Alternatives to Patreon - Maybe for Adult games

gamersglory

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I am currently looking at opening a Patreon alternative. The upside is I will allow Taboo subjects as long as there "Fictional" in nature and characters are all 18+. Working out the logistics and other things like payment processors and hosting. Downside won't be ready until at least February. But I do have a solution in the works
 

fukmada

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Kickstarter just announced they will launch a Patreon like platform called Drip.


It is currently in an ''Invite Only'' mode but they are planning to open to public early 2018.
Here's their current Terms & Conditions :


There is no limitation whatsoever on adult content, if people have the patience to wait until early 2018, it might be worth the shot to switch to Drip.
 

gamersglory

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You did not read what the prohibitive items are

Via Kickstarter

We prohibit projects that are illegal, heavily regulated, or potentially dangerous for backers, as well as rewards that the creator did not make.

  1. Any item claiming to cure, treat, or prevent an illness or condition (whether via a device, app, book, nutritional supplement, or other means).
  2. Contests, coupons, gambling, and raffles.
  3. Energy food and drinks.
  4. Offensive material (e.g., hate speech, encouraging violence against others, etc).
  5. Offering a genetically modified organism as a reward.
  6. Live animals. Projects cannot include live animals as a reward.
  7. Offering alcohol as a reward.
  8. Offering financial, money-processing, or credit services; financial intermediaries or cash-equivalent instruments; travel services (e.g., vacation packages); phone services (e.g., prepaid phone services, 900 numbers); and business marketing services.
  9. Political fundraising.
  10. Pornographic material.
  11. Projects that promote discrimination, bigotry, or intolerance towards marginalized groups
  12. Projects that share things that already exist, or repackage a previously-created product, without adding anything new or aiming to iterate on the idea in any way.
  13. Resale. All rewards must have been produced or designed by the project or one of its creators — no reselling things from elsewhere.
  14. Drugs, nicotine, tobacco, vaporizers and related paraphernalia.
  15. Weapons, replicas of weapons, and weapon accessories.
If your project involves something illegal, heavily regulated, or potentially dangerous for backers and it is not on this list, please before starting your project.
 

fukmada

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You did not read what the prohibitive items are

Via Kickstarter

We prohibit projects that are illegal, heavily regulated, or potentially dangerous for backers, as well as rewards that the creator did not make.

  1. Any item claiming to cure, treat, or prevent an illness or condition (whether via a device, app, book, nutritional supplement, or other means).
  2. Contests, coupons, gambling, and raffles.
  3. Energy food and drinks.
  4. Offensive material (e.g., hate speech, encouraging violence against others, etc).
  5. Offering a genetically modified organism as a reward.
  6. Live animals. Projects cannot include live animals as a reward.
  7. Offering alcohol as a reward.
  8. Offering financial, money-processing, or credit services; financial intermediaries or cash-equivalent instruments; travel services (e.g., vacation packages); phone services (e.g., prepaid phone services, 900 numbers); and business marketing services.
  9. Political fundraising.
  10. Pornographic material.
  11. Projects that promote discrimination, bigotry, or intolerance towards marginalized groups
  12. Projects that share things that already exist, or repackage a previously-created product, without adding anything new or aiming to iterate on the idea in any way.
  13. Resale. All rewards must have been produced or designed by the project or one of its creators — no reselling things from elsewhere.
  14. Drugs, nicotine, tobacco, vaporizers and related paraphernalia.
  15. Weapons, replicas of weapons, and weapon accessories.
If your project involves something illegal, heavily regulated, or potentially dangerous for backers and it is not on this list, please before starting your project.
This is for their kickstater platform, there is no sayin about pornographic material for Drip. Since the adult content is quite a huge thing on Patreon I doubt they will say no to it.
I have sent them as message to learn about their policy on adult content, I will share it with y'all when they respond.
 

gamersglory

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This is for their kickstater platform, there is no sayin about pornographic material for Drip. Since the adult content is quite a huge thing on Patreon I doubt they will say no to it.
I have sent them as message to learn about their policy on adult content, I will share it with y'all when they respond.
It's gonna be the same as Drip is owned by Kickstarter. Why would thay change there prohibitive items when the two platforms are linked. There Payment provider will not allow adult content just like most
 

anne O'nymous

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It's gonna be the same as Drip is owned by Kickstarter. Why would thay change there prohibitive items when the two platforms are linked. There Payment provider will not allow adult content just like most
There's adult games who used kickstarter, so we fall back to the main question as usual, what do they see as "pornographic" ? And like Amazon is one of the two payment providers they use, we know that this shouldn't be such a problem. Well, unless their rules are more strict about what you can sell than what they can sell.
 

gamersglory

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Stripe who is a big payment clearing house does not allow adult content Visa and MasterCard don't technically allow it either
 

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Hopefully a good alternative shows up. By the looks at some new ways of suspensions, they are really cracking down. I wouldnt be surprised, if they are trying to push adult content completely off the platform.
 

gamersglory

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Kickstarter uses Stripe. A lot of companies that used Braintree have moved to Stripe. That's why eBay spun Paypal off into its own company. There losing money.
Braintree is owned by Paypal
 

fukmada

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Well, they answered in a way where they didn't say no or yes :

Hi,

Thank you for your interest, and apologies for the delay responding to this message.

We're working on including more information about Drip in our FAQ section soon. This would include a more detailed description of our service as well as our policies.

Thanks for being an active member of the community.
 

rs6.igg.biz

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here some I find that could be interesting:

 

gamersglory

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Celery uses Stripe so that would not work and the other platform has obscene content banned in there TOS. I've found a payment platform that will work.
 
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I have a radical idea. Why not have a platform where patrons pay exclusively in bitoin (or some other cryptocurrency) ? That way you don't have to worry about the payment processor or credit card companies suddenly suddenly blacklisting your site for its content. (this is why Brazzers discontinued their 'Pornstar Punishment' series)
 

greyknight

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Here is another crowdfunding site that looks similar to Patreon and Hatreon. There already seem to be Youtube personalities using the site.
I couldn't find any TOS so no idea if pornography is ok but they make Free Speech front and center.
 

Aprilsun

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Could be just the thing for adult creators and their problems on Patreon. 8.1% fee and profit seems ok as long as people can create in peace.
 

Voilsh

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I don't understand the Hatreon hate.
I mean, the dude pretty much is all about freedom of speech (and thus of content) as a true libertarian, so it's the ideal platform if you want to create legal work without the risk of a morality police saying what's ok and what's not.
And pretty much anything 2d would be OK as there no real person involved.

Sure, you have white supremacists there, but you don't have to support them. They just happen to use the same platform as you, but they probably also use the same OS, and same applications or phones. Who cares?

What's important is to be free to make content without waiting for the next thing to be banned because the new boss has a puritan epiphany. I thought for a second that patreon would be the platform allowing the western porn industry to have the same variety as its Japanese counterpart, but it seems they've gone stupid after their success.