Ntr OR Harem

Ntr OR Harem

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Ambir

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Say I'm in a shooting/hack n' slash/fighter/otherwise action-based game. I don't want to be bogged down by fetishes I don't care about, or have my game suddenly turn into an dating simulator.
Ohh, I see! You know, I was thinking the exact same thing today. Do you think making the romance parts optionnal would help solve this kind of issues?
 

Chalker

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I forgot any kind of discussion or nuance is for soycucks, please forgive me incest harem-chads!
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Because the whole "ntr complexity" is such a meme tier joke at this point and it keeps getting parroted. It's quite literally adding another dude to fuck the protagonists chick(s) and people act like it's more sophisticated than that.

If anything, it's a easy trope uses by bad writers to evoke some sort of reaction from the audience.
 

E_O_N

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Hmm, I am surprised. Over 30% would go for ntr instead of a baseline dream men have.

I assume rating harem is easier than ntr. So might be even closer to 50/50.
That is a lot more for ntr than I thought.
 

Chalker

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Hmm, I am surprised. Over 30% would go for ntr instead of a baseline dream men have.

I assume rating harem is easier than ntr. So might be even closer to 50/50.
That is a lot more for ntr than I thought.
I would take the polls in this forum with a grain of salt, small sample and one has to ask what type of weirdos even engage in porn forums.
 
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E_O_N

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I would take the polls in this forum with a grain of salt, small sample and one has to ask what type of weirdos even engage in porn forums.
Fair enough.
 

Agul

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Because the whole "ntr complexity" is such a meme tier joke at this point and it keeps getting parroted. It's quite literally adding another dude to fuck the protagonists chick(s) and people act like it's more sophisticated than that.

If anything, it's a easy trope uses by bad writers to evoke some sort of reaction from the audience.
It depends on how it's done. I'll grant you that it's commonly lazy, but there really is some distinction from one kind of NTR to another and what people get out of it. It's only a meme because so many people are repulsed by it, they can't help but bury the threads in unintelligible responses.

Why would a bad writer use NTR for a reaction? It pleases nobody that way, practically a death sentence for their game.
 

nulnil

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Ohh, I see! You know, I was thinking the exact same thing today. Do you think making the romance parts optionnal would help solve this kind of issues?
I think romance doesn't really deserve a spot in action-based porn games. It's just not what I played the game for, and almost never ties into gameplay in an active way.
 
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Canto Forte

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You need a purpuse and a strong incentive via mindblowing cutscenes, in this game,
fantastic sex scenes of MC throbbing long hard and deep into thgis untouched bombshgell
we the players have been fighting our way through countless waves of gibbrish interactions or mindless hack and slash RNG.
 
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Chalker

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It depends on how it's done. I'll grant you that it's commonly lazy, but there really is some distinction from one kind of NTR to another and what people get out of it. It's only a meme because so many people are repulsed by it, they can't help but bury the threads in unintelligible responses.

Why would a bad writer use NTR for a reaction? It pleases nobody that way, practically a death sentence for their game.
Adding cheating / ntr is like adding death to a game, the amount of emotion a writer can get out of it all depends on his skill, but both are topics that pretty much anyone can emotionally relate to.

So, if a shit writer wants to get some sort of emotional reaction, they'll try to insert one of the two.
 

Canto Forte

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Most of our western NTR games around here feature actually a female protagonist players do not get to actually play for, who is a mindless whore and gets her harem or mindless bulls
incels who would never ever get pussy in a 1000 lifetimes if the whore bycicle of the galaxy had not sunk so low as to dunk her whole throat in their disgusting appendics.
I hate harem. but Im not much for NTR. I can deal with light NTR.
I like corruption, sharing, exhibition, role-playing, young&old, ugly&beauty and more.

usually in harem its just one guy and fuck them all. always the same milf, sister complex stuff and a young dude having a blast with some drama and stupid plot, and father is dead.

in ntr there can be many fetishes. so thats why I pick that one. as I like corrupting the girl to push her to the limits. do kinky stuff. but I dont like NTR, where the Mc is just watching his LI be stolen. not my cup of tea.
At least in a girl MC game you have some agency to steer the girl into inticing situations.
At least in a male MC game of harem you can pick and choose how you get the girls
and how they do about loving you and eachother.

NTR fkks you over with disgusting choices all the time.
 

nulnil

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You need a purpuse and a strong incentive via mindblowing cutscenes, in this game,
fantastic sex scenes of MC throbbing long hard and deep into thgis untouched bombshgell
we the players have been fighting our way through countless waves of gibbrish interactions or mindless hack and slash RNG.
I assume you're talking to me, Canto Forte.

