VN Ren'Py Completed Freeloading Family [v0.32] [FFCreations]

[jpostel]

Good progress on the story (pervert route) so far. @FFCreations, you have a new Patron.

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[FFCreations]

Good progress on the story (pervert route) so far. @FFCreations, you have a new Patron.

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Thanks, hope you enjoy each update!

 

[DemosthenesHPW]

Aren't different dialogues and different scenes example of differences in the outcome?

Yes, but good luck getting anyone to understand that, apparently. :\

 

[PhoenixFireeye]

I stated it that way because no matter what choices you make, or what route you try to take with those choices, the end result in the latter part of the update/episode is exactly the same. You click through and read it like a comic.

A lot of professional Japanese visual novels are like this for the first half of the game, and the different branches don't show up until you're halfway through the game. Then all the choices you make suddenly come into play and you find yourself on one of the multiple branches.

There are also Japanese visual novels that don't have branches at all. To be a visual novel just means that it's a story you read that has graphics and choices, but the choices don't have to make huge changes to the game. That's why on the

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there are tags for early branching routes, late branching routes, long common route, linear plot, meaningless choices, etc. There are tons of different kinds and styles of visual novels.

If you prefer visual novels with branches that you can tell early in the game, that's fine, I like those games too. But novels that don't have early branches, or any branches, doesn't mean they aren't novels. I've read clickable comics and this isn't one of them. I think this will be one with late branching routes and how long the common route will be is up to the author.

 

[FFCreations]

I stated it that way because no matter what choices you make, or what route you try to take with those choices, the end result in the latter part of the update/episode is exactly the same. You click through and read it like a comic.

On that point: I can't really call this a game anymore. I can't even call it a Visual Novel either, as a Visual Novel uses your choices/route to determine the final outcome. The best way to describe this creation would be to call it a Clickable Comic. You may get some different dialogues and scenes with your choices, but none of them matter in the least in the final result.

It's a real shame that with two games under your belt, or almost under your belt, that your writing has already become formulaic:

1. Every female character is a slut.
2. The MC is so pussified that calling them a Beta would be an extreme compliment.
3. As soon as the MC and the main love interest start to become close... BOOM! You're cucked, with no way to prevent it.

I dropped my support on Patreon for Vander like a hot rock when it happened in the other game. Unfortunately, this time I listened to you when you claimed it was all part of a bigger picture. It's part of the plot, it's part of the plot, it's part of the plot!

What did we get this update? More of the same, and you added insult to injury. Your choices may give you a few different scenes, but the end result is clicking through and watching the notorious lesbian bitch, who just cucked you the night before, end up being your first sexual contact in the game with intercrural sex.

I wish you the best of luck with your endeavors, I have a feeling you'll need it.

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said, visual novels are usually structured this way. And you say that the choices/route doesn't determine the final outcome...Well you haven't seen the final outcome yet.

Also V.A. Laurie was hired as a writer after v0.2(a bit into v0.3). So all the character you see in the game had already been established. This means what you said about V.A. Laurie having the same formula in both games is untrue since I was the one who made "every female character a slut".

Also I appreciate you giving criticism but in the future I'd recommend not sounding so aggressive when giving it. It's only a game and a FREE game at that, so there's no reason for you to be so angry. You can just delete it and move on to another game.

 

[DemosthenesHPW]

True that. Meanwhile, keep up the good work @FFCreations

Realizing that the game was stopping after Truth or Dare was heartbreaking. Will the next update include "try tomorrow"? If so, can't wait and if I can ever get a job again (apparently being QA for a call center is highly specialized so I have to branch out after my old job), definitely gonna have to drop you a few bucks.

 

[armion82]

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said, visual novels are usually structured this way. And you say that the choices/route doesn't determine the final outcome...Well you haven't seen the final outcome yet.

Also V.A. Laurie was hired as a writer after v0.2(a bit into v0.3). So all the character you see in the game had already been established. This means what you said about V.A. Laurie having the same formula in both games is untrue since I was the one who made "every female character a slut".

Also I appreciate you giving criticism but in the future I'd recommend not sounding so aggressive when giving it. It's only a game and a FREE game at that, so there's no reason for you to be so angry. You can just delete it and move on to another game.

