VN Ren'Py Sinful Delicacies [Ep.17] [Temptress Games]

[SeeYaNextTuesday]

Ok, I'm REALLY not trying to be a dick here.... just blunt. Why the hell is the writing sooo fuckin' cringe? Not just the dialogue/internal monologue, but the story progression as well. This thing goes from zero to "what the actual fuck?" so fast that it completely falls apart (imo). I've forced myself to continue playing to the point where MC and "mommy" (seriously, "mommy"? Just say "mom".) are on the island for the second night. And I'm honestly not sure if I can continue. Am I supposed to be rolling my eyes and saying "seriously!" out loud every 2 to 5 minutes? Because if that's the intention... it's working perfectly. Reading the overview, I thought "Ok, this seems like it'll be a good time".... And it's been anything but. Little technical shit like single "choice" clicking for things that REALLY don't need a click. Like "Open The Door For Her", "Go Apologize", "Go Near Her" and "Get Closer".... just fucking nix that shit! Why exactly do I need to "make a choice" for something that's going to happen regardless? That is NOT a rhetorical question. The way the characters talk is fuckin' ridiculous. And obviously I don't mean "haha funny, good times" ridiculous. "Hey I've got a great idea... lets see how many times we can make the characters say the word 'Lambo' out loud in under 10 minutes, like it's the most natural thing in the world, and not the biggest douche move ever." Is the word "Lamborghini" really that hard to spell? And once it's been said ONCE, does it actually need to be reaffirmed multiple times? We get it... they're a super wealthy mob family, with supercars in the living room. Wow... "baller af" (fyi, THAT'S sarcasm! Not whatever the hell went on with MC and Ella about the motorcycle). OK! I'm stopping right fuckin' here, because if I don't I'm just gonna keep going until my head fuckin' explodes. In summation, as you probably gathered (if you're still actually reading this) I believe this ENTIRE script needs a major fuckin' overhaul. It seriously reads like something written by a 16 year old that just slammed 10 Monsters and binge watched every single Vin Diesel movie (no hate for Vin Diesel, btw). I'm going to continue TRYING to play this, and I genuinely hope it gets better. But I have serious doubts.

 

[SeeYaNextTuesday]

Isn't it normally already a 'challenge' to get the girl to be romantically interested in you? And quite a few games have a mroe or less interesting main story about searching for a long lost family secret or surviving in a Mafia Family etc. This 'extra challenge' is a bunk argument. Dev should go back to the drawing board of his actual storyline and work on the interesting part of his world, where MC's Dad is a mafia boss. More than enough challenges and interesting stuff there tbh...

Also there is kinda very little actual choice if one option is "total game over, reload from save LUL" and there is only one other option that keeps you in the game...

THIS! SO MUCH FUCKIN' THIS!!!

 

[Nightphysics]

Ok, I'm REALLY not trying to be a dick here.... just blunt. Why the hell is the writing sooo fuckin' cringe? Not just the dialogue/internal monologue, but the story progression as well. This thing goes for zero to "what the actual fuck?" so fast that is completely falls apart (imo). I've forced myself to continue playing to the point where MC and "mommy" (seriously, "mommy"? Just say "mom".) are on the island for the second night. And I'm honestly not sure if I can continue. Am I supposed to be rolling my eyes and saying "seriously!" out loud every 2 to 5 minutes? Because if that's the intention... it's working perfectly. Reading the overview, I thought "Ok, this seems like it'll be a good time".... And it's been anything but. Little technical shit like single "choice" clicking for things that REALLY don't need a click. Like "Open The Door For Her", "Go Apologize", "Go Near Her" and "Get Closer".... just fucking nix that shit! Why exactly do I need to "make a choice" for something that's going to happen regardless? That is NOT a rhetorical question. The way the characters talk is fuckin' ridiculous. And obviously I don't mean "haha funny, good times" ridiculous. "Hey I've got a great idea... lets see how many times we can make the characters say the word 'Lambo' out loud in under 10 minutes, like it's the most natural thing in the world, and not the biggest douche move ever." Is the word "Lamborghini" really that hard to spell? And once it's been said ONCE, does it actually need to be reaffirmed multiple times? We get it... they're a super wealthy mob family, with supercars in the living room. Wow... "baller af" (fyi, THAT'S sarcasm! Not whatever the hell went on with MC and Ella about the motorcycle). OK! I'm stopping right fuckin' here, because if I don't I'm just gonna keep going until my head fuckin' explodes. In summation, as you probably gathered (if you're still actually reading this) I believe this ENTIRE script needs a major fuckin' overhaul. It seriously reads like something written by a 16 year old that just slammed 10 Monsters and binge watched every single Vin Diesel movie (no hate for Vin Diesel, btw). I'm going to continue TRYING to play this, and I genuinely hope it gets better. But I have serious doubts.

