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No no you don't understand, the women need to follow every of MC wishes and have to be super nice to me because otherwise I can't handle it
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Everything you said here is fucking weird. "I never played the game but I know the main character is a shitty person." Give me one specific thing that she said or did that makes you believe she is a shitty person. And the bullshit backstory from the last two updates doesn't count, because people called her shitty before that. I'm sure you'll talk about the glass of water which is the dumbest complaint I ever heard. I can't believe that grown ass men have been making it for the better part of a year. Other than that, what?
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the MC is a loser, he found proof that she went somewhere and didn't tell him, if it was in another game he would confront her for not telling him where she went.
Only after a long time does she explain that she went to meet Tori and he accepts in a good way With that stupid smile.
It was supposed to be a simple game but it dragged on until it was abandoned, in my opinion, in the end, it should have been discussed right at the beginning of the game about the receipt Then again when she went to flirt with the guy at the bar, when she told him about her story he would break up with her and live happily with the blonde.
Only after a long time does she explain that she went to meet Tori and he accepts in a good way With that stupid smile.
It was supposed to be a simple game but it dragged on until it was abandoned, in my opinion, in the end, it should have been discussed right at the beginning of the game about the receipt Then again when she went to flirt with the guy at the bar, when she told him about her story he would break up with her and live happily with the blonde.
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aww did the MC remind you a lil too much of yourself? It happened to a lot of people on this thread who then proceed to complain
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Steph is a manipulator, pushes blame, deflects, isn't sincerely apologetic, and is selfish. I'm basing this from everything I've read from before and after all that info you're talking about was revealed. I'm not saying the MC isn't also some of these things, but you're being really disingenuous with your opinions here. It's okay if you're a simp who wants to defend a character with shitty qualities who isn't a great spouse, but just admit that you're into shitty characters, instead of trying to spin it into something that it's not.
As for you Mr. anyone who disagrees with me is insecure (BangB420). All you do is spam one liners, and project your own bullshit onto others, so you're going straight onto the list, as you are useless to any conversation or topic on here.
I'm officially done with this thread, the only people left are those having a conversation about why the game failed, and those who gobble on game dev's dicks when they feel offended and that the game they like is being attacked.
Putting it on ignore that way I'm not even tempted to come back to waste time with these Steph apologists.
As for you Mr. anyone who disagrees with me is insecure (BangB420). All you do is spam one liners, and project your own bullshit onto others, so you're going straight onto the list, as you are useless to any conversation or topic on here.
I'm officially done with this thread, the only people left are those having a conversation about why the game failed, and those who gobble on game dev's dicks when they feel offended and that the game they like is being attacked.
Putting it on ignore that way I'm not even tempted to come back to waste time with these Steph apologists.
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Okay "I never played the game but I know the main character is a shitty person." whatever you say, whenever you learn to form your own opinions instead of regurgitating other people's opinions come back
At least the dev uploaded the game on steam so people will be able to buy a abandoned game.
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I almost deleted my account on here when this was abandoned that's how upset I was. If people hated Steph so much they should have just moved on. Now I'll never get to see what was going to happen.
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The problem with the glass of water, wasn't the glass of water. The issue was Steph lied and manipulated her husband to fuck Donnie on the sly. If you think that is dumb and find that acceptable well good luck with your future relationships if you're happy to be treated with that much disrespect.
If my wife pulled that shit with me there would be hell to play, not that I have to concern myself with it, she would never dream of treating me with that much disrespect. Just as I would never treat her with that much disrespect. Our open relationship is built of respect for each not disrespect like that.
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She didn't lie and manipulate anything. I'll assume that they were having a threesome in your playthrough. So MC goes to grab a glass of water for Steph and two of the three people who were already fucking continued fucking. That's not disrespect.
Let's change the scenario just slightly. Let's say all three of them are fucking in a threesome. MC has to take a piss. Do Steph and Donnie also have to stop everything until he gets back? To me, one person demanding that high of a level of control over what is supposed to be a pleasurable experience for three equal people is the disrespect. Sounds to me like an open relationship built on obedience, not respect.
And once again, when judging Steph, we have to remember that this entire experience was based on MC wanting to fuck Tori w/ Jason ---- Steph wouldn't even be there! I guess what's good for the gander isn't ok for the goose at all.
Are you sure you've played this game? Go through it again. MC does not go for water on his own initiative, it is an order from Steph. A special quote from Steph for you: s "Yes I sent you to get water to get you out of the room." Steph MANIPULATES MC, she deliberately kicks MC out of the room so she can fuck Donny WITHOUT A HUSBAND. Until the latest version of the game, in all the sex scenes after the bar, Steph always made an effort to fuck Donny without the MC. On the route with Gina, she orders MC to get out of the bedroom and not stop her from fucking Donny. Steph always manipulates the MC.
