Unity Abandoned Big Brother [v0.13.0.007] [Dark Silver]

[Lynn]

Some kinks are incompatable with others. NTR is incompatable with the Harem domination fetish, which this game now kind of IS. I suspect that NTR fans are going to have to find a different game, as limited dev resources have moved on.

It may be incompatible now, but it wasn't at first. Atleast one person played the game because of that specific angle, that's a certainty, and people asking for more Eric related content kind of proves it. But you're right, the game has taken a turn that does not exactly allow NTR content.

But anyway, that's not really the point. Wether this is "NTR-friendly" or not, I don't see the point of needlessly bashing people who want that kind of content. Honestly, how does it affect you that people are asking for it? They're not even getting what they want, so let them "cry" all they want.

 

[TastySnickers]

Nobody cares what you jerk off to or don't jerk off to. Let other people jerk off to whatever the hell they want. It's not your concern and it's not up to you to judge them, which is what you're obviously doing right now. Don't even try to say that you're not being offensive to people having that fetish. Let cucks be cucks and fuck off.
How immature and hypocritical must you be to be on a website dedicated to pirate porn games but also find time to do a little kinkshaming? You're telling me you're an adult and you don't know that you don't get to choose what you're attracted to or not? This is just sad.

I find it very ironical and funny that you call me "immature and hypocritical" while at the same time having profile at the very same site and thinking you are speaker for the "NTR fetish" community by calling me offensive to all people who enjoy this fetish. Now for me this is the real sad part.

 

[Darkaura]

let them "cry"

The tears of a cucked by Max, Eric fan, are by far, the most delicious.

 

[Lynn]

Never said I spoke for the "NTR community", or that I was a part of it. You both just assumed it because it's easier to deflect and write some meaningless personnal attacks rather than explaining your childish behaviour. I would have reacted the same way if it was about another fetish, because I am actually able to put myself in another person' shoes and understand how they would feel, despite not being exactly like me.

It's called empathy. You should look it up sometime. Anyways, I'm done with the both of you, nothing to get out of this "conversation".

 

[TastySnickers]

Never said I spoke for the "NTR community", or that I was a part of it. You both just assumed it because it's easier to deflect and write some meaningless personnal attacks rather than explaining your childish behaviour. I would have reacted the same way if it was about another fetish, because I am actually able to put myself in another person' shoes and understand how they would feel, despite not being exactly like me.

It's called empathy. You should look it up sometime. Anyways, I'm done with the both of you, nothing to get out of this "conversation".

Now now do not tell us that we assumed that you are part of the "NTR community" just because you are showing "empathy" for the cucks. I do not know your age but you seem to think you are really mature person who knows how to argument his/herself good. Be a good and educated person like you think you are and exlain to me why should I feel emphathy to group of people that I dislike because of their fetish?

 

[a1fox3]

3 if you get punished.

I forgot about that one.
By that point Max has already bought no punishment in my game.

 

[Blades1138]

NTR lovers are just the same as you, silly incest-lover Though it is highly unlikely cause people most of the people hate Eric, doesn't change the fact that you're the same as them, just a different fetish

Wait. I've been playing this game because of the sexy models, the incest thing barely registers. Have I been doing it wrong all this time ?
Now seriously, @Indagame chill out dude. NTR-lovers are people too, the fact that we're not into the same thing as them doesn't mean it's evil or something. I honestly would have no issue with it being present in the game if it was 100% avoidable. However as it stands now basically the first sex scenes you ever get are NTR. One could argue that you can just avoid viewing them, but how in the hell are you supposed to get the money to get rid of Eric otherwise. It's obvious that the initial portion of the game needs some polishing/rework.
Hell, if Eric wasn't a completely degenerate asshole who seeks exploit Ann's psychological issues and cheat her out of her home, I'd welcome the competition. Imagine a world where Eric is a half-decent guy who genuinely had an affection for Ann and tried to get along with the family, cockblocking you unintentionally as result - the game would play completely different. But as it stands now even his CG model screams "douchebag".

 

[Yijahh]

who write this game? a monkey?

