EdenGenesis

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I don't get why almost all the content in this past story are involving those two guys at the inn. Wasn't the main purpose of this game to expand upon Kaede and Down the mountain's relationship ? The whole thing felt very cheap and uninspired.

Many thanks for the translation.
Is this some kind of alternative ending to "Kaede Dangerous change" or the same ending but with more details about how Kaede was corrupted?

If she's going to marry Shimomiya, they didn't need to make a new game, they could have added the content to Kaede Dangerous change, but I guess the creator needed the money.

This sequel is all about Kaede's bad decisions, isn't it?
 

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However, I'd be inclined to say that it was Shimomiya who destroyed Naoto's life in the first place, and that it was partly for this reason that he had an erectile dysfunction and forced his beloved to sleep with other men, as he had developed a cuckolding fetish.
mmm..... i dont remember how much shimomiya influenced in naoto mental problem, this was part of the first game right when the story is about naoto and his first wife..... oof that woman also had it really rough.... why did she became a prostitue? or a porn actress? because if i remember correctly she fully embraced the sin of lust and the pleasures of sex.... also because of her (IMO) awfull and disgusting "cameo" on the dlc... i wont say more since i could spoil a bit of the dlc story....



it was already too late as his body succumbed to sex with Shimomiya, also nicknamed the sex god on the forum.
oh wow... i didnt knew or remember he was that of a sex master..... who he was exactly? why he have ties with the porn industry? because i didnt fully understand his excuse to appear on the shitty town where kaede and naoto lived.....and its sad because Naoto and Kaede at some point promise to just stop with the cuckolding fetish and Naoto was really trying... and then this fat fuck appear.



I would have loved to remake the game with a corruption level and several possible endings, including a positive one for Kaede where she finds a better man than Naoto and Shimomiya.
This exactly!... i mean... i think this would be the most realistic outcome.... or Naoto killing shimomiya. In my mind Kaede just leaving both of those assholes and finding someone better in the city is cameo or just living her life away from that Sodoma/Gomorra place..... you have to play it, i just remember the town goes to shit... another fact why i didnt like the dlc



I wonder if she loves Shimomiya or just the sex with him, because Kaede has never liked Shimomiya's character, as she explained to Naoto before she left him and went to live with Shimomiya in the game "Kaede Dangerous change".
mmmmm.... i think theres something about that at the end of the dlc... i didnt pay much attention but kaede.... change and its sad because she looked... happy with the fatty



Only then will she remember that she dumped Naoto and regret it.
oof... i really hope not. if that was the case i really wish the she just realize what they both did to her and she just dissapear from their lives and just go away find someone else.............. maybe american and then she marry him and move to the us where she live with him and then she start to work a pub where her boss is a perverted fuck and voila Fleeting Iris is born.... is funny how Kaede and Ayame ressemble a little physically



As I said, I've plucked up the courage to play the beginning of the game, but I don't dare go too far because I'm afraid I'll be disappointed or even sad after seeing how she's been fooled by Shimomiya, who doesn't deserve her in my opinion. Even if it's a game, I know someone who looks like Kaede, and every time I see her, I can't help thinking of her resemblance to Kaede, and I don't like being the Shimomiya of her story, it makes me feel guilty.
ooooh so some irl ntr... well just be carefull mate, NTR irl is way more dangerous.
And well... if you play it you are in for a ride since it seems you really are into this novel/game... Kaede did get extremely manipulated in this one by many people actually.... of course shinmomiya is behind everything which really annoys me... why did he go all this way just to get kaede like.... dude... get over it , he must really hate naoto or really really crave for Kaede because he did do some crazy shit in this one.



I know NTR Online, it's said to be one of the best NTR game. But I really didn't like this one. I prefer other NTR games that have less hentai logic. The Animu Circle visual novel have way better NTR scenarios with multiples choices and excellent CGs.
No issues man is all fine. Interestng... i actually find NTR online cucking and corruption process more realistic than Kaede's story.
Animu Circle... never heard of it i'll check it out later today
 
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I've just finished reading Sorakami's blogs from DLSite Ci-En, and he explicitly stated in Japanese that this project would be intense, perhaps even heart-wrenching, employing a theme akin to the circle.

