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Nutluck

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I tired it and didn't get very far, no choices but i hit a part that was censored unless you had the patreon version. Pet peeve of mine when games do that.
 

godzofh

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Oct 17, 2017
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i dont recall running into this problem before with other games. windows defender flagged it as a trojan.
 

Dryparn

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If we can call Pollocks jizz paintings art, AI can also do art. Art isn't something human, only the appreciantion of art is human.
 
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Sartain

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This sort of screams ai cg. The necklace and lower corset jewelry are different in two images and i feel like an artist might not make that mistake. Also they openly talk about using ai generation on their patreon.
So the artist says it's AI cg, it's tagged with AI cg and it looks like AI cg... what's your point exactly?
 

puchuu

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We could always have a new tag for "AI Transformation" for 6 fingered ladies. I am sure there is a niche market for that too:HideThePain:

Does not look bad other than that. Good luck dev!
 

Roman65

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About 5 min of gameplay, 12 slides of wich 2 allready hidden behind paywall(really?!!!).Great beginning! I can hardly wait for the updates.
 

Joe Steel

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I'm just wondering if only the images are AI generated or the story/coding too?
Feels very much like an AI-written story. Absolutely just a collection of cliches.

Not that the "game (not game)" is bad. But anyone who patronizes this dev for doing something they could easily learn to do on their own deserves to have their money taken away.
 
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slavegal

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The problem is which data sets people are using to "train" the AI, and who is getting paid. Make no mistake: the "AI" is not creating any art, nor is it producing anything original: it is simply training off a data set and combining facets of it to produce a collage. What's ironic is that the early Soviet artists played around a lot with this, using... Capitalist data sets. Early Soviet cinema also used these techniques (famously, "Battleship Potemkin").



(for a later period)

If you buy a license to a genuine artist's portfolio then train the AI? Fine. Bad deal for the artist, but ok; you could possibly (in a better world) work a shared profit scheme where you split the revenues 70:30 or whatever as the AI churns out its copies. Spoiler: a LOT of the most highly paid "artists" farm out their work to students / "members of the collective", this has been true since the Renaissance - so all you're switching here is who is doing the grunt work.

You rip the entire of DeviantArt or Waifu without credit, permission or even a reach-around? Not so fine. (This is also the answer to the above question: "Why isn't AI produced pr0n nasty?" True Answer: because people aren't ripping Rule34 data sets to train on, they're ripping anime / deviantArt sites where the smut levels are much tamer. The moment AI can scan read all those hentai rip sites is the moment your eyeballs will start bleeding from (black and white) AI produced erotic horrors beyond your comprehension. All the kinks... in a single unholy amalgamation).

Why care?

Because the 21st century is all about artists getting royally fucked by Corporations (hi Disney!) and this is just another step towards eliminating them. The Soviets (before, you know, all the pogroms & purging the anarchists etc) actually did pay their artists (as much as "pay" has meaning in a Communist setup). They certainly got credit, social recognition and fame.

TL;DR

If you don't pay people to provide feeder for your "AI", all you're doing is being a fucking parasite. No, pirates aren't parasites by the way: pirates operate as a symbiotic commensalist relation in many cases ( ). (largely, not counting grey market Steam key sellers etc - actual real pirates, not those motivated purely by $$$)

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Or, in other words: "AI" = "Not fucking paying for artists' work". This is to do with just how shit the actual software is, tbh: not seen anyone setting one of their "AIs" into Honey and getting 10+ years of renders in a month yet, have we? Because they're too shit to (atm).
I get your point, but this pattern seems to have existed for many years. It is painful to think that FB and other social media would claim the copyright of every single piece of art that people upload. But I still feel it is inevitable that laws are way behind the development of technology, and industrial figures don't try to make any rules. Ideally, an organization should only use media that it pays for, however, Google and other technology giants wouldn't agree with this.

On the other hand, laws will NEVER restrain "seeing" arts, legislation can only define "using" art. Having their works seen by more people is also an innate motive for many artists. I agree with the other post, I also would browse a lot of art to get inspiration before I started my own works for some particular subjects, it would be weird to say I am infringing other artists' rights.

Of course, when it comes to AI, the process would be much faster and the range that it learns would be much larger. But at the end of the day, the nature of the process will be the same: An AI just "sees" many arts, extract what it needs and mix them together to make a different art, there would be very little ground to argue the juridical and ethical responsibility of "seeing" arts. After all, AI just reenacts a typical human behaviour: reflection --- this is the scary part, but it would be a totally different discourse.

Am I absolutely happy to see all this? Not really, but I think it's too difficult and early to make any conclusion so far. In the worst scenario, many of us have to change our thought and lifestyle, just like what happened in the industrial revolution and the IT era --- a nasty but inevitable future that doesn't care.
 
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slavegal

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Personally, I don't think AI images are bad, and they can improve some games here by leaps and bounds in terms of graphical quality.
But I also think that especially here too little is offered to already so penetratingly beg for support.
Admittedly, I can not program myself, but that here seems to me like the work of 45min. The engine is prefabricated, the images are drawn by others and only inserted. Maybe the most work is to find the right pictures or to order them.
Well, and the texts are not the best either.

I am active here for 6 years and just as long on Petraon a donor. In the 6 years I have also experienced that in just 10% of the games the promises kept. Yes, developers also do not live only on air and love, but in my opinion they must first go massively in advance. Then they can demand support and then improve or expand the game. Personally, I have unfortunately already fallen for one or the other money grave, so accordingly careful when I support whom. And here I am rather deterred, instead of staying on the ball and perhaps give something of my money that I have to work hard, without knowing what value I will receive in the end.
true, patrons aren't customers, they offer support for artists, not a purchase, it would be risky, and better only invest in promising teams instead of games.
 

Fapokso

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You could have easily named this "Booty Hunter" the name is right fucking there
 

Illustrivity

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Honestly, I don't mind the art and the fact it's just AI-generated. Evelyn looks pretty hot to me. It'd be cool to know what's used to make the art for the game though, and whatever prompts and seeds or whatever the fuck were used to create them, 'cause itd be neat to be able to replicate the characters ourself, but I have never bothered really looking into AI art, 'cause most of it is paywalled and a lot of them don't allow porn.
 
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