Full Consent

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I'm glad you decided not to abandon the project. I like the idea of changing scenes from violence to corruption. The only thing that scares me a little is the transition to 3D art. the gifs you're using right now are super hot. Are you sure that you can maintain the quantity and quality of visual content in the game?
 
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Thackerweil

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I'm glad you decided not to abandon the project. I like the idea of changing scenes from violence to corruption. The only thing that scares me a little is the transition to 3D art. the gifs you're using right now are super hot. Are you sure that you can maintain the quantity and quality of visual content in the game?
I'm confident that with 3D art, my game will only get better. After all, I won't have to adjust the storyline to fit GIFs anymore (as finding suitable GIFs is actually quite problematic), and I can fully focus on the narrative. Of course, I'll also strive to make the 3D renders themselves a more or less visually appealing, I guess you shouldn't worry about that.
 

CyMpaK

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I too am a little worried about the decision to go 3D. Creating scenes in any editor is just as time consuming (and sometimes more) than finding the right gif. But maybe it's the html game fan with real porn gifs talking in me.
Anyway, hoping and waiting for the new version of the game.
 
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Oliz82

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Hello.

I'm not sure, I might consider using SubscribeStar as my second platform. However, just migrating there won't resolve the issue since all of these platforms adhere to certain American laws that prohibit the use of real pornography in your creations, that's the first point, and they also don't allow certain things like bestiality or rape, and so on, that's the second point. Even if SubscribeStar were to turn a blind eye to some of these aspects for a while, it wouldn't be wise to develop such a game if I intend for it to become my primary source of income in the future.
There are still many real porn games here and there that I don't think it's a real problem yet. If I read correctly what they said to you, it's the context behind their use that is problematic.

I'm confident that with 3D art, my game will only get better. After all, I won't have to adjust the storyline to fit GIFs anymore (as finding suitable GIFs is actually quite problematic), and I can fully focus on the narrative. Of course, I'll also strive to make the 3D renders themselves a more or less visually appealing, I guess you shouldn't worry about that.
Yeah, you can make whatever you want happen without restriction but that doesn't mean it will be appealing either. There are many games (2d, 3d, pixels, even ai cg recently) that are awful on the visual aspect. So it will depend on the models you choose and how good you are at doing it.
My preference will always be real porn. So the more realistic you can get, the better it will be.
Also, the writing is also playing a big part on what we are ready to go through.

Good continuation.
 
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Postred

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Hi there. Not sure that so massive changes are a good idea. The game had a great start, I subscribed right after the first sight. You need to just make game wider with couple updates for getting success on any platform, no matter Patreon or subscriberstar. Some games are living very well for years with real-porn(I personaly prefer it, instead any other style) and only fake stubs for evading Patreon policy issues. Removing key fetishes and the almost complete game rework will make you spend massive efforts for it, pause the development progress on this time, and even after it might not be so good as before. From my point of view finalizing current game base concepts and ideas with more content, getting some audience from it and, if you want, starting a new project later with any style you choose will be much better option.
 

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Hi there. Not sure that so massive changes are a good idea. The game had a great start, I subscribed right after the first sight. You need to just make game wider with couple updates for getting success on any platform, no matter Patreon or subscriberstar. Some games are living very well for years with real-porn(I personaly prefer it, instead any other style) and only fake stubs for evading Patreon policy issues. Removing key fetishes and the almost complete game rework will make you spend massive efforts for it, pause the development progress on this time, and even after it might not be so good as before. From my point of view finalizing current game base concepts and ideas with more content, getting some audience from it and, if you want, starting a new project later with any style you choose will be much better option.
Hello, and thank you for your donations.

You know, I agree with you on some points. Completely revamping the game's main fetishes and even the graphics might not be the best idea. I'll go further and say that I also prefer real porn over 3D. However, I just want to remind you that the problem wasn't that I lacked an audience; it's that I got banned from the platform and lost a pretty decent side income as for my country. I don't really want to step on the same rakes again and finally want to secure at least some more or less stable income without being afraid that I might be banned again if not today then tomorrow. So, first and foremost, I'm taking this step purely from an economic perspective. And secondly, that doesnt mean at all that I'm going to create some shitty renders where the models are in T-poses on every other image or something like that. After all, would you rellay be supporting me again in theory if I remake this game into some piece of garbage?