They mentioned the necessity of omitting the shota content and emphasizing the dramatic elements of the project.
It's evident to me that the game is a poignant example of NTR (Netorare). Given my fondness for Kaede's character, I anticipate finding it emotionally challenging to engage with the game.

Nevertheless, I intend to acknowledge it as one of the finest NTR experiences on Eroge Paradise, a recognition I've shared on Reddit.

I'm keen on delving into the realm of Eroge games, whether they involve NTR themes or not, and compiling a comprehensive top 10 list across various genres like visual novels, simulations, RPGs, and more.

If you're intrigued by this endeavor, I welcome you to join me. Additionally, I oversee a Steam curator group where we share games received for testing purposes, often negotiated directly with creators since I'm not yet established enough to procure games directly from them.
 

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mmm..... i dont remember how much shimomiya influenced in naoto mental problem, this was part of the first game right when the story is about naoto and his first wife..... oof that woman also had it really rough.... why did she became a prostitue? or a porn actress? because if i remember correctly she fully embraced the sin of lust and the pleasures of sex....
Concerning the first game, I haven't played it, but I've asked players to explain the story of each episode and I've also read comments and reviews via DLsite.

So I know that in the first game, Naoto has his wife stolen from him while he's in a coma, and Kaede goes to save him.
She beats Shimomiya to death and then Naoto divorces his wife Aya, who is Kaede's sister, and Kaede, who was still in love with Naoto, takes care of him and the story has a happy ending for the couple.

However, the author has decided to upset this harmony by creating a fetish for Naoto that begins in the second game featured in this thread.

According to my information, Aya, the ex-wife, became a porn actress after her divorce.


oh wow... i didnt knew or remember he was that of a sex master..... who he was exactly? why he have ties with the porn industry? because i didnt fully understand his excuse to appear on the shitty town where kaede and naoto lived.....and its sad because Naoto and Kaede at some point promise to just stop with the cuckolding fetish and Naoto was really trying... and then this fat fuck appear.
Shimomiya is the village's enfant terrible. He was left for dead after Kaede beat him up in the first game, and has now returned to the village to take advantage of Naoto's fetishism to take Kaede for himself (revenge on her?) At first she refuses outright, but she's forced a little by Naoto, who thinks that if she sleeps with him, her erectile problem will soon be cured and they'll be able to make love normally again...

However, Shimomiya will do everything in his power to make Kaede believe that he's actually a nice guy, going so far as to simulate an attack on Kaede and come to her rescue to make her heart skip a beat and make her believe that he's not as bad as he seems.

This will trigger NTR sessions as they meet in secret without Naoto's knowledge.


This exactly!... i mean... i think this would be the most realistic outcome.... or Naoto killing shimomiya. In my mind Kaede just leaving both of those assholes and finding someone better in the city is cameo or just living her life away from that Sodoma/Gomorra place..... you have to play it, i just remember the town goes to shit... another fact why i didnt like the dlc
Naoto and Kaede are both victims in my opinion.

Naoto was traumatized by his experience with his wife Aya (Kaede's sister) when he was in a coma and she was cheating on him with Shimomiya.

I don't know the circumstances of the adultery, but I think Shimomiya took advantage of Naoto's coma to steal his wife.

Kaede, who had always been in love with Naoto, decided to take care of the problem and beat Shimomiya to death. After divorcing Aya, Kaede decided to couple up with Naoto and live with him.

Since Naoto had been traumatized by the events of the first episode, he was unable to get a hard-on and therefore to have sex with Kaede, who was very patient with him.

When Naoto discovered his fetish for being cuckolded, Kaede initially refused to comply with his demands, but gradually began to sleep with certain people in the village.

But they had the misfortune to cross paths with Shimomiya just as Naoto was beginning to regain control of his erection.

I personally find it puzzling that Kaede, who has always been in love with Naoto, would favor Shimomiya simply because he provides her with immense sexual pleasure. It seems illogical to me that she would want to leave Naoto, given her long-standing affection for him.

In "Kaede Dangerous Change," when she abruptly leaves Naoto to live with Shimomiya and marry him, she appears to no longer care much about Naoto. She asks him to take care of himself, eat well, and bids him farewell. In the sequence viewing room, I noticed that Shimomiya and Kaede thank Naoto for bringing them together, and it seems that Kaede even becomes pregnant.

