baka

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what I dont like is all the crying babies that always want what "THEY" want and don't give a crap about anyone else.
even if the Dev is trying his best to please everyone, listening to all critics and even changes his story to give crying babies some nude, its never enough. now this "IF NTR then I will not support", without carefully reading the description and the plans, first complain instead of first getting facts and then give feedback. for me its just crying babies that will make it hard for the Dev to make the game. and Im not even sure the crying babies are supporting the Dev at all.

this is a neverending circle of crying babies that infect the forum with egocentric requests. and usually the Devs are answering them, wasting time to explain, to please them, to try to find compromise. time that could instead be spent with creativity and real feedback. no matter if the Dev is bad, doing it wrong, he will always need "good feedback", not crying babies that infect and consume motivation and freedom.
 

baka

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well u got it all wrong .
the reason of my post is that the dev is spending time answering people that only "demands" or even "threatens" to have it their way. the "NTR" is about a poster that complained and didn't want it in the game and started to argue about it, and the dev was forced to answer that and explained its optional. but we all know it is optional if we gave a minute to read the description. so, no I can not agree that is constructive feedback, for me its the "typical" crybaby that always demands and cry if theres something he dont like. criticism is not about your egoistical needs, but how to make the game better, criticism is not about making the game so that only you enjoy it, but how to make it enjoyable for many. i call them crybabies because they only understand their own needs and don't give a crap about anyone else. nor the dev nor other people with different tastes.
 

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what I dont like is all the crying babies that always want what "THEY" want and don't give a crap about anyone else.
even if the Dev is trying his best to please everyone, listening to all critics and even changes his story to give crying babies some nude, its never enough. now this "IF NTR then I will not support", without carefully reading the description and the plans, first complain instead of first getting facts and then give feedback. for me its just crying babies that will make it hard for the Dev to make the game. and Im not even sure the crying babies are supporting the Dev at all.

this is a neverending circle of crying babies that infect the forum with egocentric requests. and usually the Devs are answering them, wasting time to explain, to please them, to try to find compromise. time that could instead be spent with creativity and real feedback. no matter if the Dev is bad, doing it wrong, he will always need "good feedback", not crying babies that infect and consume motivation and freedom.
Will be so easy if some guys simply wait for this christmas and then play the game.Around that time there will be already events with son and daughter.But,please don't expect and don't demand sex this year.Maybe on good wife route there will be some.
 

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what I dont like is all the crying babies that always want what "THEY" want and don't give a crap about anyone else.
even if the Dev is trying his best to please everyone, listening to all critics and even changes his story to give crying babies some nude, its never enough. now this "IF NTR then I will not support", without carefully reading the description and the plans, first complain instead of first getting facts and then give feedback. for me its just crying babies that will make it hard for the Dev to make the game. and Im not even sure the crying babies are supporting the Dev at all.

this is a neverending circle of crying babies that infect the forum with egocentric requests. and usually the Devs are answering them, wasting time to explain, to please them, to try to find compromise. time that could instead be spent with creativity and real feedback. no matter if the Dev is bad, doing it wrong, he will always need "good feedback", not crying babies that infect and consume motivation and freedom.
Listen, it is and will never be enough, that's human nature. You can't satistfy the whole spectrum of fans. What do you think Patreon is, a Charity Website?! It's supply and demand.
But these so called fans that don't pledge 1 Cent, can just shut the fuck up. They have no right to complain, at all.
 
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Lust & Passion posted
A little status report

I replaced my GPU's and can finally work with my usual power again.

The next update will probably be straight 0.04 and not 0.035. It will contain the whole Day 12 which won't be very long (about 7 events).

The first teaser image will be released very soon.

Also soon: a poll for Sophia's new hairstyle.
 

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The next update will probably be straight 0.04 and not 0.035. It will contain the whole Day 12 which won't be very long (about 7 events).
Sounds promising. :) We can count with two months developing time?
(It's OK for me, just ask, what can we expect?)
 

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One thing pirates don't care about is that to make these games we end up going through GPU's and PC equipment to do it. They don't seem to realize when they bitch about how are games look or why the update doesn't come faster is because of the money needed to keep our rigs going otherwise they won't get better
 

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You're making it seem like, in order to be a fan, you have to be a pledger. Or worse, if you're not pledging, you don't even have a right to speak up and share your views. That's a ridiculous notion. This is a pirate forum, first and foremost.
The Internet is the great equalizer. We're all anonymous people who play porn games, and no opinion carries more weight than another. Patreons may have a direct line with the developer, but generally speaking, they have no power here.
Like you said, Patreon is not charity - it's simply supply and demand. The developers who choose to have a presence here understand the risks (criticism and bitching) as well as the rewards (the possibility of broadening their customer base).
There are those who financially support games, and those who don't. Patreon might ultimately be about money - the F95 community is not. Here what matters is the content of our feedback and criticism. The devs are free to take it or leave it.
At the end of the day, people make choices and have to deal with the consequences. Developers are not immune to this, no matter how good their game might be, and trying to white knight for them (or stoke the flames of division) is pointless.
One side says the game sucks, the other says it's great, and soon enough people are at each other's throats trying to win imaginary points on the Internet. No matter which side you're on, if you engage with it, you're part of the problem.
I've often thought about getting into development myself, but the toxicity on this website is sometimes excessive. Can't we all just agree to disagree without resorting to name-calling and generalizations? Maybe it's a fool's errand on my part.
There are quite a few devs that don't want to be on this board but are here because their games keep getting jacked. Patreon is somewhat a charity site as the games you enjoy would not be made without backing. with most devs. barely getting by after paying for Massive computer upgrades buying Daz assets or licensing 3D programs they need to make their game. As most game developers would like to make a living off of this and can't. so they make updates when they can or feel like it I know I hate seeing games I had a hand in making on this site as that is lost income to me. I don't work for an EA or Ubisoft where I get my money no matter what. When you Pirate a game I worked on you are literally stealing money from my pocket
 

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Just my little one cent about.

I'm with, so I agree, all what karnage said above, so I won't make it long. A big 'thumb up' to you, mate.

Another matter now: why keeping on throwing flames against each other, instead of proposing something else, more inspired to constructive critics? It seems that common sense has left here since quite a pretty long time, I'm wondering why.

With best regards to all.
 
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