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crabboid

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5. Tyler is just important on the “Ellie bitch” path.
- Will the Tyler route be created now?
With the most recent update, and how much progress Tyler has made in such a relatively short amount of time, I’m actually kind of looking forward to the possibilities of Ellie’s prom now. Like maybe Tyler “distracts” Sophia so that Logan can seal the deal with Ellie without interference. Then there’s the whole culmination of Sam’s music lessons with Sophia after that.

I’m looking at probably 3-4 years of nothing in this game, between all the Patricia and Dylan stuff that I don’t care about, but assuming it’s still going by then, I’ll be eating good once we get to Monday.
 
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Couto25

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Had a few back and forth with LP so I’m just summarising below.

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I will go for Patricia and museum guys....I am done with Dylan....Go for sex with strangers. I just hope those scene will lead to sex and not just handjob and blowjob.

First sex of sophia should not be an incest scene. After that, no matter add 2/3 years of incest with Dylan and Ellie.
 

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dbzf

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We can summarize this update as all of L&P's fucked up ideas and flaws piled up.
Sophia says with ellie that she shouldn't wash hair but then takes shower with ellie, i mean like whats the use of that dumb line if he going to fuck up his own cover up for needlessly changing her hairstyle.

Also someone please clear this up for me , did tyler finger sophia? Or she stopped him from entering her and he just played with her labia?
 

DIRTY Filthy RAT

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With the most recent update, and how much progress Tyler has made in such a relatively short amount of time, I’m actually kind of looking forward to the possibilities of Ellie’s prom now. Like maybe Tyler “distracts” Sophia so that Logan can seal the deal with Ellie without interference. Then there’s the whole culmination of Sam’s music lessons with Sophia after that.

I’m looking at probably 3-4 years of nothing in this game, between all the Patricia and Dylan stuff that I don’t care about, but assuming it’s still going by then, I’ll be eating good once we get to Monday.
Why would Sophia be at Ellie’s prom? Is she Sams date, no wait he doesn’t even go to there school. Is there a after prom party that Ellie said she would invite her mom and Tyler too? Actually I could see Sophia signing up to be one of the chaperones at the prom :ROFLMAO:
 
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crabboid

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Why would Sophia be at Ellie’s prom? Is she Sams date, no wait he doesn’t even go to there school. Is there a after prom party that Ellie said she would invite her mom and Tyler too? :ROFLMAO:
Who said she’s going to be at the prom? Just that something might happen during or after the prom :ROFLMAO:
 

Couto25

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I also have stopped sponsoring this developer, so I cannot participate in the voting process.
I rely on the information provided by Dr.SigmundFap.

I calculate the instantaneous vote count by subtracting the previous cumulative vote count from the last cumulative vote count.

And below is the result.
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As far as I count in this voting stats...LP had planned Sophia sex with 25 characters of the story before the release of Part 2.
It doesn't matter which character got how many votes but basically there were 25 different characters storyline with Sophia before starting part 2 of the story.

Everyone who were paid subscribers paid LP to see Sophia sex with each and every character..It doesn't matter if some character has got 30 votes and other character has got 1000 votes. The important thing is that they paid LP to see sex of Sophia with those characters, they were not freebies. Yea if someone like dylan and sam got highest vote start showing sex storyline with them first. But what about other characters?? I think Tyler was not even in that list of characters but still he got screentime and dick touch scene with Sophia.

Sophia has already got maximum filth point now.

I wanna say with every update, develop the storyline in such a way that it covers sex with atleast 2 characters per update. That way he can cover sex with 6 character per year if he launch 3 updates per year. And he can finally finish his story in the next 4/5 years.

Drop this slow burn story telling ways after 7 years, ending with just 1 scene and that too handjob or blowjob scene. And start developing the story that include storyline with these voted character including sex scene.

Atleast he can finish his game after 11/12 years this way...I mean 12 years is not less to finish just 1 Virtual Novel.

Stop messing around with the subscribers who supported LP in the past for months and years and drop the idea of adding Dylan and Ellie as a MC. You can develop Dylan and Ellie story after finishing one game.. and make another game as "The son and the daughter". And keep your Dylan Ellie fanbase for another 20 years where you can start corrupting them slowly for 7 years too. There are 2 characters so you can take 14 years to corrupt them to sex.

But Enough is Enough...Stick to Sophia as MC and stick to what subscriber has voted you for and supported you in the past. Don't divert the storyline by introducing more characters.. 25 is more than enough for sophia sex storyline.
 
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As far as I count in this voting stats...LP had planned Sophia sex with 25 characters of the story before the release of Part 2.
It doesn't matter which character got how many votes but basically there were 25 different characters storyline with Sophia before starting part 2 of the story.

Everyone who were paid subscribers paid LP to see Sophia sex with each and every character..It doesn't matter if some character has got 30 votes and other character has got 1000 votes. Yea if someone like dylan and sam got highest vote start showing sex storyline with them first. But what about other characters?? I think Tyler was not even in that list of characters but still he got screentime and dick touch scene with Sophia.