Visual Novels are not games. They are less than even a choose-your-own-adventure book most of the time as well.

Also, I mentioned earlier I liked female protags because they star almost every action game where you can rape enemies back, and don't need dates to go fuck someone.
 

Canto Forte

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What do you think those times you meet and greet your ogre
who you want to get gaped by are supposed to be judging by AVN/game logic?!?
I assume you're talking to me, Canto Forte.

Visual Novels are not games. They are less than even a choose-your-own-adventure book most of the time as well.

Also, I mentioned earlier I liked female protags because they star almost every action game where you can rape enemies back, and don't need dates to go fuck someone.
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Agul

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Adding cheating / ntr is like adding death to a game, the amount of emotion a writer can get out of it all depends on his skill, but both are topics that pretty much anyone can emotionally relate to.

So, if a shit writer wants to get some sort of emotional reaction, they'll try to insert one of the two.
Dawg, in the context of porn games, what in the fuck are you talking about? Who adds NTR so people can emotionally relate to it if it isn't serving the interest of providing fap content?
 

E_O_N

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I hate harem. but Im not much for NTR. I can deal with light NTR.
I like corruption, sharing, exhibition, role-playing, young&old, ugly&beauty and more.

usually in harem its just one guy and fuck them all. always the same milf, sister complex stuff and a young dude having a blast with some drama and stupid plot, and father is dead.

in ntr there can be many fetishes. so thats why I pick that one. as I like corrupting the girl to push her to the limits. do kinky stuff. but I dont like NTR, where the Mc is just watching his LI be stolen. not my cup of tea.
The story so many devs recreate has nothing to do with the kink. But I have to agree that the dead father is boring since 2019.

But by the end it s what people make out of a story.
If you like corruption, harem games should be better for you, I assume. Because MC somehow corruptes his girls to accept each other and the fact that he cheats on them. Or everyone just accepts it, which would make the story garbage.

Either way, it needs 10x. more chadness to openly like ntr on f95 than harem.
Doesn t matter what you are into. Good for them to have that mental bizeps.
 
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Chalker

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Dawg, in the context of porn games, what in the fuck are you talking about? Who adds NTR so people can emotionally relate to it if it isn't serving the interest of providing fap content?
What is the point of a story if not to invoke an emotional response? Even if it is to accentuate the tittilation, which is an emotional response with in itself.
 
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Chalker

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its usually like this:
harem games offers most of the time 5 girls. some more some less.
to render and create a story to make a good "corruption" game where the MC can in a "believable" way corrupt a girl is close to none.
its superficial or just silly. or the MC is not likable, he's like a fuckboy. some naive conversation and the girl is nude and he fuck her throat.
for me a good corruption game is "our fate". with a MC that is slowly pushing her to do more daring stuff. unfortunately the game is abandoned.
another good game (also abandoned) is "Project Sage" the second version. this one is female protagonist. but I like it since it offer so many routes and choices. a good corruption game.
corruption is not strip the girl and fuck her in many different position and the next scene is anal and after that bdsm.
that just sex. corruption is the mind. the sex is the reward.
and harem games are usually just focusing on sex. and the mind is mostly the MC that is horny all the time.
Seems like you hate poorly executed harem games more than you hate the tag itself.
 
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Agul

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What is the point of a story if not to invoke an emotional response? Even if it is to accentuate the tittilation, which is an emotional response with in itself.
So why relate it to adding death to a plot generically, when adding NTR for the sake of getting an emotional response for getting off the NTR can be explained as, well shit, adding NTR for people who like NTR. Why frame it as something inherently cheap unless you find it so offensive you can't help but to think of it that way?
 

Canto Forte

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Most if not all fem MC games feature her getting railed inexplicably by the most disgussting assholes.

BEfore the most hienous act can occur, she prepares:
barfing in all the toilets,
licking up dirt,
feeling goosebumps of suffocating decay and uncanny death
every time they grope her,
they shout slurrs down her throat.

After months and years of barren disgusting updates,
the date when dev makes this slave of a woman
sit through the most painstaking torture of being molested
by a disgusting lump of chichen shit
is the date.

The date where the female MC finally gets the most sickening grose experience from that
whole VN.
I take it english is not your first language?
Sure ... enjoy your disgusting female MC games like Lara croft:
slave whore to the enemies. Happy barf gaming!
 
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