VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.200] [Lust & Passion]

[Tony_Stark]

I'm very glad to don't have to watch oversized penises (and breasts) in this game.

all others will have huge cock, it's just husband with small penis, like in every similiar femele protag games

 

[Soccergod2666]

.2 save?

 

[Olivia_V]

First off, thank you to the hero who reduced the size!

2) Lesbian Temptation is indeed a little different. (SPOILER WARNING): Currently it was planned that Sophia can discover her bi side and talk with her husband later about her new feelings. Maybe even get a threesome as a Good Wife with some girl(friend).

Wait, "was"? So the plan has changed?

 

[Narnia123]

I really appreciate all of you out there who likes what I'm doing. Unfortunately there are not many of you. Some people just don't understand that we got here a gradually developing (more authentic) story, written for 30 playable days and we are just at the end of playable day 4 now! Next vers. 0.035/0.04 will be playable day 5. So there will still happen a lot. But all in good time.
It's just obvious now that I tried to bring an unique quality and effort to the absolutely wrong game genre where only the very minority is interested in a realistic story development, extremely detailed elaborate renders (huge varying settings) and really read and especially understand all the dialogues and notice all the fine hints everywhere. While the very majority are just looking for a quick fap. For me it's very important to get to know all the characters first before it comes to lewd scenes with them.

What concerns the blackouts, I'll try to edit this for the next version completely and make them even shorter. But I absolutely don't understand why so many people got problems with some 0.5 - 2 second blackouts between scene changes. This is an aesthetic method which is used in every movie! It shows that many people just want to click themselves as fast as possible through the game.

But anyway. I'll try to fasten up the next days by reducing the amount of renders even more. But the problem will still be, that if I create different paths, then it takes more time of course. So people who are playing a special path will get the feeling that there is not much content like it's the case with this update 0.03. That's why I also thought about to start creating short erotic stories, where you won't have many paths but they will be very short, lucid and lewd stuff will happen much faster.

Do what you do, how you wanna do it. People care about your different approach to the game genre, even the haters, otherwise they wouldn't use their time criticising the same shit about the game to make up the satisfaction of their wiener. Even though criticism is great, and every game should have that, people tend to expect full on gangbang in a realistic Visual Novel so early on, and that is something to ignore. Some people gather as flocks of sheep and keep talking about content they want in the game, meanwhile most of them probably dont even support the creator, which is fine, but coming with repetitive comments is kinda useless feedback. I disagree with you about the minority thing, as people actually like your game, here and surely patrons that support you!

 

[Ignatz]

Might simply be an English grammar mistake

 

[Penfold Mole]

I have to tell @Lust&Passion, his game is fantastic. The story, the characters (their motivations), the pictures, the sounds, the feeling of the game is marvelous.
But 3 talk scenes (Alyssa, Dylan, Ellie), 2 build up scenes (gym and pool), and 2 erotic scenes (good wife and filthy), is not too much. And it was two month. :/ Maybe some times less (than 213) renders and some times smaller (than 22 very different characters in one image) ones, would be better. But it's hard dilemma. This characteristics of the game make it unique.

Hard to say anything... We love your game, that's why we want more, and we are impatients.

Couldn't agree more about the quality of the game, but I also have to say that the first published version (v0.01, I guess) was HUGE for a first release. Most of the content of this game is still from the first release, I think. There were several months of hard work already buried into it then and the amount of new content in the following versions obviously can not be that large.

There are 502 new full frame renders in v0.03, some of them very complex, some have lots of reflective surfaces, plus all the pool scenes have a very realistic refraction effect that you can see in few games. The models are positioned realistically, it means there is a lot of time and effort put into it.
I don't know if this is too little for two months or not, but I'm guessing this isn't a full time job for the dev, so this is actually really quite impressive.
@Lust&Passion seems to be a perfectionist, he doesn't take the quality of his game lightly. The quality of this game is definitely one of the highest I've seen here @f95zone so far.

 

[Ignatz]

Probably set unrealistic expectations at that point.

 

[blastwave2k]

Looks like the new version is already out here, however. Let's clarify briefly a few things about this version and the further story because there are again many clairvoyants out here who knows everything better than I do about this game!

1) For the Good Wife path it was actually planned that Sophia will experiment a few things with her husband. With the oral sex scene and Sophia's reactions on mouth-creampie and deepthroat, I tried to imply, that her behavior to this could change later! I mean, why shouldn't it? How do you come to the conclusion that this won't happen? You don't need the filthy points for that because Sophia will do that as a Good Wife! Filthy points are more like cheating points and finding other ways "to get some fun"! Sophia can also get filthy in love for her hubby!

2) Lesbian Temptation is indeed a little different. (SPOILER WARNING): Currently it was planned that Sophia can discover her bi side and talk with her husband later about her new feelings. Maybe even get a threesome as a Good Wife with some girl(friend).

