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We don't really know if Eric is gone for good, 1 way he is a slave another way is all of his stuff is gone - Now I ask why would the goon's take his stuff instead of just kidnapping him, he may have seen the trap and ran.

We just don't know at this time if he is gone for good or not.
If I'm remembering correctly the reason he was hiding out was because he stole something from the wrong people. Entirely possible once you call the goon's in they took all his stuff because they wanted to check if he'd hidden whatever it was amongst the stuff.
 

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If I'm remembering correctly the reason he was hiding out was because he stole something from the wrong people. Entirely possible once you call the goon's in they took all his stuff because they wanted to check if he'd hidden whatever it was amongst the stuff.
See that is the point we don't know what happen to Eric and he may make a return.

I tell you what, if he does come back I will do everything in Max's power to get rid of him again.
 

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Good points... i didn't really think of this build as Alpha, more like a halfway beta. Thus my concern for the thin content.
I mean if Eric is already gone with most branches suggesting it's "for good", then it's quite hard to make him return in some way. So that's a major character gone already..in Alpha... unless if they reset his storyline completely.
Same goes for some other characters like Alex(who could have been Lisa's boyfriend->so a major character) or Olivia's branch with the Lisa-Max Boyfriend path. Again hard to get them back without altering serious decisions/dialogues. Though not impossible.
But anyway, my main point was focusing on the visual elements, and even if this is an early stage(even earlier than i thought), and so many scenes have been setup, why not add more renders/frames to make the game more interesting and the potential customers more invested in your story?
Unless if they already DID more frames, and are just planing on releasing them gradualy. Which would make more sense to keep the patrons paying and the fanbase hooked and eager for each new patch.
In traditional game development...
Pre-Alpha = Tech Demo
Alpha = Building phase with incomplete content and features
Beta = Feature and content complete. Undergoing polish, testing, bug-fixing, balancing, etc.
Gold = Final release

Design/business models such as Day1-DLC, Early Access and CrowdFunding have skewed the usage of these terms a bit but from a production standpoint, they remain relevant. The main difference is that a developer (especially indies) is now more likely to label an internal build as an "alpha" and a public build as a "beta" but since these builds are released frequently and in an iterative developmental state, they would still be considered as "alpha" by traditional measures.... If that makes sense.

For BB, a true Beta would be a build which has all "opportunities" implemented and none of those "You've reached the end of this opportunity in this version of the game" messages.

If I'm remembering correctly the reason he was hiding out was because he stole something from the wrong people. Entirely possible once you call the goon's in they took all his stuff because they wanted to check if he'd hidden whatever it was amongst the stuff.
I was under the impression that Eric had been visited by "cleaners", never to return once that path has been selected. All of his stuff disappears for both the unknown enemies and Kate's mom solutions. Only difference being that we are told more explicitly about his fate if Kate's mom takes him.

That leaves what I call the "Eric as a pawn" route which is currently incomplete but hints at being able to exchange access to Alice for Eric's help in gaining consensual sex with Ann. If this ends up being the sole route to either banging Ann or getting extra special private punishment, it will have major implications and drive people apeshit. Granted, there will probably be ways (pills) to keep Eric from actually getting to Alice after making the deal but it's anyone's guess as to how the path will actually play out.
 
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Eric is not coming back....If there is any more content from him then it will be added to the scenes before he gets sent packing.
He didn't go through all the trouble of making two ways to get rid of Eric to appease his haters only to bring him back and piss them all off again!

So if you like Eric content and the NTR angle...Just keep Eric around, see him have fun with everyone and never see the content that involves Max actually getting some!
 

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Eric is not coming back....If there is any more content from him then it will be added to the scenes before he gets sent packing.
He didn't go through all the trouble of making two ways to get rid of Eric to appease his haters only to bring him back and piss them all off again!

So if you like Eric content and the NTR angle...Just keep Eric around, see him have fun with everyone and never see the content that involves Max actually getting some!
Yep, that should be the case. Make it completely optional if possible
 
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Wow, ntr haters vs ¿ntr lovers?. This shit got hot in the last few days. It is funny because ntr haters still dont get it. It is not about whether if eric should be part of the game or not, it is about open game, multiple path, choises with consequences. If you dont like eric good, get rid of him, you can choose to do that. Even if DS make more eric content why would you care?, you got rid of him remember? DS is not forcing you to see the new eric content (if any). You already had the chance to get rid of him. Do you get what I am saying ntr haters? Do you get why your hate for eric new content nothing you should be worry about?
 

