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MrDefault

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FACEPALM... that's not how it works... People support because they want the content of the creator and they want the content to continue(as if they are hiring the creator for it). You don't support so you can DEMAND an 'update'. People who support these creators trust the creators' OWN pace and shouldn't demand for INSTANT content(unless the creator is stalling ofc.). "invest money receive product easy rule." that way you get SHIT QUALITY-RUSHED content. this is not the same as buying a game. the creator is LITERALLY working on it. don't be stupid. The person is working alone and pushing out high quality content. What grimhelm is doing is not easy. he or she doesnt make the game out of thin air. Time and effort is needed for art, animation and coding.. So dont comment that demanding bull shit
Same thing as Dayz, 7 days to die, PUBG, Rust. Don't tell me because it is called Patreon devs can suck money from their patreons and go to vacation... If getting 1 minor patch after 3 months is not stalling I dont know what you consider stalling maybe 1 minor patch after 2 years or is it still not enough? Quality content? Where? I dont see any content at all! I assume those new moans are high quality for you. It is not like devs are poor, starving artists... Look at Summertimesaga. Let's say 80% goes for making game and rest is for creator. With 1,5k he can live in any Eastern european country like Trump. You said "People support because they want the content of the creator and they want the content to continue" but what when content does not continue or it is very small? "That is okay it is early access, dummy" That is not good excuse.
 

Bas134

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well i game over'ed at the same exact spot at the preview and i got it
Yeah it's not problem to get the new game-over, but I just wanted to say that F1 doesn't work for me and wanted to ask if it is just for me or also another players.
 

MrDefault

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Yeah it's not problem to get the new game-over, but I just wanted to say that F1 doesn't work for me and wanted to ask if it is just for me or also another players.
So again how do you have to die to get new scene?
 

yoyomistro

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Yeah but people pay for game. He can make this game for 20 years but he shouldnt ask us for support. We invest money we receive product easy rule.
He's clearly said that Patreon is just so he can spend more time on developing the game instead of having to work part-time jobs while doing it. His reward structure does not promise monthly releases, and like @156_163_146_167 said, he's probably done a lot more than is included in this release. It's up to people to make the choice whether to support him or not with the structure he's outlined, he's not breaking any promises or scamming anyone. He had already been working on the game for a while before he even setup a Patreon page, so that shows how much work goes into something like this.

Same thing as Dayz, 7 days to die, PUBG, Rust. Don't tell me because it is called Patreon devs can suck money from their patreons and go to vacation... If getting 1 minor patch after 3 months is not stalling I dont know what you consider stalling maybe 1 minor patch after 2 years or is it still not enough? Quality content? Where? I dont see any content at all! I assume those new moans are high quality for you. It is not like devs are poor, starving artists... Look at Summertimesaga. Let's say 80% goes for making game and rest is for creator. With 1,5k he can live in any Eastern european country like Trump. You said "People support because they want the content of the creator and they want the content to continue" but what when content does not continue or it is very small? "That is okay it is early access, dummy" That is not good excuse.
Lol not everyone lives in Lithuania or Belarus... even some African countries are more expensive to live in for a decent standard of living than Eastern Europe. And like @bloodmane and I have said, he's one guy putting out a top tier product, and Patreon is a tip jar where you can support him as he works on the product, not pay for the product itself. He works his ass off, and this game frankly looks even better than his previous ones. You don't have to support him if you don't want to, but the guy has a track record and we know what we're getting with him.
 

MrDefault

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He's clearly said they Patreon is just so he can spend more time on developing the game instead of having to work part-time jobs while doing it. His reward structure does not promise monthly releases, and like @156_163_146_167 said, he's probably done a lot more than is included in this release. It's up to people to make the choice whether to support him or not with the structure he's outlined, he's not breaking any promises or scamming anyone. He had already been working on the game for a while before he even setup a Patreon page, so that shows how much work goes into something like this.



Lol not everyone lives in Lithuania or Belarus... even some African countries are more expensive to live in for a decent standard of living than Eastern Europe. And like @bloodmane and I have said, he's one guy putting out a top tier product, and Patreon is a tip jar where you can support him as he works on the product, not pay for the product itself. He works his ass off, and this game frankly looks even better than his previous ones. You don't have to support him if you don't want to, but the guy has a track record and we know what we're getting with him.
Okay. Quarrel is pointless. We have got different opinion about patreon so let us stop this meaningless fight.
 

bloodmane

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He's clearly said they Patreon is just so he can spend more time on developing the game instead of having to work part-time jobs while doing it. His reward structure does not promise monthly releases, and like @156_163_146_167 said, he's probably done a lot more than is included in this release. It's up to people to make the choice whether to support him or not with the structure he's outlined, he's not breaking any promises or scamming anyone. He had already been working on the game for a while before he even setup a Patreon page, so that shows how much work goes into something like this.