However, in the recently released sequel, the story takes a different turn when Naoto catches Kaede and Shimomiya at the hotel. He confronts Kaede after she finishes being intimate with Shimomiya, and she decides to leave him because she knows she will be corrupted if she continues the affair.

However, it's evident to me that things won't end there, as this is an NTR game, and if the story follows the same hentai logic as the previous game, then it's inevitable that Kaede has gone too far and can no longer be satisfied with Naoto's intimacy. She discovers a part of herself that enjoys being debauched by a manipulative and selfish Shimomiya, and it's this immorality that makes her feel good.

Nevertheless, I believe that this kind of relationship isn't built to last because Shimomiya will eventually neglect Kaede for younger women (as he is skilled in bed) or grow tired of her. He seems to target only married women, especially Naoto's partners. If Naoto leaves the village, during periods of abstinence, Kaede might think of him and regret leaving him.

It would be poignant if she prevents him from leaving the village when he sets off defeated after catching her with Shimomiya again. If I were Naoto, I would also want to get rid of Shimomiya and would try to reason with Kaede by apologizing for what I put her through (but initially, I would never have done that to Kaede or anyone else whose fetishism I struggle to understand).



mmmmm.... i think theres something about that at the end of the dlc... i didnt pay much attention but kaede.... change and its sad because she looked... happy with the fatty

So, you've finished the game, and Kaede is happy with Shimomiya?

What happens to Naoto? If I were him, I'd leave the place for good and get back at Shimomiya by exposing all his manipulations.

I have a feeling that Aya is back in the game. Will she reconcile with Naoto, or is she just there to make Kaede jealous and reunite with Shimomiya?

I'd be really disappointed if the ending abruptly concludes without offering an alternative to the conclusion of "Kaede Dangerous Change."

The thought of her ending up with the "Fatty" she fought against in the first game makes me sick. I believe she's more intriguing and deserves better than that... But the game creator warned that the story would be tragic and "heart-stopping" (to use the same term) in his messages about the new game on his blog DLsite Ci-En.

This suggests that Naoto is feeling down... It's worth noting that this Naoto is nothing like the one in the previous game, as he has regained the use of his penis and is now intimate with Kaede. However, she might still be unsatisfied, and it seems like Naoto makes the mistake of asking her to compare him to Shimomiya... which is something he definitely shouldn't do!


oof... i really hope not. if that was the case i really wish the she just realize what they both did to her and she just dissapear from their lives and just go away find someone else.............. maybe american and then she marry him and move to the us where she live with him and then she start to work a pub where her boss is a perverted fuck and voila Fleeting Iris is born.... is funny how Kaede and Ayame ressemble a little physically
Fleeting Iris is one of my favorite NTR Game beacuse of the multi choices. I believe Kaede Dangerous change would have been awesome if there was several different endings. Also I was expecting something different with this game,not to mention that Naoto is different in his behavior. If I were him, I would have done everything to win Kaede's back but she's going to marry Shimomiya and she probably say farewell to Naoto and explain she doesn't love him anymore, and that's the heart breaking part the creator was mentioning in his Blog.


At the beginning of the game, the MC's and Kaede's entire journey is presented through a recap of past events, adding a dramatic touch to the story and inevitably eliciting sympathy for Naoto, knowing he is about to lose Kaede.
If I were in his place, I would ask to move away from that place.

Kaede leaving Naoto for Shimomiya not only signifies her corruption but also indicates a loss of logic and discernment. After all, Shimomiya is the source of Naoto's misfortunes. She is aware of the suffering she has caused him, including the incident where she almost killed him. She should have been more cautious. In real life, you don't sleep with your enemy... It's unrealistic, and hentai logic is annoying because it disregards the fact that Kaede was deeply in love with Naoto, even when he was married to her sister, Aya.

It's impossible for Kaede to be herself if she lets Naoto go without feeling regret or sadness because sexual pleasure is fleeting. If she marries just for that, she will be replaced by another girl as she ages because I doubt Shimomiya will remain satisfied with her in the long run. Especially if Naoto loses interest in her because she left him, he will seek out another married woman to fulfill his fantasies.



ooooh so some irl ntr... well just be carefull mate, NTR irl is way more dangerous.
And well... if you play it you are in for a ride since it seems you really are into this novel/game... Kaede did get extremely manipulated in this one by many people actually.... of course shinmomiya is behind everything which really annoys me... why did he go all this way just to get kaede like.... dude... get over it , he must really hate naoto or really really crave for Kaede because he did do some crazy shit in this one.
Well knowing that make me sad and angry... I don't think I'll be able to enjoy this game normally. I hate injustice. I might just enjoy the CG and try to think it's Naoto and not Shimomiya she is with.