3) About swimming and that 18 years old can't swim: I don't know how it is in other countries but in Germany where I live, every 4th adult can't swim at all or only very bad, according to DLRG (german lifesaving association)! You've never seen a movie where adults fall in water and shouting "help, I can't swim!"???
And Dylan and Sam had swimming courses in elementary school. So they actually can swim a little bit but just need to remember again how.

5) In this version are 502 renders! So, no, I didn't become lazy. I can't believe how many people just don't think about to maybe try some different ways (decisions).

It's also very alarming, how many players don't see all the fine hints for possible future events, spread over the whole game yet (probably because they're just clicking like hell through the images to find some "lewd stuff")

Here a short overview about the events in vers. 0.03 (SPOILER WARNING):
1) Sophia returns from her job and talks with Alyssa on phone about gym later. Sophia can accept or decline and Alyssa won't call her ever again!
2) Sophia talks with Dylan in his room about his problems with his history teacher (the hot teacher Sophia met in vers. 0.025!). Sophia notices a bruise at his eyebrow. Then Sophia can tickle with him to cheer him up and they accidentally touch each other at private spots.
3) Swimming Lesson: here the best way is to stay in the shirt first. Then Sophia will fall into the water and the boys will see her underwear. Sophia can get filthy points if she ignores how they stare at her. Sam watches behind Sophia when she leaves and then he talks with Dylan about that, who seems a little pissed of about how his buddy was staring at his mom.
Sophia will change into her monokini anyway. Then she'll jump into the water and the boys will swim to her one by one.
If you got enough relationship points with Sam then they will hold themselves and talk. Dylan will have the possibility to intervene or stay quiet and watch them talking intimately. This will have an effect on the story (and on Dylan) later!
After seeing Sam and his mom, Dylan gets jealous and try to press himself close to his mom's breasts though he can swim now (You'll see that, if Sophia has not enough points with Sam and pressing him away. Then Dylan swims to her normally and don't clutch at her!)
4) Sophia will drive to the grocery store if she refused to go to gym with Alyssa
5) Sophia and Alyssa practicing together in gym. Alyssa tells Sophia about her boyfriend, who plays basketball in her college.
Sophia gets the possibility to flirt with Alyssa, touch her butt and squeeze it. All this gives her lesbian points.
4+5) If she has more good wife than filthy points, she will remember to call Liam and tell him about the opera tickets.
6) Good wife evening: Liam returns early from work. Sophia will go with him to the opera (a very ambitious opera scene with up to 22 very different characters in one image!)
Returning home, Liam will try to seduce Sophia. You will get the chance to play as Sophia and dominate Liam or play as Liam and dominate Sophia.
This entire "Good Wife evening activity" has got 213 renders!
7) Filthy evening: Sophia talks with Ellie in the living room. Liam returns back from work very late and just wants to hit the pillow.
Sophia stays back alone in the living room and can watch a porn what gives her a filthy point. She gets very horny and starts touching herself.
If you keep watching the porn and get caught by Ellie: Sophia loses all her passion and goes sleeping.
If you switch off: she remains horny and masturbates under the shower, thinking about being the girl in the porn and getting fucked by the guys. Dylan disturbs her when she almost reached her climax.
She will think about her thoughts in bed. She'll get 2 filthy points (in the edited version).

And I don't know if anyone noticed that there are some hot moaning and panting sounds too!

So all together there happened enough in 0.03 (especially when you consider that all the renders are practically flawless and some also very ambitious!)! But of course if some people just run through the game as fast as possible without even try some different ways, then of course it's very short! By the way, I tried myself to play the longest filthy path of 0.03 by just clicking every images away. I needed almost 5 minutes! So I guess you easily need about 15, if you read the text and enjoy some renders for at least 2 seconds!

Either way, from now on I'll try my best to make some events of the next days quicker with less renders, to speed things up finally and get to the main events.

this is great to know. and explains a bit. if you don't have decent good wife points, you miss the whole opera part which makes this update seem shorter. your "take" and quality is what got you the level of support you have. don't change that now. when its done, this thing will be great

 

[thexian99]

BRUH.

Civilized countries snip their boys, religious or not.

I have to respectfully disagree here, and I'll treat this statement as being made in full sincerity, though I'm inclined to think you might just be being a little facetious.

I was raised uncircumcised, and had no issues with having a foreskin, aside from a very mild case of phimosis (tight foreskin). Everything worked just fine, and I had no problems with hygiene. I ultimately decided as an adult to get circumcised to resolve the phimosis, and have had no issues with that, either (it obviously did resolve that specific issue). My family had multiple medical professionals and my parents made the decision not to circumcise me on the advice of my pediatrician. Other than the inconvenience and discomfort of having done this as an adult, I have absolutely no problem with my parents' decision.

Unless you're making a religious judgement (which you are not), either decision is entirely acceptable and equally 'civilized.'

