Corambis

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Totally agree with you. Eric is an asshole, but as you know every game must have not only protagonist but also an antagonist, and Eric was him. When we finally kill him or sell to sex slavery, the game became bored. Because there is no competition. Right after Eric is gone the game transform frome novel to in some kinde "click and point" arcade where we batter the left mouse button. In erlier updates we play the game with two main goals, to fuck the family members and not to get in army camp. And now its just stupid clicking for CG erotic pictures viewing.
I agree that Eric was removed a little bit erlier then he must be.
No, not every game does. This is an incest game, so if you're looking for some conflict or something to overcome, there's all the challenge you need. How do you convince family members to go against society and their own initial feelings and have sex with you? The "antagonist" is the incest taboo itself, added on top of the difficulty in seducing any girl in the first place. That's not to say that you can't have an antagonist if you want one, but even without incest you don't need that. You just need a good story, and some challenges to overcome. Believe it or not, challenges can come in all types, and not just some guy that is trying and succeeding to have sex with your family.
 

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So I've got a few questions about this whole discussion.

1. When exactly does this game have BDSM? Is it the spanking? Alice punishing Max and Lisa for having sex?

2. When is there non-consensual sex?

Not a question, but I'm sure there's many people playing this game that don't care for the story and just want to see sexual content. There's also probably a lot of people for whom incest is just having sex with family members and nothing more.
Oh I take it you missed the convo where Alice blackmails Lisa and Max with the vid she made of them having anal sex in a way it looks like vaginal sex then tells them they have to play with her or Max goes to camp, really you missed that convo.
This is blackmail for sex and can and would be charge as rape in criminal court, it does not mater if Lisa and Max starts to like it it is still rape and I don't do rape, if it was Max doing the blackmail for sex this VN would be in the trashcan but other than the 2 forced sex scenes at night with Alice I have no contact with her. If in the future update that it is need to progress the story I will but only as long as it is needed.

I hope you never have someone close to you who gets rape and have to go through what comes after.
 

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No, not every game does. This is an incest game, so if you're looking for some conflict or something to overcome, there's all the challenge you need. How do you convince family members to go against society and their own initial feelings and have sex with you? The "antagonist" is the incest taboo itself, added on top of the difficulty in seducing any girl in the first place. That's not to say that you can't have an antagonist if you want one, but even without incest you don't need that. You just need a good story, and some challenges to overcome. Believe it or not, challenges can come in all types, and not just some guy that is trying and succeeding to have sex with your family.
THANK YOU! Yes. This is a porn game. Many people (me included) just want to see sexual content. People don't want an obstacle in their way to fucking the whole family. That's the whole reason patreons wanted Eric gone from the game. I can say for certain that including Eric back in the game will not improve my enjoyment at all.
 

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Oh I take it you missed the convo where Alice blackmails Lisa and Max with the vid she made of them having anal sex in a way it looks like vaginal sex then tells them they have to play with her or Max goes to camp, really you missed that convo.
This is blackmail for sex and can and would be charge as rape in criminal court, it does not mater if Lisa and Max starts to like it it is still rape and I don't do rape, if it was Max doing the blackmail for sex this VN would be in the trashcan but other than the 2 forced sex scenes at night with Alice I have no contact with her. If in the future update that it is need to progress the story I will but only as long as it is needed.

I hope you never have someone close to you who gets rape and have to go through what comes after.
No need to get angry, I don't want to start a war with anyone, nor do I think you will. I just can't keep track of every conversation in the game and wanted to refresh my memory.
 

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No, not every game does. This is an incest game, so if you're looking for some conflict or something to overcome, there's all the challenge you need. How do you convince family members to go against society and their own initial feelings and have sex with you? The "antagonist" is the incest taboo itself, added on top of the difficulty in seducing any girl in the first place. That's not to say that you can't have an antagonist if you want one, but even without incest you don't need that. You just need a good story, and some challenges to overcome. Believe it or not, challenges can come in all types, and not just some guy that is trying and succeeding to have sex with your family.
I disagree. What kind of challenge is seducing anyone in a harem game? It's something you have by definition and it's not even possible to not get that. Maybe in a game with amazing writing and 1 dateable female that would be incredible realistic it would be hard but in harem games there is no tension nor challenge. In fact even tabbo doesn't exist in vast majority of them. Sometimes Lisa can mention that Max is her brother so she can't give him her virginity so he can fuck her ass instead but I wouldn't call that breaking a tabbo
 

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I agree with everyone saying that DS doesn't know how to write an incest game, but I also think that he doesn't have a clue about BDSM either. We've yet to see any good BDSM being played out. So far all it's been so far is;

Alice/Kate: "I'm in control."
Max: "Okay"

That's barely even submission. And how on Earth does a sub magically turn into a dom, then straight back to a sub?