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Wow, ntr haters vs ¿ntr lovers?. This shit got hot in the last few days. It is funny because ntr haters still dont get it. It is not about whether if eric should be part of the game or not, it is about open game, multiple path, choises with consequences. If you dont like eric good, get rid of him, you can choose to do that. Even if DS make more eric content why would you care?, you got rid of him remember? DS is not forcing you to see the new eric content (if any). You already had the chance to get rid of him. Do you get what I am saying ntr haters? Do you get why your hate for eric new content nothing you should be worry about?
I guess you didn't read the few posts where the NTR side wanted Eric to magically return after being sent packing!
AFAIAC He can add all the Eric content he wants for those who love watching eric's sex life while the MC is left to whack off at all the sex he doesn't get for those who like watching Eric and kept him around.
If Eric shows back up in a future version after I have sent him away then that version better also feature a gun and bullets so I can put Eric out of the game permanently!

He served no purpose other than to make you grind away the weeks until a path to remove him was made and waste a month or two of patronage hoping to get some sex AS MAX only to find out your money went towards getting Eric's jollies off!

I will point out that never once did DS promise NTR in his list of game features...
FETISHES, PLANNED SEXUAL CONTENT:
  • Incest (son/mother, brother/sisters, etc.)
  • Anal
  • Lesbian
  • Voyeurism
  • Exhibitionism
  • Group sex (MMF, MFF and more)
  • BDSM (spanking, bondage, etc
Me thinks you might be better served finding a game that is suited to that particular kink.
The only NTR that should exist in a game revolving around and mostly advertised as Incest is having Eric watch Max Cuck him with Anne, and any other woman Eric has set his eyes on.
 

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So business as usual.
Kinda what you have to expect when 100% of the content is split between two paths that never cross or involve a situation that no longer exists for a majority of the players.

He could make an update that added A GAME'S worth of content if he just merged the branches so people on one path could then play to see all the stuff they missed because it was on a separate branch!
 

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Wow, ntr haters vs ¿ntr lovers?. This shit got hot in the last few days. It is funny because ntr haters still dont get it. It is not about whether if eric should be part of the game or not, it is about open game, multiple path, choises with consequences. If you dont like eric good, get rid of him, you can choose to do that. Even if DS make more eric content why would you care?, you got rid of him remember? DS is not forcing you to see the new eric content (if any). You already had the chance to get rid of him. Do you get what I am saying ntr haters? Do you get why your hate for eric new content nothing you should be worry about?
Because his updates already small even without Eric content. If he puts some on that too his updates getting even smaller for the majority. Its a lose-lose situation for him really. His last update was the most succesful and he is well aware
 

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I guess you didn't read the few posts where the NTR side wanted Eric to magically return after being sent packing!
AFAIAC He can add all the Eric content he wants for those who love watching eric's sex life while the MC is left to whack off at all the sex he doesn't get for those who like watching Eric and kept him around.
If Eric shows back up in a future version after I have sent him away then that version better also feature a gun and bullets so I can put Eric out of the game permanently!

He served no purpose other than to make you grind away the weeks until a path to remove him was made and waste a month or two of patronage hoping to get some sex AS MAX only to find out your money went towards getting Eric's jollies off!

I will point out that never once did DS promise NTR in his list of game features...

Me thinks you might be better served finding a game that is suited to that particular kink.
The only NTR that should exist in a game revolving around and mostly advertised as Incest is having Eric watch Max Cuck him with Anne, and any other woman Eric has set his eyes on.
Eric doesnt need to return, he is still in the house on the friends with eric path, and my prediction is than when he finish to satisfice you all with his linear path of non-eric, he will return to do the other path, and maybe you can get rid of him in friends with eric's path also. Having just one path doesnt add replayability to the game. It's like reading a comic book. Also DS didnt promise ntr because, by definition, ntr happens if you have a romantic relation with the person. In this contest, max is the son and also he doesnt have a romantic relation with any of the characters at the beginning of the game.
 
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Ok so here's a topic for discussion.
Hand drawn adult Novels/comics(or even games) take a long time to produce, so it makes sense that each scene can't have many drawings/angles, so the author keeps it to a minimum in order to keep the quality as high as possible.
But on 3d rendered games like BB(or DmD etc) the models are already perfect, the room is already there, and after setting up a scene, it takes much less effort to produce more angles/poses. It still takes time to set it up, but most of the work is already "done". Only thing keeping an artist back is the rendering time(hardware).
Fans have shown that it's possible to produce proffesional looking renderings (fan art) that are hard to distinguish from the official ones.

So why the hell do we get only 2-3 renderings(sometimes even 1-2) per scene? You have all this build up to achieve something more with a character (Lisa's training Alice's blog, or the amazing Lisa-Olivia build up to the threesome are pure Gold) and the reward ends up a couple of shots that then become the repeatable scenes u get to grind everyday.