As I mentionned above, I believe if Naoto doesn't care about Kaede anymore, he'll abandon her once he is fed up with her. Also you have to remember Kaede beated him to death in the first game, so he want to get his revenge on her too.

No issues man is all fine. Interestng... i actually find NTR online cucking and corruption process more realistic than Kaede's story.
Animu Circle... never heard of it i'll check it out later today
Well, NTR Online may be more realistic, but here again the GF is crazy in love with her BF and childhood friend, there is no way she'll abandon him for an ugly nerd. But it follows hentai logic so you can't expect better from such game. All we need is enjoy the game CG and forget about the shitty plot lol
 

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Honestly, i am a bit disappointed, the side story felt rushed. It was going at a good pace until the village revitalization started.

Her fall for Shimoyama felt way too fast, i get that she was at her limit, but still...the mood was not right, her talk with Naoto after the fall was also unsatisfying.

I did like how they changed the NTR aspect of the marriage. Before, Naoto was the one who wanted Kaede to marry Shimoyama, but now we know that he only did that because Kaede would end up leaving him for Shimoyama anyway.

I liked the choices SORAUE made in this game, it really feels like a waste to me, because if the game had more content and was more slow placed when the NTR started, it would be a masterpiece to me.

It would be great if he just remade the whole ending of the main kaede game since he already made some changes. It would be amazing to see the NTR marriage scenes of the final part of the game with a Kaede that actually has feelings for Shimoyama and even smiles for him.

With all that said, im not mad at SORAUE, i feel like he failed to deliver his masterpiece but it is still a great game, and the series as a whole, Naoto story of losing Aya and Kaede to Shimoyama, is one of the best NTR stories to me.

This also is motivating me to try writing for the first time and make my own version of Kaede's fall. I love how Tachibana-san gained a lot of attention and spin-offs from fans, and i think this game has potential for something similar.
 

NuarisRia

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So, you've finished the game, and Kaede is happy with Shimomiya?

What happens to Naoto? If I were him, I'd leave the place for good and get back at Shimomiya by exposing all his manipulations.

I have a feeling that Aya is back in the game. Will she reconcile with Naoto, or is she just there to make Kaede jealous and reunite with Shimomiya?

Sorry i wasnt very clear with my comment. i didnt finish the game i saw the recollection room with the code and i saw the last CG event... and its Kaede with Shimomiya on the beach, kaede looks happy to be with shimomiya.. she even untie her hair... (i must be clear with this i didnt read anything after a certain point in the game, i went to the recollection room and just tunnel trough everything to see the scnenes)... but it looks to me that shimimiya was getting excited on the idea of kaede untying her hair for some reason...i think its because she kind of resembles Aya her sister and of course to simbolice that she is "free from anything that ties him to naoto or sexual oppresion"... Kaede smiles and they fuck on the beach while kaede wear that cute swimsuit... hence the main image of the dlc game. Also during this event Naoto is just creeping like a complete idiot behind some plants....ughhh... its pisses me off to remember that.

What happends to naoto after that i dont know, i dont know if there were more game after the last cg event.
Reading the comment from the last person it seems that Kaede actually fell in love with shimomiya and she actually wanted to marry him whitch i find absolutely disturbing... i mean who in their right mind would marry that prick who destroyed the life of the one you loved and also from your sister.

Oh boy... yeah. she comes back. And is very interesting that you mention this.... "or is she just there to make Kaede jealous and reunite with Shimomiya?" because i actually remember she saying something specifically about that when she is talking with shimomiya ... i think she is telling shimo that she "thrives on destroying others lives" refering to destroying Naoto or Kaede, i really hope im note fcking this up but im almost 100% sure she says this, and seeing what she does some scenes after this yeah i believe she actually find pleasure on destroying others... this is one of the things i dislike a lot from this game.... like wtf.. when or why does aya became an evil minion of shimomiya wtf??? like dude... chill... this looked to me like a total deus ex machina moment from the dev. He needed something or someone to use to make shimo succed on corrupting the town like THE ENTIRE TOWN. But yeah she is there to make kaede world completely fall apart theres even a scene with both of them.