Of course, if someone has better suggestions, I'm willing to listen, but personally, I don't see any better options as for now and with my current knowledges.
 
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purple111

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Hello, and thank you for your donations.

You know, I agree with you on some points. Completely revamping the game's main fetishes and even the graphics might not be the best idea. I'll go further and say that I also prefer real porn over 3D. However, I just want to remind you that the problem wasn't that I lacked an audience; it's that I got banned from the platform and lost a pretty decent side income as for my country. I don't really want to step on the same rakes again and finally want to secure at least some more or less stable income without being afraid that I might be banned again if not today then tomorrow. So, first and foremost, I'm taking this step purely from an economic perspective. And secondly, that doesnt mean at all that I'm going to create some shitty renders where the models are in T-poses on every other image or something like that. After all, would you rellay be supporting me again in theory if I remake this game into some piece of garbage?

Of course, if someone has better suggestions, I'm willing to listen, but personally, I don't see any better options as for now and with my current knowledges.
It sucks that you will have to rework everything, though I wonder how much making 3D rendered will slow down your workflow, there is always the possibility of you using something like AI art as a placeholder while you work out the actual game mechanics, that way you might not have to redo and of the renders in case something changed down the line with the story\scenes etc.

Though I get that get decent results out of AI can be hard on its own and people also have ethical issues with it.

As for the shift to corruption, well that could work if the "Older male" (you might have to remove incest for Patreon as well) is still aggressive in pursuing the women and there is still an element of competition as there was in the original version.
 

Jaredxxj

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If you're reworking this anyway, consider making it a separate project. It avoids any confusion/disappointment from people who've played previous versions and expect one thing and get another (tonal and visual shift is a pretty big change in this case).

Side benefit is that the current version will remain available to be downloaded/worked on if you so desire.
 
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Cumstaih333

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Hello, and thank you for your donations.

You know, I agree with you on some points. Completely revamping the game's main fetishes and even the graphics might not be the best idea. I'll go further and say that I also prefer real porn over 3D. However, I just want to remind you that the problem wasn't that I lacked an audience; it's that I got banned from the platform and lost a pretty decent side income as for my country. I don't really want to step on the same rakes again and finally want to secure at least some more or less stable income without being afraid that I might be banned again if not today then tomorrow. So, first and foremost, I'm taking this step purely from an economic perspective. And secondly, that doesnt mean at all that I'm going to create some shitty renders where the models are in T-poses on every other image or something like that. After all, would you rellay be supporting me again in theory if I remake this game into some piece of garbage?

Of course, if someone has better suggestions, I'm willing to listen, but personally, I don't see any better options as for now and with my current knowledges.
Just hope you don't lose you entire fanbase with the rework, we've enough shitty 3D games as it is.
 
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Thackerweil

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It sucks that you will have to rework everything, though I wonder how much making 3D rendered will slow down your workflow, there is always the possibility of you using something like AI art as a placeholder while you work out the actual game mechanics, that way you might not have to redo and of the renders in case something changed down the line with the story\scenes etc.

Though I get that get decent results out of AI can be hard on its own and people also have ethical issues with it.

As for the shift to corruption, well that could work if the "Older male" (you might have to remove incest for Patreon as well) is still aggressive in pursuing the women and there is still an element of competition as there was in the original version.
I don't know yet how much time Daz3D will take on me. I remember when i was working with honey select, I had to spent about 15-25 minutes to make a full render. So i really hope that i will need about the same time with this graphic editor as well.

About aggressive man, i will leave it as it is. After all submitting my game to patreon rules doesn't necessary mean that i will remake this game into some Fairy tell book for children.

If you're reworking this anyway, consider making it a separate project. It avoids any confusion/disappointment from people who've played previous versions and expect one thing and get another (tonal and visual shift is a pretty big change in this case).

Side benefit is that the current version will remain available to be downloaded/worked on if you so desire.
Well I'm not sure that someone will be willing to play this version after the next one will be released (even if the next one will be only a shitty remake of the original game), but anyway i don't lose anything if i will do so. So i guess that's an option.
 

