the idea of a person cheating.

 

[HDiddy]

I'd say that NTR is more about the cheating being endorsed by the person being cheated on. Or it's when the viewer gets off on the idea of a person cheating.

I don't know. Cheating is a part of reality. Maybe for some people the idea is to remove themselves from themes of reality, but for me my content tends to be based on a sort of "exagerrated" reality. I have had no issues with NTR games porn or otherwise...because in the end its fiction...but I can see peoples issue with it.

 

[KaeruVN]

I don't know. Cheating is a part of reality. Maybe for some people the idea is to remove themselves from themes of reality, but for me my content tends to be based on a sort of "exagerrated" reality. I have had no issues with NTR games porn or otherwise...because in the end its fiction...but I can see peoples issue with it.

Oh yeah, cheating is part of reality, but I think the general consensus is that people don't like seeing NTR/cheating in games unless they have that particular fetish. It's something you can't easily ignore like certain other fetishes and it can ruin an entire game if you see a character you like end up cheating on the MC.

And meh, if people enjoy it, more power to them. Just not something I enjoy.

 

[HDiddy]

Oh yeah, cheating is part of reality, but I think the general consensus is that people don't like seeing NTR/cheating in games unless they have that particular fetish. It's something you can't easily ignore like certain other fetishes and it can ruin an entire game if you see a character you like end up cheating on the MC.

And meh, if people enjoy it, more power to them. Just not something I enjoy.

I guess this is where it is different when you are playing the MC in a game versus watching events play out from the sideline.

 

[Hekekee]

this might be the weirdest take for a hentai game player, but i find the concept of a loved one being able to be stolen away by good sex to be very misogynistic. like as if some level of feeling good could make someone fall out of love with their loved one.

 

[Fat Brit 56]

I haven't read all the content to this topic but being pro NTR and having seen and read a lot over the last 2 years, have a pretty good idea of what's been said. As a straight old fashioned bloke I'm sick of all the Incest, Futanari and all manner of weird crap that is now the norm, mention NTR and it's like waving a red flag to an angry bull, I have my own opinions on this (insecurity in one's own relationship is just one), sadly NTR, SHARING, CUCKY, or whatever you want to call it is very stereotypical in the avn domain, weak, dickless, a loser etc.etc.etc seems to be the standard norm for an MC which sadly speaks volumes of the inability of Developers to actually think for themselves, to break the mould and to actually come up with a really good NTR title, it's 2 years old but Deliverance is one such brilliant title, the MC isn't a waste of space, the wife can be the sweet girl next door or a total slut, the mc encourages it whilst shagging the other "different" babes, I spoke at great length with the developer and he told me there is only 5% sharing within the avn, and yet the wife steals the show, there's 8 different endings and alternatives to all the sharing scenes, which imho are just as good as the sharing scenes. 99.9% of the NTR /Sharing games just have that as their one and ONLY course of action, In Deliverance NTR is just a side show to the MC's quest. A lot of developers and players also get the various forms of NTR confused/mixed up. A lot telegraph what's going to happen long before it's going to happen, or suddenly a sweet loyal wife of years is freely cheating on her husband spreading her legs within seconds of meeting a stranger, my point; how utterly boring and lacking of any imagination or realism. The best cuck scene I've seen is in Defending Lydia Collier, which as an AVN i find totally boring and story obsessed (the developer's previously abandoned title was A LOT better), anyway one of the love interests (Jenna), and my fave female is cucked by the mc/her own "female" student. NTR, SHARING or whatever you want to call it is very badly done, and has been for some while. Maybe if developers actually start developing DECENT NTR avn's it may get more of a following ?.

 

[Fat Brit 56]

I haven't read all the content to this topic but being pro NTR and having seen and read a lot over the last 2 years, have a pretty good idea of what's been said. As a straight old fashioned bloke I'm sick of all the Incest, Futanari and all manner of weird crap that is now the norm, mention NTR and it's like waving a red flag to an angry bull, I have my own opinions on this (insecurity in one's own relationship is just one), sadly NTR, SHARING, CUCKY, or whatever you want to call it is very stereotypical in the avn domain, weak, dickless, a loser etc.etc.etc seems to be the standard norm for an MC which sadly speaks volumes of the inability of Developers to actually think for themselves, to break the mould and to actually come up with a really good NTR title, it's 2 years old but Deliverance is one such brilliant title, the MC isn't a waste of space, the wife can be the sweet girl next door or a total slut, the mc encourages it whilst shagging the other "different" babes, I spoke at great length with the developer and he told me there is only 5% sharing within the avn, and yet the wife steals the show, there's 8 different endings and alternatives to all the sharing scenes, which imho are just as good as the sharing scenes. 99.9% of the NTR /Sharing games just have that as their one and ONLY course of action, In Deliverance NTR is just a side show to the MC's quest. A lot of developers and players also get the various forms of NTR confused/mixed up. A lot telegraph what's going to happen long before it's going to happen, or suddenly a sweet loyal wife of years is freely cheating on her husband spreading her legs within seconds of meeting a stranger, my point; how utterly boring and lacking of any imagination or realism. The best cuck scene I've seen is in Defending Lydia Collier, which as an AVN i find totally boring and story obsessed (the developer's previously abandoned title was A LOT better), anyway one of the love interests (Jenna), and my fave female is cucked by the mc/her own student. NTR, SHARING or whatever you want to call it is very badly done, and has been for some while. Maybe if developers actually start developing DECENT NTR avn's it may get more of a following ?.