Lol not everyone lives in Lithuania or Belarus... even some African countries are more expensive to live in for a decent standard of living than Eastern Europe. And like @bloodmane and I have said, he's one guy putting out a top tier product, and Patreon is a tip jar where you can support him as he works on the product, not pay for the product itself. He works his ass off, and this game frankly looks even better than his previous ones. You don't have to support him if you don't want to, but the guy has a track record and we know what we're getting with him.
that default guy didnt get it at all. even all the things i explained. and you explained..... these creators are still people they are not machines that work 24/7.. they have to take a break, they have to stop and think "hmmm whats a good position for this next enemy" or "what should the next stage look like" or something like that. they dont just *get paid* and then *boom* content. no. as ive said these kind of quality games doesn't come out of thin air.. he needs to understand that patreon is not a place where you buy content. you SUPPORT the creator. thats why it is called "SUPPORT", not hire, not buy, not contract or whatnot. this should be understood because if people still continue to misunderstood the concept then they wouldnt see what it is for....

and also quarrel is really pointless if you dont even take time to understand the argument thrown at you. he didnt even understand half the things i said. "we have different opinion about patreon" no. you just dont get how patreon works. we do. you dont.

"People support because they want the content of the creator and they want the content to continue" but what when content does not continue or it is very small? "That is okay it is early access, dummy" That is not good excuse.
him/her not showing you what you want every fuckin month doesn't mean he or she stopped working on it.


If getting 1 minor patch after 3 months is not stalling I dont know what you consider stalling maybe 1 minor patch after 2 years or is it still not enough? Quality content? Where? I dont see any content at all! I assume those new moans are high quality for you.
look at the pattern of grim's creations! look at grim's wordpress. look at it. you see s/he doesn't post EVERY FUCKIN month to just please impatient people like you. he/she didn't promise to show you another demo in 3 months. s/he just wanted to show the new game over that's it. he/she always show random sneak peeks on his/her game every once in a while, while he/she is working on it. I suggest you read and understand the comments of the people you reply to. WE ALREADY SAID he is one PERSON making the game. with a good art and smooth animation and one man coding it all. Do you have any idea, ANY IDEA, on how hard to code and animate smoothly, also one man on map design and map creation, skills whatnot ... on your own? this SHIT takes time. he didn't promise anything so he/she isn't stalling... one person doing it all, so it is expected for it to take some time before a demo... game development on your own is not easy. so quit bitching.

what im saying about quality content is the whole game itself(the quality of this animations and art, the smoothness of the game).... You clearly did not understand what i said.
 

MrDefault

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that default guy didnt get it at all. even all the things i explained. and you explained..... these creators are still people they are not machines that work 24/7.. they have to take a break, they have to stop and think "hmmm whats a good position for this next enemy" or "what should the next stage look like" or something like that. they dont just *get paid* and then *boom* content. no. as ive said these kind of quality games doesn't come out of thin air.. he needs to understand that patreon is not a place where you buy content. you SUPPORT the creator. thats why it is called "SUPPORT", not hire, not buy, not contract or whatnot. this should be understood because if people still continue to misunderstood the concept then they wouldnt see what it is for....

and also quarrel is really pointless if you dont even take time to understand the argument thrown at you. he didnt even understand half the things i said. "we have different opinion about patreon" no. you just dont get how patreon works. we do. you dont.



him/her not showing you what you want every fuckin month doesn't mean he or she stopped working on it.




look at the pattern of grim's creations! look at grim's wordpress. look at it. you see s/he doesn't post EVERY FUCKIN month to just please impatient people like you. he/she didn't promise to show you another demo in 3 months. s/he just wanted to show the new game over that's it. he/she always show random sneak peeks on his/her game every once in a while, while he/she is working on it. I suggest you read and understand the comments of the people you reply to. WE ALREADY SAID he is one PERSON making the game. with a good art and smooth animation and one man coding it all. Do you have any idea, ANY IDEA, on how hard to code and animate smoothly, also one man on map design and map creation, skills whatnot ... on your own? this SHIT takes time. he didn't promise anything so he/she isn't stalling... one person doing it all, so it is expected for it to take some time before a demo... game development on your own is not easy. so quit bitching.

what im saying about quality content is the whole game itself(the quality of this animations and art, the smoothness of the game).... You clearly did not understand what i said.
If you readed everything you would know I wont continue this topic. Drop it. Let it go:)
 

johndoe1545

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Just two, if you mean the end screen with tentacles. Actual monster sex scenes are around 10 with the MC and 3 or 4 monster-on-monster.
na i cant get the second gameover then... the previous gallery i unlocked with f1 cheat
 
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dd209

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na i cant get the second gameover then... the previous gallery i unlocked with f1 cheat
It should be unlocked in my save? f1 doesn't work in this build. I got it from dying, try getting gameover in the later rooms with the high-level monsters.
 

johndoe1545

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It should be unlocked in my save? f1 doesn't work in this build. I got it from dying, try getting gameover in the later rooms with the high-level monsters.
get it... it seems that your save load into the one before getting gameover
 

156_163_146_167

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I do get where you're coming from, @MrDefault. With the abundance of h-games on Patreon that fail to deliver for months or even years. Cough Malise and the Machine, cough, cough.

But by now I've learned not to expect frequent updates from Grimhelm based on their previous work. They do what they do, and they release quality content when it's done. I don't feel the need to support him on Patreon right away if I can't or don't feel like it.
 
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