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I don't know yet how much time Daz3D will take on me. I remember when i was working with honey select, I had to spent about 15-25 minutes to make a full render. So i really hope that i will need about the same time with this graphic editor as well.

About aggressive man, i will leave it as it is. After all submitting my game to patreon rules doesn't necessary mean that i will remake this game into some Fairy tell book for children.



Well I'm not sure that someone will be willing to play this version after the next one will be released (even if the next one will be only a shitty remake of the original game), but anyway i don't lose anything if i will do so. So i guess that's an option.
I was asking since render times can be a issue if your hardware is not up to it. Anyways I wish you luck with the new version :)
 
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NTR guy

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Of course, if someone has better suggestions, I'm willing to listen, but personally, I don't see any better options as for now and with my current knowledges.
Use subscribestar, or if you still want to use Patreon just put the relations to a default (mom to landlady, sister to roomate) then in the first screen of the game let the player change these. There are games on f95 using patreon and doing similar things your game does, just check how they are bending the rules.
 

purple111

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Use subscribestar, or if you still want to use Patreon just put the relations to a default (mom to landlady, sister to roomate) then in the first screen of the game let the player change these. There are games on f95 using patreon and doing similar things your game does, just check how they are bending the rules.
May be it's a reliability\payment share % thing for the dev, they clearly want it to be a somewhat dependable sources of income which is understandable. Just spitballing here I don't know if the payment structures for the two sites is comparable etc. also I think the payment options on subscribestar are limited e.g. not being linked to paypal etc.

There is just an element of risk that the dev needs to carry anyways since more and more games that have or focus on NTR\Swinging content seem to be getting reported (by the butthurt weirds that seem to pop up every time a game releases, [yes I am making this small because subtext\subtlety is lost on those degenerates incest haram or nothing type crazies]) on Patreon (don't know how the devs page come under investigation in the first place), similar things have happened to devs like Bytehog prime and What? Why? Games.
 
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tpogs

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I don't know yet how much time Daz3D will take on me. I remember when i was working with honey select, I had to spent about 15-25 minutes to make a full render. So i really hope that i will need about the same time with this graphic editor as well.

About aggressive man, i will leave it as it is. After all submitting my game to patreon rules doesn't necessary mean that i will remake this game into some Fairy tell book for children.



Well I'm not sure that someone will be willing to play this version after the next one will be released (even if the next one will be only a shitty remake of the original game), but anyway i don't lose anything if i will do so. So i guess that's an option.
Any chance you have an update? Just on progress and how things are going. Maybe a render if you got anything on that front yet?
 

Thackerweil

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Any chance you have an update? Just on progress and how things are going. Maybe a render if you got anything on that front yet?
To not bother you with all the details I'll just say that I believe I found a way to fuck off all the patreon and other payment services that dont apreciate rough NSFW stuff and make my game however I want. Not sure how much time I still need for all of that to work properly but I'm working on it, not abandoning.
 

Vanafaye

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Hello, and thank you for your donations.

You know, I agree with you on some points. Completely revamping the game's main fetishes and even the graphics might not be the best idea. I'll go further and say that I also prefer real porn over 3D. However, I just want to remind you that the problem wasn't that I lacked an audience; it's that I got banned from the platform and lost a pretty decent side income as for my country. I don't really want to step on the same rakes again and finally want to secure at least some more or less stable income without being afraid that I might be banned again if not today then tomorrow. So, first and foremost, I'm taking this step purely from an economic perspective. And secondly, that doesnt mean at all that I'm going to create some shitty renders where the models are in T-poses on every other image or something like that. After all, would you rellay be supporting me again in theory if I remake this game into some piece of garbage?

Of course, if someone has better suggestions, I'm willing to listen, but personally, I don't see any better options as for now and with my current knowledges.
I appreciate your honesty but it sounds like you've lost sight on what the project meant to you and turned it into a cash cow. The fact people loved your game and you're willing to throw away a working formula because you want money makes you look pretty bad as a content creator.

Really had high hopes for this, so I hope you find a way around Patreon (they've always been shit anyway) without giving up the vision you had for the game.
 
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