2 New one's have popped up on Porngameshub lately, one is very very good, as it's different and some brain power has been used, whilst in the other; the Normal ( the wife is spreading her legs instantly), I let you decide which is which; MILA AI [V 1.2.1B] and the other MY HOTWIFE (V1.2).

Which is stereotypical and boring in it's approach and which is more realistic with potential ?.

 

[thevampirate]

Well, that doesn't add up to the copious amount of porn in existence with the premise "what wife does with pool boy/gardener/delivery guy etc., while the husband is at work..."

There is a flipside to your argument that in those videos the guy fucking the wife is the MC or stand in for the viewer and there's a lot of guys who wouldn't mind fucking some assholes wife. BEING a Cuck is like the biggest insult to most guys, so actually cucking someone is like insulting them and getting back at them and is a power fantasy. Asking why people dont like NTR is like asking why people don't like Vore, female domination and a bunch of other kinks; sure, it has its niche audience but most people don't want that content to show up especially if they aren't using a guide and it can popup every time you don't do the nice choice and fuck every character.

 

[TKdropemoff]

Man threads like this keep popping up..
Like man it's pretty obvious why people have a distaste/hate for ntr..

Like come on...

is it really that hard to understand? Not to be rude, but some good takes here and all.. But really?

Like i never see

"why people do not like scat."
"why people do not like necro"

etc..

Because we don't... It's not rocket science. Yes of course, those 2 things i mentioned do not cause a uproar like NTR.. But same principle. People have preferences, likes and dislikes.

For me, I am a self insert type of guy. Even if I didn't self insert, I still would not enjoy that type of content, nor watching it.

I don't like the feeling NTR gives off. I don't play novels to have a bad time, or feel like shit. I play to have fun, and enjoy what i am playing. NTR is a type of fetish, that is built off NEGATIVE, Humiliating, and DEMASCULATING emotions. I get no joy out of it period. Nor I enjoy watching it as a "spectator." I play novels as a ESCAPE from reality, and to play to MY fantasies...


And like some gentlemen said here.. Someone may, or may not experienced betrayal in real life and don't want to be reminded of that while playing a novel.. It can a touchy subject for them, which is why they avoid that said genre.

For me, i had family members who had to deal with being cheated on.. and I spent alot of nights comforting them.. so for me, it is also a touchy subject for me due to the pain I see it caused people I love.

Again I know novels are games, and not real life.. But that's where I come back to "ESCAPE FROM REALITY" again.


It makes me sick to my stomach to say the least. Yes I am a vanilla guy thin and through.. So I stay in my vanilla lane.

Also I am not here to offend anyone who do like NTR.. Just sharing my view and opinion on this matter.

 

[ZaneSalad]

The real answer is because the vast majority of the vocal 'ntr haters' are entitled chronically online insecure hypocrites who have either never been in a relationship (or at least a functioning one) with a real person or they've been cheated on before that they live their fantasy self-inserting/let the stories get too personal instead of watching the story unfold as a spectator and then throw tantrums when shit don't go their way. Bonus: They are also incapable of separating fiction from reality.

Yeah, I'm talking out of my ass here but that's the only psychological explanation I can think of, because a functioning person who has been in or is in a relationship would look at morally questionable fetish that they don't like and go 'yeah that shit doesn't turn me on' and they will move on... they won't bother anyone, they won't attack anyone, they won't even give the game the time of day, they'll just move on. I fucking love those 'ntr haters' they are the chill ones, the best ones. The vocal ones on the other hand...

They will go into threads (funny how they are always in threads with fetishes they claim to hate) give it a facepalm and let the whole damn world know that they hate this morally questionable fetish, that it is bad and you are a bad person for liking it. As if its impossible for some people to like a fetish in fiction but despise it irl.

Those people are insufferable. They turn threads of a potentially good game into a cesspool of whining, drama and fights with other members that happen to like those fetishes.

10+ years ago, no one really cared what morally questionable fetish you liked but now thanks to the fucking pandemic bringing in delusional people to anime, hentai and forums like this, you can't even enjoy non-vanilla stuff in peace with like minded people nor can you ignore them because if you try to ignore one, two more take their place!

 

[Fat Brit 56]

I don't like the feeling NTR gives off. I don't play novels to have a bad time, or feel like shit. I play to have fun, and enjoy what i am playing. NTR is a type of fetish, that is built off NEGATIVE, Humiliating, and DEMASCULATING emotions. I get no joy out of it period. Nor I enjoy watching it as a "spectator." I play novels as a ESCAPE from reality, and to play to MY fantasies...
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I totally agree MOST ntr you see is depressing, especially after you've seen exactly the same scenario play out time and time again regardless of how many avn's you play and how good the cg and animation is, Deliverance and a very few others e.g Exciting Games puts NTR into a much better light, where the MC isn't a dickless moron and where the sharing isn't humiliating, Cucking is similar, WHY does it always have to be the bloke that's cucked ?, and why does it have to be telegraphed at the start of the AVN ?. I can count the amount of really good ntr/sharing games on one hand, that's how badly developers are doing= sticking to the same boring negative stereotypes, which in turn kills any interest in the flavour, I'm not surprised people dislike it, to which I would say give Deliverance, Exciting Games and Mila AI a look (do pardon the crappy long winded txt segment). The best (imho) is deliverance and the fact that it's 2 years old clearly highlights how dire NTR developers have been since then.