Sophia has already got maximum filth point now.

I wanna say with every update, develop the storyline in such a way that it covers sex with atleast 2 characters per update. That way he can cover sex with 6 character per year if he launch 3 updates per year. And he can finally finish his story in the next 4/5 years.

Drop this slow burn story telling ways after 7 years, ending with just 1 scene and that too handjob or blowjob scene. And start developing the story that include storyline with these voted character including sex scene.

Atleast he can finish his game after 12/13 years this way...I mean 13 years is not less to finish just 1 Virtual Novel.

Stop messing around with the subscribers who supported LP in the past for months and years and drop the idea of adding Dylan and Ellie as a MC. You can develop Dylan and Ellie story after finishing one game.. and make another game as "The son and the daughter". And keep your Dylan Ellie fanbase for another 20 years where you can start corrupting them slowly for 7 years too. There are 2 characters so you can take 14 years to corrupt them to sex.

But Enough is Enough...Stick to Sophia as MC and stick to what subscriber has voted you for and supported you in past. Don't divert the storyline by introducing more characters.. 25 is more than enough for Sophia sex storyline.
In short words : he prolonged story to milk thats why he introduced too many chars so focus can stay off Sophia because other project he milks from other Patreon accounts games he started here on the site.

INCSTR and AORRTA was like that. Except they actually finished few games many years ago then changed names or stated new projects under different accounts to milk ppl till they bleed...
But I agree with U
 

packard1928

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How can this guy have 1900 paid members ! There are so many other deserving Dev's that produce a game with sex.... aterall that is what a porn game is suppose to have ! I do agree this has a godd story line. But man for as long as this has beed going.... this is not a good return for the money. I will never support this. I watch now just to see if by chance something DID happen. I have no hope there ever will. THe fan art is what keep this going...
 

MixQQ

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How can this guy have 1900 paid members ! There are so many other deserving Dev's that produce a game with sex.... aterall that is what a porn game is suppose to have ! I do agree this has a godd story line. But man for as long as this has beed going.... this is not a good return for the money. I will never support this. I watch now just to see if by chance something DID happen. I have no hope there ever will. THe fan art is what keep this going...
true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls
 

kalifrey20

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true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls
The problem also is that every time, he creates a new path letting all the previous ones unfinished, so the story never will go anywhere. So yes I agree with not waist money in patreon for this nosense
 

Couto25

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true, but people like to waste money, just like simps for camgirls
yea but they get what they wanted in the end right..if i pay Camgirl to see her pussy ...i will get that....LP is like people paying him to see sex and he give boobshow. If i paid him to show sex of sophia with museum guys , he will show lesbian scene of ellie and christine...and after the update he say ellie is MC..it doesn't make sense with him.
 

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yea but they get what they wanted in the end right..if i pay Camgirl to see her pussy ...i will get that....LP is like people paying him to see sex and he give boobshow. If i paid him to show sex of sophia with museum guys , he will show lesbian scene of ellie and christine...and after the update he say ellie is MC..it doesn't make sense with him.
How do you know what the “people” pay L&P for? I ask because I haven't seen any figures on this.
After seven years of development, any newcomer should have enough information to know what the game is about and how slow the development speed is before they start paying.
Anyone who joins or stays with L&P at the highest developer levels should know exactly what to expect. Or it's a complete idiot who doesn't bother to ask what he can get in return before he invests.
That's why I think most of his supporters know exactly that they're getting a slow character development, a story with many characters and more eroticism than sex, and are happy with that for a while.
 

Couto25

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How do you know what the “people” pay L&P for? I ask because I haven't seen any figures on this.
After seven years of development, any newcomer should have enough information to know what the game is about and how slow the development speed is before they start paying.
Anyone who joins or stays with L&P at the highest developer levels should know exactly what to expect. Or it's a complete idiot who doesn't bother to ask what he can get in return before he invests.
That's why I think most of his supporters know exactly that they're getting a slow character development, a story with many characters and more eroticism than sex, and are happy with that for a while.
I know what people pay LP for because I was one of them..I will give you an example...with that voting too...Consider this if you like my novel and I ask you who would you like to have screentime and sex with sophia and I will give you 4 options..you choose 1 option or maybe all 4...and I will start building up story with 5th option will you stick to me?
And about complaining yea I unsubscribed him so I can say why and all stuff...Second, I dont mind eroticism it can be shown with sex too..You think supporters know exactly what they are getting?? I didnt know that..As an ex subscriber, he divert the story to keep extending slow burn...and I think you are just saying "happy for a while" yes so that's what I am saying..we call that milking ...whether it's new or old supporters, he will milk them and they will get disappointed and then they will do this in future what I am doing now. Please do subscribe him and check yourself if whatever he asked you to vote for, whether you will get it or not. I sincerely can recommend you to be his patreon and let us know your experience after an year. I dont take advices from freebies.
 
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