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That is why i said, depending on how you look at the locker room event. There is also the chance that in that locker room nothing happens at all. It all depends on the order you did certain events in.also sumo aka yamo had the whole thing with incest girl soooo
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I'd rank Touka, Karin, and Noriko as the top 3 easily. Probably in that order.Since Sel wont answer the tough question how are these 5 ranked respectively?
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I'm surprised there isn't Ayane in the original question - she always struck me as a very kind character, just a bit more developed. Meaning, she had encountered hostility more and learned to stand her ground (e.g. against Kirin), which may make her look less kind (but doesn't really).Since Sel wont answer the tough question how are these 5 ranked respectively?
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Sumo gets blackmailed by wannabe daughter, which ends up the reason why she did beat the shit out of her later and did return to her mobster family for a while.Remind me what happened in the locker room. I forgot
I think Ayane's kindness is more like a mask she wears.I'm surprised there isn't Ayane in the original question - she always struck me as a very kind character, just a bit more developed. Meaning, she had encountered hostility more and learned to stand her ground (e.g. against Kirin), which may make her look less kind (but doesn't really).
Since there was Noriko in the question and since I forcefully injected Ayane here, here's smth I've been thinking about: am I the only one who thinks Noriko and Ayane basically have the same personality, just with different life situations?
1. Both are kind to a fault. Ayane deeply loves people around her and seeing them getting hurt really gets to her, like finding Ami stabbed in the last reset or Maya getting reset now. Her default attitude to all around her is exceptionally friendly and, unlike other friendly girls, there is not as much room for jealosy (Chika) or anger (Rin comes to mind). Her kindness hurts her as she cares about Sensei to the point of tolerating him cheating on her and accepts other girls being in love with him.
Meanwhile, Noriko being a martyr is explicitly stated in the story, and it is quite convincing, so I don't even feel like recounting arguments.
2. Both are brave. Ayane keeps positive attitude in the face of timeloops and apocalypse, stands up to Kirin, and does a million more little things, like driving away Yumi when she picks on Futaba in the shower, etc. Noriko never gave up on searching for Sensei and was brave enough to show him Niki's old letters when she felt it could endanger their relationship but was a right thing to do.
3. Both are cheerful and friendly. Ayane and Noriko light up the room and make friends with the most unlikely characters, like Ayane with Sana or Noriko with Yumi.
4. Both obsess about Sensei and are fake yanderes initially. These are more superficial qualities, but they work even better in terms of proving similarities. Ayane and Noriko are the only ones who openly proclaimed their undying love for Sensei as soon as they got the chance. And they both at the start of their storylines seemed the craziest and the most fixated on him. Heck, as stereotypical yanderes they are the only ones known for constantly carrying weapons (Noriko's knife and Ayane's various assortment of guns and swords).
I do feel like they're the same character, just with different quirks and places in the story. There are, of course, little things unique to each one of them, e.g. Ayane wanting to have a shit ton of kids and Noriko being an idealistic rebel with creative (musical) drive. But these are details, and I feel like the only real differences are circumstantial - their situations being different. Noriko's story seems to be about unreciprocated (yet) love, being a martyr and a constant second place, and her keeping her rightiousness and idealism in spite of this. Ayane, I feel, is more about loving in the face of adversity - blackmail, cheating, competition.
And I wouldn't say that there is something wrong with these two having the same basic characteristics - unique situations are enough for their stories to play out differently and in an entertaining way. I'm just trying to sort out my own confusion about this, as I feel like I enjoy Noriko the most out of all the characters, yet there is Ayane, who is nearly identical to her in most regards, but she is somehow a bit lower on my tierlist.
What do you people think?
The Sensei Love Squad is on the opposite end of the kindness spectrum. Like in the same group as Kirin and Io.I'm surprised there isn't Ayane in the original question - she always struck me as a very kind character, just a bit more developed. Meaning, she had encountered hostility more and learned to stand her ground (e.g. against Kirin), which may make her look less kind (but doesn't really).
Since there was Noriko in the question and since I forcefully injected Ayane here, here's smth I've been thinking about: am I the only one who thinks Noriko and Ayane basically have the same personality, just with different life situations?
1. Both are kind to a fault. Ayane deeply loves people around her and seeing them getting hurt really gets to her, like finding Ami stabbed in the last reset or Maya getting reset now. Her default attitude to all around her is exceptionally friendly and, unlike other friendly girls, there is not as much room for jealosy (Chika) or anger (Rin comes to mind). Her kindness hurts her as she cares about Sensei to the point of tolerating him cheating on her and accepts other girls being in love with him.
Meanwhile, Noriko being a martyr is explicitly stated in the story, and it is quite convincing, so I don't even feel like recounting arguments.
2. Both are brave. Ayane keeps positive attitude in the face of timeloops and apocalypse, stands up to Kirin, and does a million more little things, like driving away Yumi when she picks on Futaba in the shower, etc. Noriko never gave up on searching for Sensei and was brave enough to show him Niki's old letters when she felt it could endanger their relationship but was a right thing to do.
3. Both are cheerful and friendly. Ayane and Noriko light up the room and make friends with the most unlikely characters, like Ayane with Sana or Noriko with Yumi.
4. Both obsess about Sensei and are fake yanderes initially. These are more superficial qualities, but they work even better in terms of proving similarities. Ayane and Noriko are the only ones who openly proclaimed their undying love for Sensei as soon as they got the chance. And they both at the start of their storylines seemed the craziest and the most fixated on him. Heck, as stereotypical yanderes they are the only ones known for constantly carrying weapons (Noriko's knife and Ayane's various assortment of guns and swords).