When u have the opportunity to really flesh out a story and enrich your game/business-income with minimal extra effort, why would you choose to produce so much less?
I don't think DS himself is that interested in the sex scenes. He started off writing a game based on his own interests, which is why we had Eric, and lots of voyeurism. His kinks lie in a lot of stuff, but I don't think actual sex is high on the list of his interests. It's just another scene to put in. Maybe with enough people asking for it, he'd expand the sex scenes. I completely agree with you that they are disappointing, especially given all of the build-up and work to get there. It would help if he at least added more text to them. I think we're literally losing a lot in translation here. An option in his latest poll should have been for a full translation to English, instead of something that is only halfway.


Because his updates already small even without Eric content. If he puts some on that too his updates getting even smaller for the majority. Its a lose-lose situation for him really. His last update was the most succesful and he is well aware
Exactly this. Any time spent doing Eric content is time away from doing far more popular stuff. People would begrudge every single picture devoted to Eric, even if they never played his path. Eric is hated at a primal level. At this point, I think more people would pay to have Eric removed from the game than would pay to have more content added for his paths.
 

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Eric doesnt need to return, he is still in the house on the friends with eric path, and my prediction is than when he finish to satisfice you all with his linear path of non-eric, he will return to do the other path, and maybe you can get rid of him in friends with eric's path also. Having just one path doesnt add replayability to the game. It's like reading a comic book
Well, multiple choices and replayability in like a rpg game is good, but then the game kind of need to be a full release already. A game such as this, with multiple branches, and I guess we can call it episode content. Not so fun if you only interested in one or the other. At least when I read a comic book, I don't have to wait a month to read a new page. Regardless you can't always get what you want, when you want it. On a note of replayability in games with multile choices and paths. I believe if a player decide to replay a game, he doesn't necessary take that other path because it might not fit their preference.
 
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Eric doesnt need to return, he is still in the house on the friends with eric path, and my prediction is than when he finish to satisfice you all with his linear path of non-eric, he will return to do the other path, and maybe you can get rid of him in friends with eric's path also. Having just one path doesnt add replayability to the game. It's like reading a comic book
I hope he goes back to finish the eric stuff at somepoint now that the haters have quit crying and he seems to have found a decent groove with content for max and the girls. I dont like eric either but the lack of balance and choice is what made the state of the game in the past hard to deal with but i still want to see what happens with it now that hes starting to add options to skip it im not gona lie i had a pretty good rage boner goin for the eric stuff so theirs that.
 

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I hope he goes back to finish the eric stuff at somepoint now that the haters have quit crying and he seems to have found a decent groove with content for max and the girls. I dont like eric either but the lack of balance and choice is what made the state of the game in the past hard to deal with but i still want to see what happens with it now that hes starting to add options to skip it im not gona lie i had a pretty good rage boner goin for the eric stuff so theirs that.
I don't think people would be opposed to conflict in the game, and having to work for the girls. It's just that most of them don't want it to be with Eric. Really, it would have been awesome if instead of being Max's facilitator, Kira was his opponent. She could be making a much more overt play for her sister, and her nieces. Maybe she sleeps with Max just to try to distract him from the other girls, or works to sabotage him in much less obnoxious ways than Eric. People that hated seeing Eric screw any of the girls would love seeing have sex with them first. Well, barring taking Lisa's virginity with a strap-on or something. Or they could focus on Ann being the bitch more. She's already shown her strict side. The challenge could come from trying to screw your sisters without Ann finding out and cock-blocking you, while also managing to seduce her before involving her with your sisters.
 
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when he finish to satisfice you all with his linear path of non-eric,
You Eric folks really should stop trying to use terms about Game development that really don't apply at all...You think it makes you sound intelligent and pretend to know something about developing games but to someone who has actually worked on AAA titles you just sound foolish.
Eric's line is AS LINEAR as any other line in this story! The only thing he actually accomplishes is that he jerks you off the story people want to see and goals most MCs in a sex game are supposed to achieve which is Max having Sex!
For a good part of the development and version releases he was the ONLY damn line other than Lisa Is or Isn't GF!
So please stop pretending that Eric's appearance is some sort of pseudo ground breaking game mechanism invented to elevate the game beyond all the other stuff posted and milked for cash on Patreon.

Cause you are only fooling yourselves not the rest of us.
Even a Renpy game like My New Life with all the bugs and crashes has 50 more interesting and varied storylines that ALL INTERSECT and open NEW QUESTS PLUS it has ANIMATED SEX SCENES!!!!!!

Eric doesn't open up any path other than peeking. He gets Pervy and YOU get to watch!
Not only is it a LINEAR as linear gets...It's boring as all hell because there is NO PARTICIPATION of the character you are playing.


Great for you guys who like to have someone else fuck your women but the majority prefer to fuck them ourselves, You peepers are free to watch us!
 
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