Also, from what we've seen from mum, there's no real BDSM in play. From what we seen in the movie all she gets is a light spanking with a ruler. I don't know about you, but when I think about BDSM I think of leather, being chained up, whips, torture, pretty much ZERO fucking etc. Am I wrong?
BDSM and how it relates to this none game but VN now because you no longer have any choice in the mater.
BDSM = bondage, discipline, dominance and submission, sadomasochism.

Bondage, what Eric does to Ann, Kira bondage pics and Ann in the movie #2.
Discipline = all the spanking in the game.
Dominance = What Eric did to Ann and what Kate does to Alice and now Alice does to Lisa and Max through blackmail.
Submission = What Ann dose for Eric and what Lisa does for Max and now Alice through blackmail.

Every element of BDSM is now in this VN.
 
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Everyone has their particular kink so DS has exactly 0% chance of pleasing everyone. That said, I don't really think that the fine points of how he is playing out the various fetishes here are his primary failing. His premise started strong and had elements I loved and those I hated, creating pretty decent drama and thematic elements. In other words it was not only hot it was interesting but at this point the story is just pedantic and frankly boring. No matter how good his renders are hot 3d models only go so far. Its pretty clear DS has nearly zero enthusiasm for this project other than as a cash cow and it has really has shown in writing for the the last half-dozen releases or so.
 
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No, not every game does. This is an incest game, so if you're looking for some conflict or something to overcome, there's all the challenge you need. How do you convince family members to go against society and their own initial feelings and have sex with you? The "antagonist" is the incest taboo itself, added on top of the difficulty in seducing any girl in the first place. That's not to say that you can't have an antagonist if you want one, but even without incest you don't need that. You just need a good story, and some challenges to overcome. Believe it or not, challenges can come in all types, and not just some guy that is trying and succeeding to have sex with your family.
I agree with you, but since we don't have an interesting storyline, or some mini games for diversity, and multiples answer options which will guide us to new sex scenes like in japan eroge (becous all unswer in BB are lead us to scenes anyway), the only thing that we can count on is an powerfull antagonist. The game must be interesting.
 

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I agree with you, but since we don't have an interesting storyline, or some mini games for diversity, and multiples answer options which will guide us to new sex scenes like in japan eroge (becous all unswer in BB are lead us to scenes anyway), the only thing that we can count on is an powerfull antagonist. The game must be interesting.
The game is interesting enough for me. I like the sexual scenes and they keep me interested in the game. I can say that I don't need an antagonist in this game to make it interesting.
 

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Eric Eric..why is everyone.....including me...the very first time i played Big-Brother..that's because i didn't take the time to take full advantage of the game and what it had to offer....the 2nd time i played it...i made Eric my lap dog....Ann ( mom ) was the only person that he was able to have sex with until the pills and then he was just there...

I have 6 different versions of the game saved...and sadly not once there was a incest part of the game, it's more based on Max ( son ) sexual obsession...this game is more based on abuse or rape of the females in the house...." not once in the game have any female agreed to have sex or perform some kind of sexual act with ( Max ) without some kind of manipulation"....we each have our own ideological beliefs on what Big-Brother game might be...Like i always say to each his own!
 
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Apisoh

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Max and Lisa both have cell phones and can take vids of Alice but no it wont happen because DS is shit on writing the story, there used to be since to the game but now there is no since to it but Alice dom'ing it over everyone.
Wasn't there a convo where Max decides it's better to bide his time and play along since he's kinda getting what he wanted? I assume there'll be more on that later, where he gets to turn the table or at least reach an equal footing (mutually assured destruction and all that).


Alice became the girl that DS focused on as the one to relieve all of the pent up sexual frustration in the game. It really should have been Olivia or some non-family member who had been introduced early in the game. It just ended up cheapening the character and resulted in a lot of forced and awkward interactions.
Yeah, her story up until Kate was very good. There were 4 girls who didn't know about the others and each had different elements to it. Alice and Ann stories were bound to collide because of the Lounge but I feel like throwing Lisa was the wrong move. Hindsight is 20/20, of course, but not only we could have gotten to the same place with Alice instead of Lisa but that move also isolated Kira, which would have been a great sex ed teacher, perhaps even coming up with something outside the house for a change of scenery as well as avoiding having to explain why they're not caught.

Don't get me wrong, I like all the sex scenes in the game but I can't help feeling the only good scene involving Lisa and Alice is when performing for the webcam, and even then I still hope Alice will eventually join them, but since she doesn't do it when it's Kate I'm not gonna hold my breath for that...
 
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