I have a question.Are all girls realy sluts or some of them just act that way?
BTW smart move in 0.5.1 to add that scene with MelodyIt's always a good idea to give the MC alternative if you planning to add scenes with MC only watching how others have sex.
I think some of the frustration in fans comes because once again in a game there is a tsundere girl.It's realy every other game that have someone like that.I have no idea why no one leave her to be the evil bitch and instead go to change her to the girl who love MC the most.

 

[V.A. Laurie]

I stated it that way because no matter what choices you make, or what route you try to take with those choices, the end result in the latter part of the update/episode is exactly the same. You click through and read it like a comic.

On that point: I can't really call this a game anymore. I can't even call it a Visual Novel either, as a Visual Novel uses your choices/route to determine the final outcome. The best way to describe this creation would be to call it a Clickable Comic. You may get some different dialogues and scenes with your choices, but none of them matter in the least in the final result.

It's a real shame that with two games under your belt, or almost under your belt, that your writing has already become formulaic:

1. Every female character is a slut.
2. The MC is so pussified that calling them a Beta would be an extreme compliment.
3. As soon as the MC and the main love interest start to become close... BOOM! You're cucked, with no way to prevent it.

I dropped my support on Patreon for Vander like a hot rock when it happened in the other game. Unfortunately, this time I listened to you when you claimed it was all part of a bigger picture. It's part of the plot, it's part of the plot, it's part of the plot!

What did we get this update? More of the same, and you added insult to injury. Your choices may give you a few different scenes, but the end result is clicking through and watching the notorious lesbian bitch, who just cucked you the night before, end up being your first sexual contact in the game with intercrural sex.

I wish you the best of luck with your endeavors, I have a feeling you'll need it.

Yeah I don't know where the anger is coming from. This is a visual novel. It has a story and the choices are here to customize the experience.

And I wish you luck as well. I believe you're a writer also, and I can't say I am impressed by your game Sister,Sister,Sister. has some interesting concepts, but it's... not great. At the very least I see you doing editing on the game.

I have a writers group on my discord if you want to join. Perhaps instead of being a douche bag to me for pretty much no reason at all, we can chat on occasion and help each other build better games.

 

[FFCreations]

I have a question.Are all girls realy sluts or some of them just act that way?
BTW smart move in 0.5.1 to add that scene with MelodyIt's always a good idea to give the MC alternative if you planning to add scenes with MC only watching how others have sex.
I think some of the frustration in fans comes because once again in a game there is a tsundere girl.It's realy every other game that have someone like that.I have no idea why no one leave her to be the evil bitch and instead go to change her to the girl who love MC the most.

Not all girls are really sluts. It was just that how he perceived it (and I can see why). I'd like to think that each girl have a deeper personality than it seems at first glance.

 

[jaydem]

Not all girls are really sluts. It was just that how he perceived it (and I can see why). I'd like to think that each girl have a deeper personality than it seems at first glance.

@FFCreations
I'm in agreement with you Brother, Sluts bang around with everyone, and as often as they can. Even if it means they flaunt the fact, or leading to particular fetish, that not many (myself included) what to experience.
In this case, I see them as sexually active, not sluts. We're not having to watch them with multiple partners, and it's evident that, the MC is the main source of attraction for them. So when the story starts fleshing more out, and the girls will then start to have more personalities and individualism. Mainly toward the MC, peeps will have a better feel and opinion of the girls as the game moves forward.
You guys are doing great so far Brother, I can't wait till we get more in....especially some cock/ pussy action with whomever...Lol!! to get the ball rolling......My vote would be for sis, but anyone at this point for some good fapping, while we wait for more story building.

Any way you guys are awesome......Thanks so much, for your game Brothers...................Peace!!

 

[armion82]

@FFCreations
I'm in agreement with you Brother, Sluts bang around with everyone, and as often as they can. Even if it means they flaunt the fact, or leading to particular fetish, that not many (myself included) what to experience.
In this case, I see them as sexually active, not sluts. We're not having to watch them with multiple partners, and it's evident that, the MC is the main source of attraction for them. So when the story starts fleshing more out, and the girls will then start to have more personalities and individualism. Mainly toward the MC, peeps will have a better feel and opinion of the girls as the game moves forward.
You guys are doing great so far Brother, I can't wait till we get more in....especially some cock/ pussy action with whomever...Lol!! to get the ball rolling......My vote would be for sis, but anyone at this point for some good fapping, while we wait for more story building.