Not much to add to that TBH. I made clear earlier that the part with the cars and the bike irked me out and lack of actual options, is just not interesting for a game. Either they are as SeeYaNextTuesday said pointless one option button clicks with not real purpose to be there in the first place or option between game over and progressing story... RenPy's strength is conveying story through text and pictures/animations and branching storylines. If you're not using branching storylines then it feels shallow.

 

[DarkAssassin]

Yep, it does. Had me confused there for a second as well.

thank u so much man!

 

[Walter Victor]

Wow the busty mom dived out of a crashing jet, and her hair didn't even get wet! I'm surprised her sexy dress faired so well either, and not ripped from her curvaceous body. The renderings are good, but the plot seems farfetched almost comical.

You're worried about Mom's dress! How about her SKIN being ripped from her curvaceous body and every bone in that body crushed? When they hit the water at that speed, it would have been like diving into concrete. Humans are not flying squirrels. And having one person on top of the other would not create a better airfoil. Anyone coming upon them afterwards would have had difficulty distinguishing mother from son.

The other cringeworthy moment to me is Mom's immediate adoption of Candice into the family. Really?

There is an AWFUL lot of suspension of disbelief that is needed to play this game without rolling on the floor, clutching your stomach from laughing at the outrageous plot twists and cliches.

Having said all that, I will keep playing because of the beauty of the models. I mean the MC now has a mother, four sisters and an aunt as sexual targets. The ones we have seen so far are all highly worthy of pursuit. And there are still two of the sisters who have yet to appear - a model, and one who is having troubles with her husband. I might keep playing just to see what they look like.

 

[Walter Victor]

Has anyone else noticed that games developed by non-native English speakers invariably use 'gonna' and 'wanna' to excess. Is that how they think that Americans and Brits actually speak in every sentence? It's not just certain characters, it's all of them. And it's not just this game.

 

[Nightphysics]

i still don't understand why whinning about ntring in this game.
SHE is MC's sister and aunt who get fucked by other men than MC himself,you are the third party here,if MC fucked his mom then you get ntred because you watched her wretched by her son and all you did is fap on it... i still remember how "dreams of desire" get fucked every update because of this. so the game ended with HAREM KING MASTER.... BORRING
so in real life when you know that your sister is going to party with her boyfriend you feel ntred ?
wait, you fuck your own mom and sister in real life ???? GROSSSSSSS
AGAIN, LET'S STOP THE HARD FEELINGS AND LEAVE DEVS do their thingy

If you did, then you guys should've not whined about lack of NTR in the first place. I find the fascination about that kind of thing really sick but that is neither here nor there. It's just that marking off fetish-boxes is bad writing and the reason why Hollywood sucks with them trying to appease every damn focus group. There are enough actually non boring things that could've been explored like what does Ella actually do for her father and what does exactly the father do and why isn't the father bringing in the son into the "family business" of being a Mobster? That is more interesting and less retardedly gross and ridiculous than what is presented now.

