Ren'Py Delivery! [v0.75] [CaptainBl00d]

[DreamBig Games]

I can't understand this war from a DAZ user, you're a puppeteer of 3D models made by other users, or I'm wrong?

Yep ))) , That is EXACTLY what I am !

And I don't hate AI generations, I hate it when people call that shit ART and when they monetise something that they stole from other people.
No, we aren't the same.
You see, I PAID the people who made the assets I use. I also make my own assets, or heavily edit the ones I buy. But, the main difference between us, is that the people who made the assets used by me are getting a fair compensation for their work.
With your shit, they don't. AI companies stole their work, used it to train the algo, and then THEY monetise it, with ought any compensation to the artists. And same do you... no pay to the artists, but then you monetise the generations you made.

 

[Hooldrafolk]

Yep ))) , That is EXACTLY what I am !

And I don't hate AI generations, I hate it when people call that shit ART and when they monetise something that they stole from other people.
No, we aren't the same.
You see, I PAID the people who made the assets I use. I also make my own assets, or heavily edit the ones I buy. But, the main difference between us, is that the people who made the assets used by me are getting a fair compensation for their work.
With your shit, they don't. AI companies stole their work, used it to train the algo, and then THEY monetise it, with ought any compensation to the artists. And same do you... no pay to the artists, but then you monetise the generations you made.

About monetization you have right, this argument is in grey area for AI. Even if I don't think everyone who made games with DAZ really buy the assets like you, but it's just my opinion.

But it would be stupid for me not to exploit this tool for ethical reasons, trying new things is the basis of our passion and curiosity.

For example, games made in html with real porn, do those who make them then pay for the videos they drew on? I do not think so.

But I agree with you that the pool of images from which the AI draws is gray and unfair, at least for now.

 

[DreamBig Games]

But it would be stupid for me not to exploit this tool for ethical reasons, trying new things is the basis of our passion and curiosity.

For example, games made in html with real porn, do those who make them then pay for the videos they drew on? I do not think so.

No, it would not be stupid, same as it's not stupid to NOT steal from someone's house, just because others are doing it and the chance to get caught is small. It's the same thing.
Also, there is a difference between trying and curiosity and MONETISING it. Big fucking difference. My curiosity made me try different AI generators ( images, audio, voice, text, etc ). My ethics stopped me from integrating them in my games....

If/ When the AI generators will pay for their training data, then maybe I will integrate AI, if it will allow me to either increase the quality of my projects or allow me the freedom to create what I desire.

As for Real Porn games, yes, they are just as wrong, unless they actually bought the rights to use the material. And the same aplies for other Daz3d users/ dev's...

 

[Rhythm]

4. As for "less creative", let's see: Can you decide what you want to create, and recreate EXACTLY what you decided you want to create?
For example, create an image with a girl ( blonde hair, yellow eyes, large eyebrows with small eyelashes, large pimple between her upper lip and nose, small, asymmetric breasts, huge ass) doing a 69 on a fat, bald dude with a small penis.

During the 69, she cradles his balls with her left hand, while her right hand shows the Victory sign to the camera.
I'm not even going to ask you about lighting composition, Depth of field, or other photography techniques, as I know those are really beyond the control of a prompter when generating the image.

Can you do that? Because, we, Daz users, can. We can imagine something and then recreate it EXACTLY.

My feeling: ( from what I have seen in SD (( with control nets, hell even with the ComfyUI )) ) you can't, you are at the mercy of the AI, who just regurgitates what it was trained on, it has no imagination and it can't match your imagination...


And all of this on top of the morals regarding the stealing of real ART from actual artists, used then to make money...

I mean, I kind of can't be assed spending half an hour trying to create the image you want, but I ran a few workflows and got about 90% of what you asked for. If i spend any time in editing (e.g., I can add a pimple in in about 5 seconds in Photoshop), or refining my prompt more, I would absolutely be able to end up with exactly what I want. It just takes some effort. The quality of the results for time spent is just so much better than Daz or if I tried to draw myself though.