Also is super fcked up because i remember that the dev said that there were gonna be shota events with Kaede?!?!?.... no no no that would have been way to fking much or maybe with Aya.....?? still...way to much... and is interesting becuase.. i remember when i was playing the game i enter a house and there were 3 kids playing inside the house....oof.
 

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Sorry i wasnt very clear with my comment. i didnt finish the game i saw the recollection room with the code and i saw the last CG event... and its Kaede with Shimomiya on the beach, kaede looks happy to be with shimomiya.. she even untie her hair... (i must be clear with this i didnt read anything after a certain point in the game, i went to the recollection room and just tunnel trough everything to see the scnenes)... but it looks to me that shimimiya was getting excited on the idea of kaede untying her hair for some reason...i think its because she kind of resembles Aya her sister and of course to simbolice that she is "free from anything that ties him to naoto or sexual oppresion"... Kaede smiles and they fuck on the beach while kaede wear that cute swimsuit... hence the main image of the dlc game. Also during this event Naoto is just creeping like a complete idiot behind some plants....ughhh... its pisses me off to remember that.

What happends to naoto after that i dont know, i dont know if there were more game after the last cg event.
Reading the comment from the last person it seems that Kaede actually fell in love with shimomiya and she actually wanted to marry him whitch i find absolutely disturbing... i mean who in their right mind would marry that prick who destroyed the life of the one you loved and also from your sister.

Oh boy... yeah. she comes back. And is very interesting that you mention this.... "or is she just there to make Kaede jealous and reunite with Shimomiya?" because i actually remember she saying something specifically about that when she is talking with shimomiya ... i think she is telling shimo that she "thrives on destroying others lives" refering to destroying Naoto or Kaede, i really hope im note fcking this up but im almost 100% sure she says this, and seeing what she does some scenes after this yeah i believe she actually find pleasure on destroying others... this is one of the things i dislike a lot from this game.... like wtf.. when or why does aya became an evil minion of shimomiya wtf??? like dude... chill... this looked to me like a total deus ex machina moment from the dev. He needed something or someone to use to make shimo succed on corrupting the town like THE ENTIRE TOWN. But yeah she is there to make kaede world completely fall apart theres even a scene with both of them.

Also is super fcked up because i remember that the dev said that there were gonna be shota events with Kaede?!?!?.... no no no that would have been way to fking much or maybe with Aya.....?? still...way to much... and is interesting becuase.. i remember when i was playing the game i enter a house and there were 3 kids playing inside the house....oof.
You could say I was right not to play the Game, but even without playing it, I've been thinking about it ever since last night and wondering what Shimomiya did to corrupt Kaede to such an extent.

Obviously Naoto didn't do anything to stop it, but it's possible that Shimomiya intentionally drew Naoto's attention elsewhere.

I would have thought that Aya would have been there to divert Naoto's attention and make Kaede jealous, which would give Kaede a reason to sleep with Shimomiya again, because as it is, knowing that Naoto no longer has his fetish for seeing Kaede screwed by someone else, I wonder what caused all these changes.

It's obvious to me that the author wanted to move fast and deliver a dramatic work, as the story is told through Naoto's memories.

I wonder how Naoto is going to live after being robbed of the second woman he loves, by the same man. It's obvious that we're entering the stereotypical NTR scenario here: a helpless MC facing a manipulative, sexually gifted man, a lovely, pretty woman who was initially madly in love with the MC but who, following some dubious hentai logic, falls completely for Shimomiya, who is certainly good at sex, but who is manipulative, mean and ugly. He's going to make himself look like a victim, and I can't stand that at all. I would have liked Kaede to realize this, but if she falls stupidly in love with Shimomiya, part of me wants her to realize later that she made a mistake and regret what she did by seeing Naoto with another woman.

I would have loved to do a fan-fiction sequel in which Shimomiya, after having fun with Kaede, gets bored with her and takes an interest in Naoto's new wife. Kaede realizes that she has been duped by Shimomiya, but feels remorse and guilt, and now thinks she doesn't deserve Naoto.

At the same time, she runs into Naoto from time to time in the village and during their exchanges, she remembers how good she was with him and remembers that everything changed when she agreed to satisfy Naoto's fetish for village people and especially Shimomiya later.