I think people are misunderstanding the concept of NTR

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I'm really bored of every other user here trying to defend and redefine NTR so he can get his cake and eat it too. It's a stupid concept in many games but a few as it is a (luckily) very niche fetish with a very loud minority trying to stuff it into every goddamn game. There are enough stories and challenges and quests to be explored as can be seen in Peasant's Quest, Farmer's Dream, Summertime Saga, My New Life, The DeLuca Family etc. etc. if people are actually interested in an engaging story. Absolutely no need for this type of "interesting" content slapped onto a concept that should be explored more thoroughly as I pointed out in my response to fzaner.

But while Dev is at it, why doesn't he go through the DSM V and find all kinds of sexual deviancies and mental illnesses if that is the route he's going for? On my end, I will in the future just block these types of trolls and if appropriate report them for off-topic comments.

 

[Mikey Mike]

You're worried about Mom's dress! How about her SKIN being ripped from her curvaceous body and every bone in that body crushed? When they hit the water at that speed, it would have been like diving into concrete. Humans are not flying squirrels. And having one person on top of the other would not create a better airfoil. Anyone coming upon them afterwards would have had difficulty distinguishing mother from son.

The other cringeworthy moment to me is Mom's immediate adoption of Candice into the family. Really?

There is an AWFUL lot of suspension of disbelief that is needed to play this game without rolling on the floor, clutching your stomach from laughing at the outrageous plot twists and cliches.

Having said all that, I will keep playing because of the beauty of the models. I mean the MC now has a mother, four sisters and an aunt as sexual targets. The ones we have seen so far are all highly worthy of pursuit. And there are still two of the sisters who have yet to appear - a model, and one who is having troubles with her husband. I might keep playing just to see what they look like.

Yea, I agree with most of what you're saying and wanted my answer to be comical versus technical. I almost forgot that the mom's heels survived the fall and swim too! Why wasn't there a copilot? Wouldn't a controlled water landing have been more appropriate and believable? LOL, not sure if the dev is being absurd or inept? I totally agree with your observation of Candace's immediate adoption. What if she's a crazed psychopath? Didn't she abruptly kill her fellow soldier to save strangers?

 

[Walter Victor]

Go easy on the NTR discussions, people. They tend to get out of hand, take over a thread, and get people banned.

Personally, I don't want to have to wade through dozens of posts about what is or is not NTR, or whether or not it should be in a particular game.

As a preference, I don't like it, but I've accepted it in a few games. So.... eh!

 

[bas]

Predictably, I just deleted the usual posts of people arguing about the actual definition of NTR and then people calling the pro-NTR crowd sick and disgusting.

Please just quit.

 

[Rythan25]

I seriously hope the dev doesnt get discouraged by all the vitrol regarding his story... I love it for the sheer insanity of the plot, its like Sharknado meets The Italian Job ! Aside from the Aunt scene that was utter garbage everything else has been "passable" to me... Yes the plane jump was utter crazyness as hitting the water from that height at the speed is the same as hitting pavement...Yes the Mom adopting the crazy army girl was very WTF-ish with how quick she decided it... but at least it made me smile and feel warm...

The aunt scene on the other hand was about as subtle (even though you knew it was coming from the moment Joshua showed up) as some guy bending you over and sticking it in your ass, and after he's "in" yelling "Surprise motherfucker !". That's basically how that felt...

To everyone asking who cares... Moments before you first meet her the Mom and the MC talk about her, and the MC right away talks about how he always had a crush on her, and how "fun" she is to hang out with... clearly she is a LI, or will be in the future, making her debut slobbing all over BBC was a bad choice as many people will write her off as "damaged goods".

 

[Idkanythingsmarter]

First of all, agree on everything what You have said.

Aside from the Aunt scene that was utter garbage everything else has been "passable" to me...
The aunt scene on the other hand was about as subtle (even though you knew it was coming from the moment Joshua showed up) as some guy bending you over and sticking it in your ass, and after he's "in" yelling "Surprise motherfucker !". That's basically how that felt...

To everyone asking who cares... Moments before you first meet her the Mom and the MC talk about her, and the MC right away talks about how he always had a crush on her, and how "fun" she is to hang out with... clearly she is a LI, or will be in the future, making her debut slobbing all over BBC was a bad choice as many people will write her off as "damaged goods".

