What surprised me is the fact that you can put MC's name as his hero name and it plays out normally. I would have thought that the game would at least prevent you.
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Name checks are kind of pointless if you ask me. They are an immersion thing anyway and there are a lot of ways you can break immersion, like naming the MC RetardShota69.
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I hope not
after all the construction they had to simply die and MC not being able to do anything to save it will leave an unpleasant taste
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Gotta trust Shopkeep brothers.We gotta trust in him .He also gave them the "potara" earings lol.
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The Twins are at least mortally wounded, Cole believes he has killed them. MC thinks they are dead.
I expect the twins will survive through supernatural means, with the most likely device being either a shared evolution or Shopkeep's shenanigans.
I expect the twins will survive through supernatural means, with the most likely device being either a shared evolution or Shopkeep's shenanigans.
due to variables getting out of hand (how would WW handle limber stats lol) im leaning towards shopkeep item somehow triggering an evolution for them or if MC can calm tf down and keep cole away for literally a minute I still dont see a reason why he couldnt just "heal" both of them without much difficulty
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By shared evolution I mean the Twin connection triggering an evolution in both. If for example Amber survives and sees Liz's corpse, it's likely that the mental load will cause her to evolve, which may trigger a Liz evolution too. I don't subscribe to the fusion theory, at least not in the way most of the supporters think about it.
I think that instead of amber seeing liz it will have something to with the item shopkeep gave them but otherwise agree, beyond memes I dont have much faith in fusion....MAYBE a temp one (would "revive" them, could give us preview to their late/endgame powers, would make the fight more interesting than a recently powered up MC beating up someone just at his level.
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Considering that they would evolve straight to lvl 3 a temporary fusion could be a great power to have, the minyaks could so it's possible for monsters at least, though they are from a completely different origin than Amber/Liz.
Temporary fusion seems the best of both worlds.
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Liz and Amber will live the most likely cause of them living is the fact they are spawn of the Strength Eaters which are aptly named as they absorb the power of those around them and Liz and Amber have the perfect energy source in the MC and Cole who are going to be fighting right there in proximity to them. Also there is the fact they have those ear rings from shop keep which probably link their powers together in some weird way as the Shopkeep seems to know everything even whats going to happen in the future and sells people the items they need in response to that.
pretty sure the strength eaters need to be "alive" to eat
Shopkeep is interesting.... but i disagree that he "knows everything" (or is more plot reliant/strapped than deus), even if you ignore "joke stuff" like him calling MC charlie (despite him knowing that he would be selling to charlie and that MC and charlie would know each other), why does he only indirectly interact with "weak" people (aka no level 5s) despite multiple of his items directly involving/impacting them? (Shopkeep helping charlie indirectly pushed charlie towards leaving sin, the whole rune thing for henri) if he knows all, can go between the matieral and immaterial and can get anicent (sky/sea) parts, why arent zak/deus aware? Or does deus allow shopkeep to get away with stuff because deus knows its pushes MC towards what he wants? That doesnt explain why zak (pre injury/now) is allowing a third party to influnece stuff as heavily as he is
IMO shopkeep is something/one that "shouldnt exsist" rather than another very powerful "deus ex machina" it wouldnt really change much about his character the only thing it would really chnage is he doesnt interact with strong people because they are likely to know what/who he is and they might not allow him to keep doing what he is doing.
Whose the strongest person we have seen directly interact with him? Is it MC/Met/Charlie at level 3? Im pretty sure if you help henri MC only make a mention of shopkeep to him and even then henri seems like the most likely "strong person" to not care what shopkeep means/could represent
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Well, we have seen Deus interact with the shopkeep and he bullied him, he's technically a lv 4 but a mad strong one. Though IIRC Henri should've already interacted with himpretty sure the strength eaters need to be "alive" to eat
Shopkeep is interesting.... but i disagree that he "knows everything" (or is more plot reliant/strapped than deus), even if you ignore "joke stuff" like him calling MC charlie (despite him knowing that he would be selling to charlie and that MC and charlie would know each other), why does he only indirectly interact with "weak" people (aka no level 5s) despite multiple of his items directly involving/impacting them? (Shopkeep helping charlie indirectly pushed charlie towards leaving sin, the whole rune thing for henri) if he knows all, can go between the matieral and immaterial and can get anicent (sky/sea) parts, why arent zak/deus aware? Or does deus allow shopkeep to get away with stuff because deus knows its pushes MC towards what he wants? That doesnt explain why zak (pre injury/now) is allowing a third party to influnece stuff as heavily as he is
IMO shopkeep is something/one that "shouldnt exsist" rather than another very powerful "deus ex machina" it wouldnt really change much about his character the only thing it would really chnage is he doesnt interact with strong people because they are likely to know what/who he is and they might not allow him to keep doing what he is doing.
Whose the strongest person we have seen directly interact with him? Is it MC/Met/Charlie at level 3? Im pretty sure if you help henri MC only make a mention of shopkeep to him and even then henri seems like the most likely "strong person" to not care what shopkeep means/could represent
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Can Liz and Amber eat strength? Tanos says that the Strength Eaters' power is to teleport through water, and that their energy absorption is "something quite different". That kind of makes it sound like it's not an innate ability of theirs, and that Liz and Amber wouldn't inherit it.
Henri has interacted with him, yeah. We see Henri in Shopkeep's shop at one point, asking him "hey, you look weird, are you a really corrupted superhuman, too?". Which is just rude, Henri.
Like i said "deus could be allowing shopkeep", I guess shopkeep didnt offer him the rune becuase Herni was rude
but "logically" it still kind of hurts the idea that shopkeep knows everything (in the same way deus does at least)
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Could be that, or maybe he didn't give it to him 'cause it wouldn't have worked or it could only work in the dream realmLike i said "deus could be allowing shopkeep", I guess shopkeep didnt offer him the rune becuase Herni was rude
IIRC you buy the monster can in the real world but then MC drinks it in the immaterial? Obviously its not the same item but if a can is allowed to go between the real and immaterial why not a fancy glowing rune
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I don't know man, only thing I can come up is that it's a different item with different properties or more simply in the material world it doesn't have a practical use so he doesn't have it thereIIRC you buy the monster can in the real world but then MC drinks it in the immaterial? Obviously its not the same item but if a can is allowed to go between the real and immaterial why not a fancy glowing rune
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You don't drink it in the dream world, Shopkeep teleports it to MC's cell so that he can drink it once he wakes up. On the other hand, Shopkeep can sell you the monster parts regardless of whether you're in the physical world or dream world, so he clearly has some ability to transfer objects between them.IIRC you buy the monster can in the real world but then MC drinks it in the immaterial? Obviously its not the same item but if a can is allowed to go between the real and immaterial why not a fancy glowing rune
My guess is that Shopkeep didn't sell Henri the rune stone just because he wanted the MC to be the one to use it. Shopkeep seems to want the MC to know about the alt-humans, most of the details we have on them came directly or indirectly from something he sold us. He probably knew Henri would climb the Vestige's tower if he had full lucidity and wanted to make sure the MC was along for it.