Shimomiya was the cause of all her troubles, and she discovers that he had planned everything, even the mock attack in which she thought he had saved her. This made her extremely angry, and she decided to take revenge on Shimomiya.

For his part, Naoto still has feelings for Kaede, but he hasn't forgiven her for dumping him for Shimomiya. Now that he's with his new wife, he can't see the danger Shimomiya poses to his new relationship. He's already suffered several times, but he thinks that Shimomiya, now with Kaede, won't bother him anymore, especially as he won't make the same mistake as before. He is now cured of his erectile problem and has no intention of being a loser.

Wishing to have some help in writing the end of the scenario, I asked ChatGPT for help and it suggested this:

"Kaede, consumed by remorse and anger towards Shimomiya, decides to devise a plan to get revenge on him. She knows she was manipulated and used as a pawn in his Machiavellian game. She refuses to let Shimomiya destroy someone else's life.

Meanwhile, Naoto, convinced that Shimomiya no longer poses a threat to him and his new wife, focuses on his relationship and rebuilding his self-confidence. He refuses to be dragged back into the torments of the past.

However, Kaede's plans and Shimomiya's intentions intersect once again when Shimomiya begins to take an interest in Naoto's new wife. Kaede, determined to put an end to Shimomiya's manipulations, decides to reveal the truth to Naoto's new wife. She hopes to open her eyes to Shimomiya's true nature and prevent her from suffering the same fate as her.

Naoto, faced once again with Shimomiya's intrusion into his life, finally realizes the gravity of the situation. He realizes that Shimomiya is willing to do anything to get what he wants and that he must act to protect his new family.

In a final showdown, Kaede confronts Shimomiya and exposes all his lies and manipulations. Naoto arrives just in time to help Kaede break free from Shimomiya's grip once and for all. Together, they put an end to his destructive influence.

Ultimately, Naoto and Kaede realize that they have both been hurt by Shimomiya, but they have also found the strength to rise above it and support each other. They decide to leave the past behind and focus on their future together, building a relationship based on trust and mutual respect. And as Shimomiya fades into the darkness, defeated, Naoto and Kaede stand hand in hand, ready to face whatever challenges come their way, united and stronger than ever."
 
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The creator mentioned it in CI-EN that the after game wouldn’t make much sense to some people as a warning before buying and telling people to not hope much, this was only made as to make clear how keade agreed to live with shimomiya
 

EdenGenesis

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The creator mentioned it in CI-EN that the after game wouldn’t make much sense to some people as a warning before buying and telling people to not hope much, this was only made as to make clear how keade agreed to live with shimomiya

And what about Naoto? Do we know what he does? I'd leave the place if I was him.

Kaede obviously no longer loves Naoto, but she talks to him more than she did in the previous game so I suppose she told him she doesn't love him anymore and she wants to live with Shimomiya?

It's obvious she's changed because of Shimomiya's manipulations.

In any case, the creator made it clear that the story would be dramatic and heartbreaking, but I didn't expect to be so deeply moved. Maybe it's because I love Kaede's character, who shares the same name as my site's mascot lol, and I hate Shimomiya for all that he represents.

But I can't help but think that sooner or later, everyone, including Kaede, will realize who he truly is and that she's been deceived from the beginning.

Shimomiya is just waiting for a new, attractive girl to appear, and he'll do everything in his power to dump Kaede, who will age and won't be as appealing as before. It's not love but lust, and I suspect he enjoys pursuing married or coupled women, hence his desire to exact revenge on Kaede for nearly beating him to death at the end of the first game lol.

How ironic to see Shimomiya end up in this situation lol, blaming everything on Aya, Kaede's sister and Naoto's first wife lol. How can Kaede fall for it altought she knew how bad Shimomiya was in the first game... it's not realistic at all.

I'm going to work on my alternate scenario to vent my frustration on Shimomiya, who's going to suffer like never before!
 

LJ-Yusei

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And what about Naoto? Do we know what he does? I'd leave the place if I was him.

Kaede obviously no longer loves Naoto, but she talks to him more than she did in the previous game so I suppose she told him she doesn't love him anymore and she wants to live with Shimomiya?

It's obvious she's changed because of Shimomiya's manipulations.