Couldn't agree more.

To everyone asking who cares... Moments before you first meet her the Mom and the MC talk about her, and the MC right away talks about how he always had a crush on her, and how "fun" she is to hang out with... clearly she is a LI, or will be in the future, making her debut slobbing all over BBC was a bad choice as many people will write her off as "damaged goods".

I needed to quote this again, because she is now that, the damaged good. Dev don't need to add her renders any more, if he asks me, and that's probably how many of us think.

About deleted comments, I know that boss doing his job and I respect that, but it isn't fair in some instances. This site should allow reporting demands for some kinks, to stop ppl for ruining other ppl games. If those kinks weren't originally included or planned, they shouldn't be there. I see that many ppl come just to ask for those things to ruin satisfaction of other ppl. That happened here, they come here and made all this mess. I mean that this would be correct for everybody.

Now to say this last time, they come first here demanding for that content and ruined this game. And this isn't the only case here, I'm following a lot of threads and have seen them on every non-ntr thread, that's why I'm asking mods to add, if it is possible, such options like, reporting "begging" for kinks.

Next, I blame developer for lack of consistency. Trying to please all can just be contra-productive, and that's what happened here. He should just stick to original plans and keep working on it, hell, even DrPinkCake, didn't wanted to change anything to his game (not even alternate ending), because he had a vision to follow. I, personally, will never forgive him his decision, but I have huge respect for him. I know, only, that I will never play any of his next games.

Now back to this game, if we were knew that this game will include that, we would not come to play in the first place. That's why we have tags and overview, to decide will we play or not. Honestly, I'm sick of those ppl trying to ruin every game on this forum. They have theirs, and we have ours, and let's not ruin satisfactions to each other.

My intention wasn't to offend anyone for their kinks, but, only what I'm asking is to be considerate to other ppl. You like that, and I'm totally fine with that, but please stay there and don't come to our threads to inflict all those conversations, anger, and generally, mess which is left behind all of that. Peace.

 

[bas]

This site should allow reporting demands for some kinks, to stop ppl for ruining other ppl games. If those kinks weren't originally included or planned, they shouldn't be there. I see that many ppl come just to ask for those things to ruin satisfaction of other ppl. That happened here, they come here and made all this mess. I mean that this would be correct for everybody.

Now to say this last time, they come first here demanding for that content and ruined this game. And this isn't the only case here, I'm following a lot of threads and have seen them on every non-ntr thread, that's why I'm asking mods to add, if it is possible, such options like, reporting "begging" for kinks.

If someone is spamming a thread, feel free to report them. I've deleted posts where the dev says "no, I'm not going to add XXX, please stop asking" but they continue. At this point it becomes inappropriate. Otherwise add them to your ignore list because simply saying "hey can you add blah-blah to your game?" is not against the rules nor will it ever be.

 

[ssrrxxbr]

I'm just worried if they can still reach the nudist beach ..

 

[Szabbyka]

I'm curious about this aunt how she'll act with the mc when they meet.

 

[Walter Victor]

I seriously hope the dev doesnt get discouraged by all the vitrol regarding his story... I love it for the sheer insanity of the plot, its like Sharknado meets The Italian Job ! Aside from the Aunt scene that was utter garbage everything else has been "passable" to me... Yes the plane jump was utter crazyness as hitting the water from that height at the speed is the same as hitting pavement...Yes the Mom adopting the crazy army girl was very WTF-ish with how quick she decided it... but at least it made me smile and feel warm...

The aunt scene on the other hand was about as subtle (even though you knew it was coming from the moment Joshua showed up) as some guy bending you over and sticking it in your ass, and after he's "in" yelling "Surprise motherfucker !". That's basically how that felt...

To everyone asking who cares... Moments before you first meet her the Mom and the MC talk about her, and the MC right away talks about how he always had a crush on her, and how "fun" she is to hang out with... clearly she is a LI, or will be in the future, making her debut slobbing all over BBC was a bad choice as many people will write her off as "damaged goods".