Any way you guys are awesome......Thanks so much, for your game Brothers...................Peace!!

I hope we move from peeps to something more educationalIt's already 0.6,voyerism is nice but we should already past that point and MC must be more active.We don't want to wait for 0.10-0.11 before he even participate in some of the activities.

 

[jaydem]

I hope we move from peeps to something more educationalIt's already 0.6,voyerism is nice but we should already past that point and MC must be more active.We don't want to wait for 0.10-0.11 before he even participate in some of the activities.

My apologies Brother, or should I say my esteemed colleagues....:angel:...I agree with what you are saying, as I'm ready for some action too. I was a little hopeful this last one, but was let down a little by the CamelToe slide instead. I'll remain positive that the next update, will start to get some good stuff, rather than more tease.
Anyway, sorry about the peeps thing Brother, I'll try to keep that in mind next time...............Peace!!

 

[PhoenixFireeye]

Not all girls are really sluts. It was just that how he perceived it (and I can see why). I'd like to think that each girl have a deeper personality than it seems at first glance.

The way I see it, none of the girls are sluts. Most are very flirty, some tease a lot (Melody especially), and others are sexually active with specific kinks (teacher (dom/sub) and melody (exhibitionism)). It has been mentioned that the teacher is a slut (she pursues the new male students) but we don't see any of that.

 

[armion82]

My apologies Brother, or should I say my esteemed colleagues....:angel:...I agree with what you are saying, as I'm ready for some action too. I was a little hopeful this last one, but was let down a little by the CamelToe slide instead. I'll remain positive that the next update, will start to get some good stuff, rather than more tease.
Anyway, sorry about the peeps thing Brother, I'll try to keep that in mind next time...............Peace!!

We can agree we have a good feeling for 0.7.
After all even DmD 0.0.7 have some juicy stuff for father-HJ from Elena and F can touch and lick her nipples.

 

[Burt Reynolds Mustache]

Yeah calling them sluts is probably a bit much, though, I mean Melody kinda has that vibe for sure.

I do think DeUglyOne's frustration might have been in not having a follow-up scene with Alice really, probably still my one major complaint this update (her bowing out of Truth or Dare) still I'm in to see where we go next. I mean, next update kinda HAS to be Alice centric at this point, and should thus be pretty important in the grand scheme of things. I wish you both luck.

 

[jackkane]

noooookerFace::FeelsBadMan:ensive::'(

we can fix her brother

 

[armion82]

Yeah calling them sluts is probably a bit much, though, I mean Melody kinda has that vibe for sure.

I do think DeUglyOne's frustration might have been in not having a follow-up scene with Alice really, probably still my one major complaint this update (her bowing out of Truth or Dare) still I'm in to see where we go next. I mean, next update kinda HAS to be Alice centric at this point, and should thus be pretty important in the grand scheme of things. I wish you both luck.

In other game 0.7 was realy important for Alice-I'm talking about BB.In DoD ep.8 was the one.For most games 0.7-0.8 is center piece.Unless the game will end at 0.10 of course.In that case you realy need to speed the things.But with this game I don't have the feeling like API that will end soon.Maybe next year around 0.15.

 

[Rintal]

My feelings are that the game has just begun. And your judgments are as if it"s already close to the culmination.

 

[armion82]

My feelings are that the game has just begun. And your judgments are as if it"s already close to the culmination.

For me the problem is we don't have idea how big will be the game.Will I surprise you if I tell you that 3/4 of the games didn't reach update 10?Most players are afraid that the game start good but like many more is possible to not even bring sex for MC before dissapear.Of course we all hope this game to be one of the few that will pass that mark,but will be better if the creator can say at least +/-5 updates the length of the game.If we aiming for something like 10-12 updates we already late in content for MC.If we talking for something like 15 we still have time,but not too much.It will be another story if is 20+ updates.

 

[Rintal]

For me the problem is we don't have idea how big will be the game.

Well, for me it's not a problem at all. I do not care, to be precise. There are games where H-scenes appear at the beginning and games that teasing by slow seduction or corruption. I like the second more. Some people like the first. It's a matter of taste. Everyone has their own.