In any case, the creator made it clear that the story would be dramatic and heartbreaking, but I didn't expect to be so deeply moved. Maybe it's because I love Kaede's character, who shares the same name as my site's mascot lol, and I hate Shimomiya for all that he represents.

But I can't help but think that sooner or later, everyone, including Kaede, will realize who he truly is and that she's been deceived from the beginning.

Shimomiya is just waiting for a new, attractive girl to appear, and he'll do everything in his power to dump Kaede, who will age and won't be as appealing as before. It's not love but lust, and I suspect he enjoys pursuing married or coupled women, hence his desire to exact revenge on Kaede for nearly beating him to death at the end of the first game lol.

How ironic to see Shimomiya end up in this situation lol, blaming everything on Aya, Kaede's sister and Naoto's first wife lol. How can Kaede fall for it altought she knew how bad Shimomiya was in the first game... it's not realistic at all.

I'm going to work on my alternate scenario to vent my frustration on Shimomiya, who's going to suffer like never before!
Dude, youre totally lost.

There was no manipulation or lies, Kaede was not deceived by Shimoyama. He never pretended to be anything different than what he is on any of the games.

Shimoyama is a scumbag, who is also a sex god. Kaede ended up falling for her lust because of Naoto's cuckold fetish.
 

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Seeing people overanalyze this stuff is funny. The first two games were fine, Kaede in particular for it's depiction of the tragedy of a man who destroys his happiness because of a fetish. But this third game is absolute shit. There is nothing to analyze, it's just stupid bullshit. Kaede falls because she saw the dick of some random dude at the inn? There is no way that anyone can take this stuff seriously.
 

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EdenGenesis

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Jun 6, 2019
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Dude, youre totally lost.

There was no manipulation or lies, Kaede was not deceived by Shimoyama. He never pretended to be anything different than what he is on any of the games.

Shimoyama is a scumbag, who is also a sex god. Kaede ended up falling for her lust because of Naoto's cuckold fetish.

You must be referring to the game "Kaede Dangerous Change."

However, while it's true that Kaede was corrupted due to Naoto's fetish, the root cause of their unhappiness lies in the first game, with Shimomiya being the main culprit. He traumatized Naoto by stealing his wife, contributing to his erectile dysfunction, and cultivating a cuckoldry fetish.

Initially, Kaede disliked Shimomiya, but her feelings change when he orchestrates an attack and saves her, feigning a change of heart. This leads to secret meetings between Kaede and Shimomiya, away from Naoto's knowledge, ultimately resulting in her complete corruption.

In the new game, during a recap of past events, Naoto unexpectedly finds Kaede with Shimomiya at the inn. Kaede apologizes and chooses to return to Naoto. Surprisingly, Naoto no longer exhibits his previous fetish, and their intimacy resumes immediately.

It seems Naoto wants to keep Kaede away from Shimomiya, indicating a change in dynamics. The creator's note about the tragic and heartbreaking nature of the game becomes apparent as Shimomiya and the villagers conspire to deceive Kaede, leading her into a dark path despite her apparent happiness.

Naoto appears powerless to halt Kaede's descent into despair, and her future appears bleak due to Shimomiya's manipulation and the villagers' complicity.
 

LJ-Yusei

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Apr 30, 2020
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No, thats not what happened, at all.

He never orchastrated an attack, Kaede never met Shimoyama in secret on the main game, she lied about how far they went in their sexual activities, but thats it.

Youre also wrong about the new game.Naoto was not over his fetish, Kaede is the one who decided to not listen to Naoto' requests anymore, because she knew she would fall for her lust if she did.

After Shimoyama came to the village, he himself declared that his goal was to steal Kaede, there was no lies or deceipt in his approach.

And Naoto did not try to stop Kaede from meeting Shimoyama in the new game, he agreed to let they have sex again just before the Inn plotline started.

My impression in that you just played the game without a translation and made your own conclusions about it.
 

EdenGenesis

Member
Jun 6, 2019
255
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Seeing people overanalyze this stuff is funny. The first two games were fine, Kaede in particular for it's depiction of the tragedy of a man who destroys his happiness because of a fetish. But this third game is absolute shit. There is nothing to analyze, it's just stupid bullshit. Kaede falls because she saw the dick of some random dude at the inn? There is no way that anyone can take this stuff seriously.

