Sadomasochist

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OK, So I'm gonna try to make an in-depth thing here. Some of this stuff has been said, some of this has not. So...

Disclaimers: I am a gay sadomasochist who doesn't give money on Patreon because I don't have an income. I am referencing V:0.1

There is a lot to say about a game and I don't know where to start so I'll just go by order of the description.

The MC: The MC is sexy and believable but (like with most characters) the facial expressions are too cartoonish, especially when more intense emotions are in play. This is player preference and some may like it, I wasn't too big of a fan. The origin story is very female fantasy (which I know because I read porn more than I watch or play it) complete with the innocent protagonist in the sexy situation (usually a personification of lust ala Twilight with vamps/werewolves or 50 shades with a billionaire) here being the literal free use world. All good so far. However, there is the backstory that can't sensibly combine with his actions. If the main character doesn't masturbate and is that religious then him having Sam as a friend considering Sam's unflinching raunch is questionable. Worse yet is his rapey options with the nurse that sensibly lead to a game over. That option, given the characterization, should really not exist if word of god (the MC's words) basically say no masturbating ever. The wimp gets buff is fine, the SPH bully connection also fine, the best friend being with him is fine, his crush being with him is fine but when ALL these characters have some relation to the protagonist then suspension of disbelief is a little hard especially since the only remaining cadet is 1/5 people... and a raunchy black girl who otherwise doesn't fit with the religious setting. However, that is a VERY TINY complaint I can get over. The MC is actually mostly well done. There is also reason to believe that the characters are to have been a likely group given the age justification.

SpaceCorps: Much bigger of a complaint is the SpaceCorps who know that it is morally abhorrent to the cadets to do certain things but force them into it anyway. And it's not like a debriefing or there is consent on what's going to be done. Most of these cadets who serve this military, whose community must have also served in the military would crumble under this reality presuming the cadets were not the first generation to join the corps in this tiny town. There is being broken in the army but this quite clearly isn't that because it isn't quite the molding you go through in army training and you have the comfort of the others (potentially). Oh but wait.

We have 3 introduced members of the corps not counting the cadets or the game over screens: Computer, Nurse, and the alien. The computer is self-aware and rude (which is a big sign of danger and dysfunctionality) the Nurse as revealed with conversations with Sam and the alien has non-consensually masturbated you (she is your superior in a position of power) exclusively. And non-rant but full annoyance venting about the alien:

Alien: First off. Don't get too fancy with the font. It's one thing to do comic sans and papyrus for the sake of characters that aren't there the whole game for comedic purposes, but the alien has a font that while not illegible, is an eyesore. This would be good with short bursts of anger combined with an increased font size to be used for fewer than 3 words. But it is not sexy. Furthermore, when you first see her you have 4 possible interactions. (if memory serves) 1 leads to a game over (harlot) 2 lead to rejection and only 1 leads to sex which (if memory serves) was about asking for directions. And it's quite clear that the alien took advantage of you.

Disclaimer: I am not upset by rape in games. I greatly prefer it. However, this is a 1 foot in 1 foot out way of doing things and it ends up being the worst of both worlds.

Alien (cont): The alien lead you to a dark corridor and tongue fucked you because she misleads you and forced herself on you. Not complying has a relationship penalty and punching her and running away (which is the rational action) is explained with a game over justifying itself. In reality, this didn't end up being rape because she stops and asks for consent. This is dub-con and your character consenting to this (mostly passively) leaves a sour taste. Worse yet is the anger she feels when you give her oral. Though there was no consent to oral, she was literally sucking your dick so to the player, this is a distinction without a difference treated as a horrible act giving you a game over. I am lead to believe that her acts are lesser than yours here because of the severity despite her escalation. What does that tie into?