1. Art - something that expreses something. It has meaning beyond aesthetic.
2. You pointed them as "art"... the first ones you grabbed or not, they represented your definition of art, and that is what I pointed out, that they aren't art, just generations.
3. My images are not art . I never claimed they are and never will. They are just a means to add to the story I tell.

You can absolutely express yourself through AI art. That's like saying you can't express yourself through photography because you can't control the exact weather you want for the shot, or because your model's body isn't exactly as envisioned.

Either way, why can I not express myself through the AI art? I'm telling it what I want it to produce, if my feelings are the core part of what makes art art, then there should be absolutely no argument to it.

 

[DreamBig Games]

LOL... you got 90%, you say???? ))))
Sure, except: dude not bald, not fat..., eyebrows small, eyelashes large ( exact opposite (( the reason why I asked for that is because there aren't many examples of existing drawings like that, it's not a common or desired feature, hence why people don't actually draw it and AI can't do it )) ).

Her left hand is missing, not holding his balls, etc...

No dude, you didn;t get 90%....


But sure... you can definitely create with AI EXACTLY what you want to express...

 

[Rhythm]

LOL... you got 90%, you say???? ))))
Sure, except: dude not bald, not fat..., eyebrows small, eyelashes large ( exact opposite (( the reason why I asked for that is because there aren't many examples of existing drawings like that, it's not a common or desired feature, hence why people don't actually draw it and AI can't do it )) ).

Her left hand is missing, not holding his balls, etc...

No dude, you didn;t get 90%....


But sure... you can definitely create with AI EXACTLY what you want to express...

As I said mate, that took me all of about 10 minutes. If I wanted to workshop it more I could absolutely get it to be exactly what you wanted, but I just don't care enough to spend time doing it at your whim. As I said in my original post, getting AI images to do exactly what you want requires skills and knowledge, it isn't simply a matter of pressing generate and getting the exact image, it takes time and effort to wrangle the prompt or use systems like controlnet to get to where you want it. How about you spend 10 minutes in Daz and show me what kind of result you get and we can compare the two in terms of quality and what would be better in a game?

For your reference though, it's a lot harder to instruct the AI in multi-character images because it tends to combine the two subjects. You can get around it by doing advanced workflows and prompting, but I haven't got a template one to use right now and can't be assed making one. You have to do what's called regional prompting and using masks to isolate the subjects.

 

[DreamBig Games]

OK, so then, is the AI giving you the freedom needed?
Or Photoshop

Anyway, continue with your immoral theft...

 

[Jeemjemm]

Android, anyone?

 

[diablo8x]

Playing the game .... it wasnt bad ... the AI images used are pretty well done compared to others .... cant comment as much on the game ... there is some interest in what is actually going on with certain implications .... but its just to little to make a full opinion

 

[CaptainBl00d]

Hey, everyone!
I just dropped the new 0.75 version on my Boosty!
Will release it here in two weeks, probably.

 

[toccata]

I especially like the pictures in this game.
they are very, very beautiful !!!

 

[kaintheblood]

I like the game especially the drawing stills. I hope this continues soon and there is an update

 

[nn2017]

What program do you use to develop the characters?

 

[buktccbfc71]

I don't want to offend the developer. But all the models look very young for the "MILF" tag. Children's faces with adult bodies. No offense. But fans of "MILF" will understand and support me.

 

[Asdf Fdsa]

Very easily the best AI art of any game on this site at the moment.

 

[Machete]

Reminds me of Omniman from Invincible.

 

[MrRick]

Android, anyone?

Waiting myself

 

[davd]

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I especially like the pictures in this game.
they are very, very beautiful !!!

That face totally reminds me of Delphine Belle

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Promising.

 

[allanl9020142]

I'm probably wrong but this might be ... the first ever AI CG game to have an aggregate rating of above a 2 on this site.

(Seems like a recommendation to me, guys.)