Strokes for folks. My thought on seeing that scene? Well, she'll be easy (for the MC). Looking forward to that, because she's a fox.

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[Nightphysics]

I seriously hope the dev doesnt get discouraged by all the vitrol regarding his story... I love it for the sheer insanity of the plot, its like Sharknado meets The Italian Job ! Aside from the Aunt scene that was utter garbage everything else has been "passable" to me... Yes the plane jump was utter crazyness as hitting the water from that height at the speed is the same as hitting pavement...Yes the Mom adopting the crazy army girl was very WTF-ish with how quick she decided it... but at least it made me smile and feel warm...

The aunt scene on the other hand was about as subtle (even though you knew it was coming from the moment Joshua showed up) as some guy bending you over and sticking it in your ass, and after he's "in" yelling "Surprise motherfucker !". That's basically how that felt...

To everyone asking who cares... Moments before you first meet her the Mom and the MC talk about her, and the MC right away talks about how he always had a crush on her, and how "fun" she is to hang out with... clearly she is a LI, or will be in the future, making her debut slobbing all over BBC was a bad choice as many people will write her off as "damaged goods".

Oh I don't really want him to totally give up on the project but instead actually take the criticism to heart and think about what kind of game HE wants to make and when he made through his newer releases his intentions clear, I will rate it accordingly and then keep playing or leave it behind me, like I did with other games. I may have sounded really mean and I definitely meant it but I come from an honest place of where I want the game to be better than just those slapped together messes. But we'll see how the future will be with this game. I brought my point across and everything else is up to the Dev.

If someone is spamming a thread, feel free to report them. I've deleted posts where the dev says "no, I'm not going to add XXX, please stop asking" but they continue. At this point it becomes inappropriate. Otherwise add them to your ignore list because simply saying "hey can you add blah-blah to your game?" is not against the rules nor will it ever be.

As I said earlier, I will keep reporting off-topic discussions and trolling as well as blocking those accounts according to rules but the call for actually deleting and warning comments with "begging" for kinks (begging is not just asking once) is understandable given how people act on this forum (especially when it sometimes seem a bit biased...)

 

[Walter Victor]

I'm just worried if they can still reach the nudist beach ..

So, I wasn't the only one who was disappointed about that when the plane went down.

Maybe the whole family can go there later. The MC, with Mom, four sisters, and Aunt Stacy. Fun times!

 

[bas]

Predictably, a game come out without NTR and cucks start crying to the dev to add NTR and mods does not do a shit but god forbid someone go in a NTR game and say something or all the mods react furiously.

Yes, my... punctuation was quite furious. xD

Again, report them if they're not following the rules. There's a dozen or so mods and about 8k regularly active users. We can't see everything, and by the time it gets reported, it's usually because the anti-NTR crowd are personally attacking the pro-NTR crowd. That's one of the two things I deleted earlier.

Or you can respond to my post acting like a victim and painting all the mods with the same brush. That's helpful.

 

[Rythan25]

I think what he may be saying @bossapplesauce is regarding your further comment... and I quote... "asking for a kink isnt against the rules, never has and never will be".

That gives them tons of leeway in that if one comes and says it, rather than doing it again they ask their buddy to come do it next, and then anotehr buddy, and then all 20 or so NTR-fanatics on this board do it and the dev thinks "wow there is an audience for this garbage, lets put it in".

Meanwhile a NTR game comes out and before any of us even post there with the usual question of "is the NTR avoidable" or "which version of NTR is it ? Netorare, Netori, etc" you have mods like mutdoggy right away tossing threats like "anyone that comes in here bitching about NTR gets their comment deleted, no ifs or buts", and then proceeds to do it regarding the above questions...

That's very much a "**** you" to us people that dont like NTR, but are interested in a game that has such amazing renders and models used we are curious if such a trash fetish is avoidable so we "too" can enjoy at least part/half of the game...