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Alternatives to Patreon - Maybe for Adult games
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See that is the thing all these "omg use our nazi patreon!!" people don't understand.
Like Sam said in another topic when this whole thing came about, Hatreon is a massive waste of time for any dev even taking away the whole nazi aspect of it.
Doesn't support paypal and it is only a matter of time until credit card companies and online payment suppliers cut off support for payments to hatreon, the only reason they haven't yet is because it is such small potatoes, if it were bigger it would've already gotten their attention.
Pretty much the sole reason patreon is the success it is is because they accept paypal, due to the fact that most CC companies and banks won't process online payments to countries outside the US without prior confirmation from the sender for pretty much every transaction. (And consider how many of these adult game devs are located outside the US.)
Same reason why so many people use paypal for GOG pretty much.
Not many people are going to be dumb enough to spend BTC with the price fluctuations the way they are going.
MakerSupport seems to be used by primarily dumbasses. Their main topics seem to be feminism and Islam, and how they're secretly taking over western civilization, and ruining it....basically insane right wing propaganda.I also found another alternative to Patreon:You must be registered to see the links
In case people aren't comfortable with Hatreon. Please pass this info on to Saddog if anyone happens to have direct contact with him.
On the other hand, it might be the perfect place for a lot of devs to go to, because MakerSupport seems to genuinely not give a shit about the content that people are producing (obviously nothing illegal, just fringe).
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True, but if the middle man/store front (which are essentially what patreon is) are sketchy, than I'd rather not let them handle my money.
[edit]: and of course dark cookie remains untouched. Patreon are a bunch of fucking hypocrites.
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That's fair but I did a bit of research on them and they are a legit company. They're an LLC which means their accredited by the government for limited liability (meaning if they go under for whatever reason the people who have money with the website ie you and I will get our money back). Furthermore, they seem to be upfront with their terms of service, specifically mentioning NSFW content and how it is completely allowed provided it is labeled as such.
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Alright.That's fair but I did a bit of research on them and they are a legit company. They're an LLC which means their accredited by the government for limited liability (meaning if they go under for whatever reason the people who have money with the website ie you and I will get our money back). Furthermore, they seem to be upfront with their terms of service, specifically mentioning NSFW content and how it is completely allowed provided it is labeled as such.
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All that's left is a mass exodus of devs to another website, if it even happens. A lot of devs, like icstor, are just giving in to Patreon, and developing games with less....fringe fetishes. Simply because Patreon is the biggest platform, they probably feel like they don't have a realistic alternative.
Not to mention that considering MakerSupport and Hatreon are both catering to less savory individuals, people are probably put off by them, like myself.
Let's see what becomes of this. Hopefully, this doesn't mean the death of The Tyrant.
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Drip is gonna kill off patreon anyway most likely assuming it actually turns out properly from a layout/payment/etc perspective just becasue most of the big money SFW content creators will most likely jump ship as soon as it shows to be a true option.
(which is why patreon seems to be trying to cash out to a potential investor because they have to see the writing on the wall)
(which is why patreon seems to be trying to cash out to a potential investor because they have to see the writing on the wall)
It's frustrating that it's a choice between hate speech or heavily censored content. Just need a decent platform that manages to figure out that purely CG/text dark fetishes are fine, it's the real life abuse they should focus on removing.
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Regarding Makersupport, they use Stripe and are planning to add PayPal shortly, the same processors Patreon use, meaning they're going to run into exactly the same problems as Patreon.
An alternative has to have a rock solid plan when it comes to payment processors, otherwise if they run into issues then all subscriptions are cancelled and creators have to start again from 0. Billing yourself as an "alternative to Patreon, without the censorship" whilst using the same processors as Patreon is just plain retarded and a complete contradiction of terms.
TLDR: Makersupport isn't a viable alternative.
An alternative has to have a rock solid plan when it comes to payment processors, otherwise if they run into issues then all subscriptions are cancelled and creators have to start again from 0. Billing yourself as an "alternative to Patreon, without the censorship" whilst using the same processors as Patreon is just plain retarded and a complete contradiction of terms.
TLDR: Makersupport isn't a viable alternative.
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Indeed, as long as crypto are in young huge fluctuation phase, it won't be worth it.
Second argument : no sufficient potential customer base using bitcoin or altcoins.
But in the future, it'll be a huge help in bypassing the whole puritan (mostly US) banking system.
That's the only important thing.
Any platform filtering their content based on ideological (and moral) views is by definition non neutral, thus not giving freedom for creators.
I don't give a shit about a far right, far left or extreme puritan dude being funded through a platform, I just don't give him money, as simple as that. Basic tolerance is also to let live legal content that I don't agree with.
Their business models are fundementally different, so comparing them is not a good idea.
Right now, all I can say is fuck patreon. They've been pulling a lot of cunty moves recently, and they literally have no good excuse.
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