Open marriage is not MC’s personal initiative; Jason put this idea into MC’s head during his advertising campaign. He made this offer as a result of the Steph/Jason/Tori conspiracy. Steph knew about the offer and was happy about this fact. On a wave of euphoria, Steph will soon have a gangbang; in the evening at home she sucked off MC without taking off her skis.
Steph constantly lies to MC, she lies that she only wants answers. Steph receives all answers on Friday. Give an example of a scene where, having received answers on Friday, Steph confesses to MC. Steph CONSTANTLY LIES and MANIPULATES MC.
Like I said in the post you quoted (and others before), everything except your last sentence was shoe-horned into the plot in the last two updates, when the dev bowed to complaints. So I'm not going to continue to engage with that.
Your last sentence is accurate. I agree completely that the MC did not have a choice as to what direction he wanted to go into AND ALSO continue the game. There are several places throughout the first few days (5 or 6 updates, iirc) that the player can make a choice that leads to a game over. The player had all of these choices, in addition to the overarching meta-choice of not continuing to play a game if they didn't like the game. No one was "railroaded" into continuing to play---and complain about---a game they didn't like.
How long does it take someone to get a glass of water? Maybe where you come from, sex is over in the time it takes someone to get a glass of water. But where I come from, at best it would be just a couple of minutes where Steph and Donnie are alone together, and then I'd be right back with them, continuing the threesome that all three of us got into together.
Also, for the record, I am only talking about the high confidence route. On other routes, there is no presumption of Steph or MC being faithful to each other. Though, since MC brought Gina home without asking Steph, with the obvious intention of fucking her, then Steph fucking Donnie is fair game. Again, MC is the one who started it.
I sincerely think your judgement is being clouded by all those here arguing in bad faith - when they might come from a place of veiled misogyny. Try and tune that out for a moment.
If I was having the first threesome with my girlfriend as an MFF with a girl we met in a bar, I would TOTALLY understand if she felt wistful or got weird if I told her "babe, can you go get me something to drink?" and when she came back the other girl had ramped up the sexual intensity with me.
In my mind, it's not about trying to control the other party, it's about being respectful of your gf/bf's feelings. Particularly during the first time swinging with a significant other, I'd expect both parties be very delicate and considerate with each other. It would be a different context if they had been doing this for months or years.
I didn't get hung up on the water scene as much as others did - my beef was more with the 3rd act Jason/Tori stuff, at the same time I see their discomfort over it as valid.
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Going for a piss is side stepping the issue completely and your snide little remark to imply I'm sexist belittles your argument and is way off. I already ran this by my wife and she is of the same opinion as me, and to quote her, "Don't even think about pulling that shit with me." I do agree the MC is an asshole for what he does and Steph is an asshole for her role. They are both assholes for what they are doing to each other in the bar knowing what we know by the time we get to Steph's reveal. So now we have established everyone is an asshole and dealt with the red herrings you want to throw in to the argument, back to the game.
Steph TELLS him that she did it deliberately to trick him. Its got nothing to do with her being male or female or going for a piss or who said what an hour ago in the bar. Or that she is a woman. Those things are irrelevant. It is one spouse deceiving the other and Steph ADMITS that is what she did. If Steph had been honest and said to the MC she wanted one on one time or lets use your scenario, MC went off for a piss, then that's fine, play on, who cares. That is not what happened. She sent him off on a fake errand that she confesses she did deliberately to get him away so she could make Donnie happy and she got off on the whole situation that she deceived her husband. You don't pull that shit on your spouse in their own bed in their own home, I don't care if your the husband or the wife. Its disrespectful. If you think that sort of disrespect is okay then good for you, don't dismiss it for those of us who have an issue with being deceived.
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Yes exactly. I only would add one thing. My wife and I play, we are continually checking in on each other. We don't even think about it, we just do it almost like a reflex action. Always connecting by touch or eyesight or verbally. Its a constant action for us that we automatically do or learnt to do over the years. She is more attuned than I am, she knows what I'm thinking before I do most of the time. We want to know each other is okay, that each other is enjoying themselves, that each other is safe. Its just respectful to ourselves and each other. We put each other first. Its nothing about control. We aren't trying to control the other, we just want to make sure each other is okay.
The only time there may be 'control' is when one of us says no, then its no for both of us. That's it, no arguing its finished. We don't even ask each other why. Of course we discuss it later and things didn't start out that way in the beginning, but we learned that was the best way to do things, to trust each other because we know the last thing either of us wants to do is hurt each other. Its enough if one of us says no, we figure it is better to miss out on something we can always do again another time then to risk hurting our relationship. Its not perfect, but it works for us 99% of the time.
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