Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.40.0] [Selebus]

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DeSkel15

DeSkel15

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Xiondingens said:
Are Ayane and Kirin even still enemies? I mean sure, the friendship is gone for good. But i dont remember anything lately that would show those two to be enemies. :unsure:
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They are actually still friends if you missed the Kirin Blackmail stuff. Unfortunately it was an optional arc and doesn't necessarily matter so far.
 
lolbob3

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siegabro said:
Also, all this talk about Ayane and Noriko made me realize smth hilarious. If they really are two most similar main characters, then Noriko's best friend, Kirin, is Ayane's worst enemy. Just like Noriko's lifelong foe, Maya, is one of Ayane's closest friends (and probably the closest one in Ch3, when Ami loses her marbles for good).
We need more interactions between these two and their friend groups :KEK:
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Now we just need Maya to become best friends with Kirin, is something like that even possible?

Hmm maybe New Maya could walk in on Kirin while Akira is banging her, that would be interesting too now that I think about it, maybe after they somehow become friends too. :sneaky:
 
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Xiondingens

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DeSkel15 said:
They are actually still friends if you missed the Kirin Blackmail stuff. Unfortunately it was an optional arc and doesn't necessarily matter so far.
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Oh yeah, you are right. I completely forgot that this was optional. And now that i think about it, that was the wrong decision. Because now he cant really do anything with it because it was optional. What a missed oppurtunity.
 
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Xiondingens

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Omg, i just did realize that it is even worse. Because it is optional and the game so linear, they are now both in a quantum state of been enemies and friends at the same time. So their friendship effectively still "ended" because they will have no big events together as friends, because that would be an event that wouldnt be impossible on the 100% route where they are no longer friends. And they also can no longer hang out with each other, because that as well would contradict their current state in the 100% route. So except maybe some lippservice, they are no longer actual friends. And that fact is what made it so easy to forget that choice was optional, because the fallout will be felt in the overall story either way.

Oh god, this really doesnt feel like it had been planned out at all.
 
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Being a pussy and letting everyone walk over you isn't a sign of "kindness" but "weakness"
LessonsInDissonance said:
1. Touka
2. Noriko
3. Futaba
4. Uta
5. Kirin

to those surprised to see futaba on the top 3, being gentle is not the same as being altruistic. I feel like it's very close between Noriko and Futaba, because while Futaba let's a lot of shit slide, it does feel like she has a very small sassy side.
Noriko when dissected properly is actually one of the kindest characters in the game. She got verbally abused by Prime maya and fake maya, she gets treated like shit all the time by multiple characters and always let's everything slide and just wants everybody to be happy regardless of what they do to her.
Nobody would've reacted the way she did when she found a certain uncle getting touchy with his niece while hiding in the closet.
Touka is the most kindest and altruistic person out of any character in the game. She is literally the beacon of "mommy" and the one who tries to take care of everybody, even if they are scumbags. Just because she has character and can be strict doesn't mean she cant be kind at the same time. She will go out of her way to make things hard for herself if it means being able to help someone. She will literally let anything slide and forgive you for all and will support you even financially, and she would do this even if she wasn't rich, in my opinion.

Uta just isn't as kind as the top 3 and Kirin doesn't need an explanation

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I missread Karin for Kirin.

This whole list goes to shit now.

ill just put Karin top 2 behind touka. She really will do anything to help anyone. Could possibly compete with Touka.
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Yeah that comment about because "Touka is rich therefore she can't be kind" is just really weird. And ironically enough, someone who evaluates the character of people based on things they had no control over just kinda sounds like an asshole. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Xiondingens

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ratmanirl said:
Yeah that comment about because "Touka is rich therefore she can't be kind" is just really weird. And ironically enough, someone who evaluates the character of people based on things they had no control over just kinda sounds like an asshole. :ROFLMAO:
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Yeah and if you had read the comment, you would maybe would have even noticed that i didnt talked about been kind, but about altruistic. Making a comment to someone you cant even be bothered to read, lets you kinda sound like an asshole.
 
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I second that she had a mental disorder. When it comes to that, i would even go so far to say every single character in the game has at least one. And that this is intential.
 
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Nunyo

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The Maya conversations are going the wrong direction. She actually hates you more the more points you start getting in there.

Friendship is not a ON/OFF binary thing. OFF OFF OFF, then suddenly ON (Friend Received!!!). It's a gradual thing that should happen as she learns more about the other person.

The entire character, Maya, should be re-thought/re-written to stop breaking the 4th wall every time she speaks. We have these walls for a reason, so that conversations don't confuse people and the character doesn't become impossible to believe she exists.

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