 

[Corambis]

In the context of an incest game, Eric makes little sense and was poorly implemented. It's fine to have a character as a rival in a game like this, or to be the object of hate. But as someone mentioned, Eric comes into the game in god-mode. People hate him, not for being a villain, but for just existing in the first place. Maybe he's normal for an NTR or cuck-fetish game, but for most people interested in incest, he's like Jar Jar Binks. DS has had to radically change his plans for the game because such a high percentage of his paying customer base hate Eric. For this same reason, it's extremely unlikely Eric will get more content, because that will piss off too many people. Maybe once all of the main arcs are over and the incest people leave he'll go back and explore Eric some more, but I don't see it happening before then. He'd actually lose Patrons if he had an update that had even a little Eric content. Maybe it's not fair. DS himself obviously wanted different things for his game than what his Patrons wanted, but he had to give in to the people that are paying his bills. Luckily for me, it made it into a game more like what I would like. I'd like to see it move away more from the corruption angle, and include some romance. Maybe it will, or maybe in his next game, DS will start out from the beginning more attuned to what his audience wants.

 

[Darkaura]

I forgot about that one.
By that point Max has already bought no punishment in my game.

I leave that on and cheat the punishment on days where I am up early, if I pass the Lisa peep, to get the 1,2,3 and viewers up to 600.

 

[Yijahh]

I was kind of of hoping for an ending where I let Eric have his way and just expose all of it right before I leave. Sit mom and the sisters down to show them the recording I made when Eric told me he was going to fuck every girl in the house.

Show my sisters that I caught Eric jerking it to Alice and our pathetic cock blinded mom got mad when I tried to tell her.

I would have recorded him "training" Lisa and all the shit he does with Alice every time Mom takes a fucking shower.

The looks on their faces should be pretty priceless. Make sure to call my mom a retarded cum dumpster for not being able to see past Eric's tiny dick. Tell her to have fun with her married boyfriend who's real name she doesn't even know while he fucks both her daughter behind her back.

Then I take the Aunt, the only one who believed me and tried to help and just leave with all the money I made recording. Seriously………there is a CAMERA IN EVERY ROOM how is it not easier to expose everything eric does?

 

[Blades1138]

...DS himself obviously wanted different things for his game than what his Patrons wanted, but he had to give in to the people that are paying his bills...

The stated goal on his Patreon is to make a high quality game. As far as I can tell, him being an experienced video game developer really helped in the technical areas - CG graphics, interface/menu and the the way gameplay is married with story. However he fails on his intention to deliver an interesting story where each dialogue choice matters. Writing is his main weakness which makes it inconsistent and jarring when compared to the rest of the game.

 

[Darkaura]

Writing is his main weakness which makes it inconsistent and jarring when compared to the rest of the game.

I've seen comments that say it's better in the original Russian...

 

[Corambis]

The stated goal on his Patreon is to make a high quality game. As far as I can tell, him being an experienced video game developer really helped in the technical areas - CG graphics, interface/menu and the the way gameplay is married with story. However he fails on his intention to deliver an interesting story where each dialogue choice matters. Writing is his main weakness which makes it inconsistent and jarring when compared to the rest of the game.

It's a very pretty game with lots of really hot and well-rendered pictures, and those tend to distract you from a poor story and bad writing. But people still put up with those things in the hopes of the payoff sometime in the future. Big Brother is the hot girl with no personality that you keep spending your money on because she lets you get further and further each time. But she doesn't need to develop a personality because people keep treating her well because of her looks.

 

[Blades1138]

I've seen comments that say it's better in the original Russian...

You can probably blame poor dialogue on an imperfect translation, but it's logical to assume that the rest of it is just due to the script being unimaginative to say the least. For example Ann getting into the porn business because "we need the money" doesn't fit her character, but only serves the purpose of getting Max into her pants. He also gets to have sex with Alice because "she needs money". There's a trend here and these are not things that can be lost in translation, unless we're playing a game with an entirely separate script from the Russian version, which would mean 2 different games.
I'm not just saying these things to bash on BB, but to acknowledge the real issues with it. I'm glad that a lot of people already see that and I hope if enough patrons are vocal about it the game may improve for everybody. Meanwhile arguing pro/anti-NTR or speculating on what DS wanted for the game are fruitless, because if his script was better, he'd be able to include all the NTR he wants in a meaningful way and nobody would hold it against him - he wouldn't have to drop plot threads because of backlash etc.

It's a very pretty game with lots of really hot and well-rendered pictures, and those tend to distract you from a poor story and bad writing. But people still put up with those things in the hopes of the payoff sometime in the future. Big Brother is the hot girl with no personality that you keep spending your money on because she lets you get further and further each time. But she doesn't need to develop a personality because people keep treating her well because of her looks.