To each his own, it's true that I don't like the turn of events in the second game and the complementary episode.

The original game would have sufficed on its own, and the second game would have been fabulous if it contained multiple choices and a positive true ending for the MC.

I don't like negative endings when there's no positive one, and seeing Kaede corrupted by Shimomiya makes me want to puke my guts out.

I like Kaede's character because she reminds me of a Japanese friend I know and she's named after my Discord server's mascot.

I love analyzing games and proposing alternative endings, and I'm even going to create a Reddit community on the theme of creating alternative choices to the Eroge stories that touched us the most and that we'd have liked to experience in another way, be it worse or better!

If anyone's interested, PM me, I've already got another Discord, Steam and Reddit community on the theme of Eroge that I recommend or have tested.
 

EdenGenesis

Member
Jun 6, 2019
255
109
dam man the story its so awesome even Scar of summer can't win this for story element, I hope some artist will mention this amazing project and remake all of it in to one game
Scar of Summer is better because it contains several route and endings (including a Pure love ending).
Of course, if you like tragedy and heartbreak as much as the author does, then this is the game for you.

Although I don't like the frustration, it's these kinds of games that mark me the most, and I'm afraid of being corrupted by these feelings myself.

Don't get me wrong, I know it's fiction, but I still like Kaede, and it hurts me that she's ending the story with Shimomiya, even though I'm convinced that the relationship won't last and that Shimomiya will get bored of her, since he doesn't love her and is only interested in her body... I also assume that Shimomiya only likes women who are in a relationship or married.
 

EdenGenesis

Member
Jun 6, 2019
255
109
No, thats not what happened, at all.

He never orchastrated an attack, Kaede never met Shimoyama in secret on the main game, she lied about how far they went in their sexual activities, but thats it.

Youre also wrong about the new game.Naoto was not over his fetish, Kaede is the one who decided to not listen to Naoto' requests anymore, because she knew she would fall for her lust if she did.

After Shimoyama came to the village, he himself declared that his goal was to steal Kaede, there was no lies or deceipt in his approach.

And Naoto did not try to stop Kaede from meeting Shimoyama in the new game, he agreed to let they have sex again just before the Inn plotline started.

My impression in that you just played the game without a translation and made your own conclusions about it.


You're right, I haven't played the game in its entirety. Although I can speak Japanese, I've only tested the MTL version of the game since it's the only version shared here.

Also, I was afraid of being traumatized by the events of the game because the author clearly stated that the stories of the last two games would be dramatic, especially the new sequel that was recently shared, which some call a DLC due to its limited content.

I started playing the game hoping to find the recollection room and saw the opening scene where all the events of the story are recalled, from the story of the first game to the story of "Kaede Dangerous Change."

From my perspective, Kaede and Shimomiya had been meeting secretly, and Naoto sees them together and can't help but confront Kaede.

She decides to end the relationship with Shimomiya, and that same evening, Naoto and she make love. I'm not sure about the content of their conversation, but it seems to me that Naoto tries to compare who was better between him and Shimomiya in Kaede's eyes.

Then, I stopped playing when Naoto wakes up and sees Kaede in the kitchen, telling him that the Village Chief wants to see them.

I didn't play further because I felt that I wouldn't enjoy the rest of the story due to other members' claims that Kaede would end up with Shimomiya.

It seemed to me that in this game, Naoto was cured of his erectile problem and therefore no longer had a fetish for seeing Kaede with other men.

I never thought that Naoto would again push Kaede to sleep with other men. On the contrary, I believed that to change, Kaede and Naoto had decided to stop voluntary cuckoldry (Netori), but that Shimomiya had convinced the villagers to help him corrupt Kaede while he distracted Naoto.

This would have made the story even more tragic because otherwise, I don't see what's tragic if Kaede is consenting and Naoto can satisfy his fetish even if he loses the one he loved.

I reread the notes shared with me by those who have played the game, and it seems that I did read correctly that Kaede was assaulted and that Shimomiya would have taken the blows for her, and then we learn that it was actually orchestrated by Shimomiya in order to have a chance with Kaede.

Moreover, rereading the comments, I did read that Kaede consented to see Shimomya secretly, outside of sessions with Naoto, and that's when it turned into pure and hard NTR, not a Netori game where you consent to share your beloved with another man.
 
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