Consent whiplash: It is OK for a nurse to check your balls while playing music and having a computer read out your size. It is not OK to molest this nurse (I am OK with this, she is doing her job but it is whiplash). It is OK by many people reviewing the examinations if the nurse jacks you off and exchanges cum with you even if not done to other cadets. It is OK for the Alien to lead you down a dark hall and start sucking you with a tongue unless you don't like tits in which case she reveals she deeply cares about consent. But punching this person for this is a game over screen and entering her mouth is also a game over because of the lack of consent. It is OK to make people strip in front of each other even if their morals disagree with it because of the mandatory service. It is OK to destroy hair because of the viruses nevermind the 7% chance of death to the individuals which people are also cool with (the odds of success that all of them survive is just under 70% btw) and oh boy what a happy group to all do it together I'm certain that these people 4/5 of which are related to or are the protagonist would not at all be affected by a death. Not a single person would be bothered by that which is why they insist on making everyone strip and shower together so they die with eyeballs on them. It is also OK for the COMPUTER to not ask for confirmation that they understand and consent to this.

The consent ethos: This is my Steelman for what counts as consent: Overly aggressive behavior especially in your voice is threatening and needs to be dealt with. NO means NO when it comes to intercourse with nudity and risk of death not counting. Explanations must exist but understanding is implied. Do not make a move on your superiors. NO is effectively a sexual safeword your superiors cannot bypass. It is OK to defend yourself against assault superiors get discretion cadets must have said NO.

The Cadets: I like the guys. I am gay so not super surprising. But yeah, I don't think many will care for the black girl considering the raunch is excessive and she doesn't feel like a full on slut. Anna is fine I guess but I'd be interested in hearing how much people like her. She feels fleshed out but not so much like a character. Sam is a suspension of disbelief but he is great for bringing spirits up and I wanna see where things could go with him. Jared is fine so far I think he's been reacting appropriately to things and I have more to say about him specifically.

Jared: God I want to hurt him! My username and the disclaimer should indicate my sexual interests. I like this character so far and if I can get a sadist/slave relationship with him I'd be so happy about that because that is a good character for fetish fuel. I do hope that's a fine extension and not just a game over condition because man, do I wanna hurt him! It'd also be a cool easter egg to just have your size and file and his where yours and his are the exact same size with the exception of yours was inches his are cm.

The gameplay: I savescummed A LOT. There are a ton of bad endings which the perversion scale kinda encourages. I want to accumulate fetishes not because I really love them but because it'll just be content. In a game like Lilith's Throne, Free Cities, Accidental Woman and the like, fetishes are always just content that can appear and it's OK to not engage with it because you won't be missing out on much. Here, because this isn't random enemies and characters each thing has to be carefully made. So I'm going for fetishes I don't strictly want because it may get a lost scene. I also don't wanna reject anyone so I'm doing stuff I otherwise wouldn't.

The color codes are great and I want more devs to use them. A quick request though: can you make homosexual content blue as opposed to pink? It's the opposite color I think of when I think of men.

I don't think this needs a walkthrough, but an in-game flowchart.

The Patreon in your face: I'm fine with it. It's OK you devs need to make money and I think this is fine so long as it doesn't go much farther than that. Blocking off content until the next release is fine. Doing it forever is not that great. Flaunt it as much as you think sensible but to overtly say that this isn't something accessible to non paying members is a bit much and is much too much if forever.
 

Odin Eye Patch

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love this so for named my guy James Kirk felt right but i like that the game give you alot of choice make me think of mass effect hope it will have a long story definitely looking forward to the next update
 
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meigame

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Well thank you very much. I enjoyed your game. Nice to have some bi stuff here. I'm looking forward to committing every depraved act I can on every species in the galaxy. Fun times. thanks again
 

jayjaymax

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I give the same amount of importance to the gameplay (Reason no.1 I don't play RPGM games) and story no matter what genre of game it is and this one was fun and funny and the features that are teased in the game look promising. The story is well written and in places it is ridiculous, but it in a good way, adding humor to the plot. Also thought the idea of southern vibes in space was hilarious. I couldn't figure out how to access certain scenes involving the memory interface in the game. Maybe it's not integrated yet? Also since I like tinkering with the code and the dev is in here, the animated scenes can be made less jerky (pun totally intended) by using the dissolve effect. You probably were going to do this anyway, but thought I'd mention this just in case and save you some research time.