That's probably the most accurate metaphor for this game. Certainly in my case I'm playing mainly for the graphics, but I guess that the story partly draws me in as well, like a train wreck that you just can't help staring at.

 

[Pinesama]

Maybe I'm a weirdo or getting it all wrong but I don't have any major problems with the game writing...

To me, Max is portrayed mostly as a young, hormone-driven sociopath who is eager to bang anything with tits. I see his incestious tendancies mostly as "targets of opportunity" since he never leaves the house and rarely shows any true empathy towards his family. Likewise, the women never seem to initiate with him. In that sense, the incest is incidental. So, I don't mind if he wants to bang Olivia, other than the fact that she is fake-tan-orange. IMO, the 3-somes with her and Lisa are among the hottest scenes in the game and I would probably pursue that path every time if the content wasn't mutually exclusive to Lisa's lessons.

I don't have a problem with Ann being consumed by Eric either. We don't really know how long it's been since she has had a lover prior to him. It could have been a very long time. In those circumstances, it's not unthinkable that she would be D-whipped from the outset. It's not her fault that she is not a strong and individualistic woman. That said, it's apparent that she is mostly just interested in the sexual aspect of their relationship as once you begin giving Eric the limp-dick pills, his influence rapidly plummets. Aside from that, we should consider that in a healthy BDSM relationship, it is the submissive who wields the ultimate power because it is by their consent that they are dominated. I'm not saying that their relationship is totally healthy but am also not inclined to believe that she is abused (beyond her consent) by him either (aside from the larger con-job).

With that in mind, I am not completely surprised when Ann is willing to take the word of her lover over that of her sociopathic son. However, I do think it would be appropriate for confrontations about Eric's peeping to serve in reducing Eric's influence (perhaps even lower his maximum influence over her).

Now, before anyone accuses me of being an Eric loving cuck, let me say that I hate the dude and take massive satisfaction in cock-blocking Eric at every turn. If done patiently and correctly, Eric will never touch either of Max's sisters or Aunt Kira. It's only too bad that certain paths seemingly can't progress until he is gone. I would love to be grinding Eric's gears by having him know that Max is buttfucking Lisa in the kitchen or having fun with her and Kira without him being able to do anything about it.

Sadly, I feel that the gameplay becomes super boring once Eric is gone (a hero is only as great as his nemesis, right?). Once he's gone, I have no motivation to visit the ladies of the house and find myself just waiting through whole days trying to get different progression events to trigger. Unfortunately, He eventually becomes a progression hinderance and there's no choice but to be rid of him. It is hinted there will be more content with him as a pawn in the future so I remain somewhat optimistic...

The hacker blackmail path has potential to become interesting. For reasons stated in-game, the bait and switch path to fucking Ann should not be so simple but I don't think it would preclude other entertaining scenarios such as Max jizzing on her while blindfolded or using toys on her. It is also hinted at that Max could find a consensual route to fucking Ann with Eric's help but that it would take some time to devise. I would laugh if indeed this became the quickest route to repeatedly fucking Ann (if not the only route).

There should also be a path to finding the hidden the camera that Eric has hidden in Ann's room (The one he uses to record Max and Kira). I think it's safe to assume he has also been recording himself and Ann and will be using these videos to help coerce Ann into signing over the house to him. Presumably, Max could threaten to tell Ann about it to further control Eric although there is a chance she would already know about the camera and being recorded.

Now, if DS really wanted to conflict folks, he would implement an opposite-spectrum mechanic to keeping Eric... Something like making it necessary to preserve a certain percentage of Eric's influence to keep him from cutting his losses and leaving on his own (after certain story flags have been set).

Ultimately, I'm pretty satisfied with the direction DS has taken so far and am happy to be a low-tier Patreon supporter. BB is more game than visual novel and I appreciate that. There's obviously still much potential for improvement. I hope we will be seeing much more "end-game/post-Eric" content and more variety in sexual encounters like Max titfucking Kira or exploring sleep encounters. It would also be great if you could completely cock-block Eric while he is at the house (ruin the morning bathroom scene).

Sorry for the TL: DR... just wanted to share some thoughts on a game that I think is pretty cool

 

[rocky1905]

Thanks a lot for awesome game

 

[SDaddy666]

Maybe I'm a weirdo or getting it all wrong but I don't have any major problems with the game writing...