 

[thexian99]

I really appreciate all of you out there who likes what I'm doing. Unfortunately there are not many of you. Some people just don't understand that we got here a gradually developing (more authentic) story, written for 30 playable days and we are just at the end of playable day 4 now! Next vers. 0.035/0.04 will be playable day 5. So there will still happen a lot. But all in good time.
It's just obvious now that I tried to bring an unique quality and effort to the absolutely wrong game genre where only the very minority is interested in a realistic story development, extremely detailed elaborate renders (huge varying settings) and really read and especially understand all the dialogues and notice all the fine hints everywhere. While the very majority are just looking for a quick fap. For me it's very important to get to know all the characters first before it comes to lewd scenes with them.

What concerns the blackouts, I'll try to edit this for the next version completely and make them even shorter. But I absolutely don't understand why so many people got problems with some 0.5 - 2 second blackouts between scene changes. This is an aesthetic method which is used in every movie! It shows that many people just want to click themselves as fast as possible through the game.

But anyway. I'll try to fasten up the next days by reducing the amount of renders even more. But the problem will still be, that if I create different paths, then it takes more time of course. So people who are playing a special path will get the feeling that there is not much content like it's the case with this update 0.03. That's why I also thought about to start creating short erotic stories, where you won't have many paths but they will be very short, lucid and lewd stuff will happen much faster.

I just wanna say, as someone who admittedly skips through about 90% of your game that I appreciate your style. I like knowing that, if I want to know more about these characters and their circumstances, I have that opportunity. You create the work you think is best. And sure as hell don't listen to us here that aren't willing to pay you for it!

 

[Londo_Mollari]

BRUH.

Civilized countries snip their boys, religious or not.

A very us-centric opinion ^^
In Europe most males aren't circumcised. Hope government(s) will pass a law that makes it illegal to mutilate (hard word ... but fits) children.

 

[paladin07]

And WHY exactly? Nature logic dictates that it is there for the reason or at least it doesn't hurt to have it.

it was thought that it would reduce the spread of venereal diseases. But I am not defending the practice. My dad was born in 1942 to an OB/GYN father. He is uncircumcised. I was born in 1970 and was circumcised. Despite my wife's protests that I should have sons who look like their dad, I decided not to circumcise my 2 sons and our pediatrician agreed with that decision.
Edit: Also, during the time of the ancient Israelites, etc. circumcision was actually a good idea because frequent bathing was not always possible and cleaning behind the foreskin would not be a top priority when cleaning water was available. Also, urinary tract infectionsm, some forms of cancer, etc. are more common with intact foreskins and back then were harder to cure than now. Anyway, again, I am not defending the practice. There are three kinds of men who are circumcised around the world: Jews, Muslims and Americans.

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[BSoda]

Enjoyed the update. A bit sad to see that L&P's Patreon seems to more or less stagnate at its current level. Always thought his 8k goal in six (?) months was unrealistic, but more should definitely be possible, even after Patreon delisted adult games.

Thinks I noticed:

-Dylan, Sam and Ellie look more mature now, which makes their (implied) ages more believable. Imo he did a good job with their new design.
-Dylan and Ellie are also still Sophia's children which makes me kind of wonder if L&P really has any plans to implement the very heavily implied incest path (...though I guess he can still postpone any decision on this as we're probably still a couple of months away from any "problematic" content in that regard. Technically there isn't any incest in the game yet.).
-Didn't take as much issue with the "teach 18 year old teens swimming" scene as some here seem to have. It's imo not so terribly out of character for snobish, high-society brats to be "above" properly learning to swim.
-First update with actually branching story lines! Great!

...though I already see the problems with his "movie-like" approach to the game (using a very large amount of renders to advance every tiny bit of the story instead of limiting them to important plot points / sex scenes). Together with his high quality renders it sets him apart from the rest of the big names, but I wonder if this kind of approach will be sustainable...if we figure in a branching story we are at what? ~5% of the complete game? Can he really keep going for another 4 years or so? Especially if he doesn't reach the funding goals he wanted to achieve?

I sure do hope so. It's a very special game and I really appreciate the slow burn of it. I truly hope we'll be able to see it completed.

 

[Ignatz]

Another weird board conversation and klx pops up. Hmm. Coincidence? I think not!

 

[googunogu]

Great job, great game

 

[Joe_shoe33]

Anyone have the save for the "good wife" route?

 

[Ecchi-Lover44]

for a child to be circumcised should be illegal here in Europe but for a medical reason like i had with my tight foreskine should not be a adult can be under morfine for it and deal with it a baby not

 

[xןʞ]

Another weird board conversation and klx pops up. Hmm. Coincidence? I think not!

Any excuse to talk about dicks, you know me baby.

 

[Ignatz]

Right, right. My bad. In my defense, you never asked about female problems in Europe.

 

[Whitenicky]

Anyone have the save for the "good wife" route?

Yeah, look few pages back..