show an_animation:
"images/image1.png" with Dissolve(0.2, alpha=False)
pause 0.2
"images/image2.png" with Dissolve(0.2, alpha=False)
pause 0.2
"images/image3.png" with Dissolve(0.2, alpha=False)
pause 0.2
"images/image4.png" with Dissolve(0.2, alpha=False)
pause 0.2
repeat
pause
 

RanliLabz

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I give the same amount of importance to the gameplay (Reason no.1 I don't play RPGM games) and story no matter what genre of game it is and this one was fun and funny and the features that are teased in the game look promising. The story is well written and in places it is ridiculous, but it in a good way, adding humor to the plot. Also thought the idea of southern vibes in space was hilarious. I couldn't figure out how to access certain scenes involving the memory interface in the game. Maybe it's not integrated yet? Also since I like tinkering with the code and the dev is in here, the animated scenes can be made less jerky by using the dissolve effect. You probably were going to do this anyway, but thought I'd mention this just in case and save you some research time.
Thanks for the tip! Any others would be greatly appreciated - Ren'Py's got so big now (and with so much outdated documentation) that I think only PyTom really understands it. :D Brilliant engine though!
 
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Carpe Stultus

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Prize for being the first to notice the Troopers reference! "I need a corporal. You're it, until you're dead or I find someone better."
Of course i did, you didn't really try to hide it.

I expect the best and I give the best. Here's the beer. Here's the entertainment. Now have fun. That's an order!
 
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SirTwist

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I haven't played the game. This is not anything more than just giving a couple thoughts, ideas, here. For overall size reduction, keeping resolution, and quality use .jpg instead of .png. You might lose a little resolution, or crispness, but you might not. The other idea, is be up front and say you want people to go to patreon, and donate towards a render rig. Anyway, I will give the game a try soon enough. And post my thoughts on the game itself. This post was to try and give a couple thoughts about things and help out, maybe. Please do not think I am criticizing anything here.
 

Edvin

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Wow, MC is batshit ugly.
Orange hair and the expression "Please do not rape me" ?
Who thought that this is a good idea?
 
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Sadomasochist

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Wow, MC is batshit ugly.
Orange hair and the expression "Please do not rape me" ?
Who thought that this is a good idea?
I personally think he looks drop dead gorgeous... except when he's emoting. Orange hair works well enough given the backstory and theme. But the expressions are just a bit too cartoonish. This was a great v0.1 I just hope work gets done on that front
 

JamesM82

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Wow, MC is batshit ugly.
Orange hair and the expression "Please do not rape me" ?
Who thought that this is a good idea?
I personally find him super hot!!! And the cartoon-ish expresions dont mind at all. Is a fantasy sex game character dont need to be realistic like a real human being!

Just my humble opinion
 
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RanliLabz

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I personally think he looks drop dead gorgeous... except when he's emoting. Orange hair works well enough given the backstory and theme. But the expressions are just a bit too cartoonish. This was a great v0.1 I just hope work gets done on that front
Thanks, sadomasochist... and thanks for the enormous piece of feedback you gave earlier! On the cartoonish expressions: that was a deliberate design choice, to echo the kitschy vibe (and dodgy acting) of Starship Troopers, Babylon 5 and Fifth Element. I feel it fits the tongue-in-cheek story and dialogue - but as the character progresses he'll become less naïve and more dissolute, and correspondingly less cartoony.

I'm glad you fancy the main character (even if he is a carrot-top!), I've had really good feedback about him. I'm also pleased that you want to punish Jared as much as I'm planning him to suffer! This is a bit down the line, but I'm thinking about 3 optional routes: Humiliation (SPH, cuck, revenge, etc) as a 'Straight' route; Transformation (for those into TS/TG); and Domination (gay and bisexual). All make him your bitch :devilish:.

I'm gonna look into your idea of an in-game flowchart - it's a really nice idea that I haven't seen done elsewhere. It's quite a lot of programming, graphics work and reconfiguring the interfaces, though, so I doubt it will make the next version.
 
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