To me, Max is portrayed mostly as a young, hormone-driven sociopath who is eager to bang anything with tits. I see his incestious tendancies mostly as "targets of opportunity" since he never leaves the house and rarely shows any true empathy towards his family. Likewise, the women never seem to initiate with him. In that sense, the incest is incidental. So, I don't mind if he wants to bang Olivia, other than the fact that she is fake-tan-orange. IMO, the 3-somes with her and Lisa are among the hottest scenes in the game and I would probably pursue that path every time if the content wasn't mutually exclusive to Lisa's lessons.

I don't have a problem with Ann being consumed by Eric either. We don't really know how long it's been since she has had a lover prior to him. It could have been a very long time. In those circumstances, it's not unthinkable that she would be D-whipped from the outset. It's not her fault that she is not a strong and individualistic woman. That said, it's apparent that she is mostly just interested in the sexual aspect of their relationship as once you begin giving Eric the limp-dick pills, his influence rapidly plummets. Aside from that, we should consider that in a healthy BDSM relationship, it is the submissive who wields the ultimate power because it is by their consent that they are dominated. I'm not saying that their relationship is totally healthy but am also not inclined to believe that she is abused (beyond her consent) by him either (aside from the larger con-job).

With that in mind, I am not completely surprised when Ann is willing to take the word of her lover over that of her sociopathic son. However, I do think it would be appropriate for confrontations about Eric's peeping to serve in reducing Eric's influence (perhaps even lower his maximum influence over her).

Now, before anyone accuses me of being an Eric loving cuck, let me say that I hate the dude and take massive satisfaction in cock-blocking Eric at every turn. If done patiently and correctly, Eric will never touch either of Max's sisters or Aunt Kira. It's only too bad that certain paths seemingly can't progress until he is gone. I would love to be grinding Eric's gears by having him know that Max is buttfucking Lisa in the kitchen or having fun with her and Kira without him being able to do anything about it.

Sadly, I feel that the gameplay becomes super boring once Eric is gone (a hero is only as great as his nemesis, right?). Once he's gone, I have no motivation to visit the ladies of the house and find myself just waiting through whole days trying to get different progression events to trigger. Unfortunately, He eventually becomes a progression hinderance and there's no choice but to be rid of him. It is hinted there will be more content with him as a pawn in the future so I remain somewhat optimistic...

The hacker blackmail path has potential to become interesting. For reasons stated in-game, the bait and switch path to fucking Ann should not be so simple but I don't think it would preclude other entertaining scenarios such as Max jizzing on her while blindfolded or using toys on her. It is also hinted at that Max could find a consensual route to fucking Ann with Eric's help but that it would take some time to devise. I would laugh if indeed this became the quickest route to repeatedly fucking Ann (if not the only route).

There should also be a path to finding the hidden the camera that Eric has hidden in Ann's room (The one he uses to record Max and Kira). I think it's safe to assume he has also been recording himself and Ann and will be using these videos to help coerce Ann into signing over the house to him. Presumably, Max could threaten to tell Ann about it to further control Eric although there is a chance she would already know about the camera and being recorded.

Now, if DS really wanted to conflict folks, he would implement an opposite-spectrum mechanic to keeping Eric... Something like making it necessary to preserve a certain percentage of Eric's influence to keep him from cutting his losses and leaving on his own (after certain story flags have been set).

Ultimately, I'm pretty satisfied with the direction DS has taken so far and am happy to be a low-tier Patreon supporter. BB is more game than visual novel and I appreciate that. There's obviously still much potential for improvement. I hope we will be seeing much more "end-game/post-Eric" content and more variety in sexual encounters like Max titfucking Kira or exploring sleep encounters. It would also be great if you could completely cock-block Eric while he is at the house (ruin the morning bathroom scene).

Sorry for the TL: DR... just wanted to share some thoughts on a game that I think is pretty cool

Yeah i agree with some points, When Eric was there and threatening, (0.3-0.4) I was driven by anger to play the game. Now i'm just like "yeah only mom left to fuck".

The other thing is, and thank you for pointing that, No one ever comes to you. Except if you are punished or if you hide the spider. People could use your help but would spend weeks dealing with their problem instead of coming to talk to you. In other words, everyone hates you, you are miserable and lonely and you don't even leave the house.

Pretty depressing...

 

[Vibescu]

NTR community? Incest community? What is it, a kind of sect?
I'm begining to feel pity for DS for the amount of fanboys that has gathered his game.

 

[dickermax]

NTR community? Incest community? What is it, a kind of sect?
I'm begining to feel pity for DS for the amount of fanboys that has gathered his game.

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