I do feel like they're the same character, just with different quirks and places in the story. There are, of course, little things unique to each one of them, e.g. Ayane wanting to have a shit ton of kids and Noriko being an idealistic rebel with creative (musical) drive. But these are details, and I feel like the only real differences are circumstantial - their situations being different. Noriko's story seems to be about unreciprocated (yet) love, being a martyr and a constant second place, and her keeping her rightiousness and idealism in spite of this. Ayane, I feel, is more about loving in the face of adversity - blackmail, cheating, competition.
And I wouldn't say that there is something wrong with these two having the same basic characteristics - unique situations are enough for their stories to play out differently and in an entertaining way. I'm just trying to sort out my own confusion about this, as I feel like I enjoy Noriko the most out of all the characters, yet there is Ayane, who is nearly identical to her in most regards, but she is somehow a bit lower on my tierlist.
What do you people think?
you know what you are right (no really you are) I will delete my comment as I said it in the vain of poking fun at myself did not really think of the ramifications of itDon't deliberately spoil shit for people dude. Even a vague suggestion still fucks with a persons expectations and experience.
I agree and was a very stupid move on my part really I do apologize I will be more careful from now onIt's not because it's a spoiler that that post pisses me off, we talk mostly freely here, you come in after a patch you'll probably get spoiled, what shits me is deliberately spoiling the story for someone, going out of your way to to spoil someone is just a dick move, a complete and total dick move.
Hey, at least you didn't let slip that Godzilla turns up as a love interest.... Oops.I agree and was a very stupid move on my part really I do apologize I will be more careful from now on
Of course he won't answer it (I wouldn't either in his shoes), not something easily quantifiable and not something even half of his crowd would agree completely upon any said answer; just look at the thread lol.Since Sel wont answer the tough question how are these 5 ranked respectively?
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I agree that Ayane should also be put into this little contest due to her act of fending off Yumi for Futaba like you've mentioned, being immediately accommodating to Miku's situation (Pry With a Smile), and checking on Ami with seemingly genuine worry in heart and not accusation after learning the bad uncle truth (The Way it Scatters). In fact I think she at least should be ranked higher than Uta.I'm surprised there isn't Ayane in the original question - she always struck me as a very kind character, just a bit more developed. Meaning, she had encountered hostility more and learned to stand her ground (e.g. against Kirin), which may make her look less kind (but doesn't really).
Since there was Noriko in the question and since I forcefully injected Ayane here, here's smth I've been thinking about: am I the only one who thinks Noriko and Ayane basically have the same personality, just with different life situations?
1. Both are kind to a fault. Ayane deeply loves people around her and seeing them getting hurt really gets to her, like finding Ami stabbed in the last reset or Maya getting reset now. Her default attitude to all around her is exceptionally friendly and, unlike other friendly girls, there is not as much room for jealosy (Chika) or anger (Rin comes to mind). Her kindness hurts her as she cares about Sensei to the point of tolerating him cheating on her and accepts other girls being in love with him.
Meanwhile, Noriko being a martyr is explicitly stated in the story, and it is quite convincing, so I don't even feel like recounting arguments.
2. Both are brave. Ayane keeps positive attitude in the face of timeloops and apocalypse, stands up to Kirin, and does a million more little things, like driving away Yumi when she picks on Futaba in the shower, etc. Noriko never gave up on searching for Sensei and was brave enough to show him Niki's old letters when she felt it could endanger their relationship but was a right thing to do.
3. Both are cheerful and friendly. Ayane and Noriko light up the room and make friends with the most unlikely characters, like Ayane with Sana or Noriko with Yumi.
4. Both obsess about Sensei and are fake yanderes initially. These are more superficial qualities, but they work even better in terms of proving similarities. Ayane and Noriko are the only ones who openly proclaimed their undying love for Sensei as soon as they got the chance. And they both at the start of their storylines seemed the craziest and the most fixated on him. Heck, as stereotypical yanderes they are the only ones known for constantly carrying weapons (Noriko's knife and Ayane's various assortment of guns and swords).
I do feel like they're the same character, just with different quirks and places in the story. There are, of course, little things unique to each one of them, e.g. Ayane wanting to have a shit ton of kids and Noriko being an idealistic rebel with creative (musical) drive. But these are details, and I feel like the only real differences are circumstantial - their situations being different. Noriko's story seems to be about unreciprocated (yet) love, being a martyr and a constant second place, and her keeping her rightiousness and idealism in spite of this. Ayane, I feel, is more about loving in the face of adversity - blackmail, cheating, competition.
And I wouldn't say that there is something wrong with these two having the same basic characteristics - unique situations are enough for their stories to play out differently and in an entertaining way. I'm just trying to sort out my own confusion about this, as I feel like I enjoy Noriko the most out of all the characters, yet there is Ayane, who is nearly identical to her in most regards, but she is somehow a bit lower on my tierlist.
What do you people think?
I think Ayane wanting to have sex on Ami's bed is probably the strongest counterargument to her kindness. But I always wrote it off as some mix of horniness and confusion, like acting out some guilty and forbidden desire. And it was still early on in her story (Ch2?), way before she found out about the time loops and stood up to Kirin. And even then she seemed remorseful. IIRC, she was then under a strong influence of the whole Kirin situation, and this feels like smth Kirin would do to assert dominance and get a secret petty revenge. It's as if Ayane was further poisoned by Kirin. But I view Ayane's later development as rejecting this way of doing things.has tried to fuck him on the beds of her best friends
Noriko is very similar here. Just like Ayane, she wants to be the one. A notable difference would be her sex positivity and agreeing to let people lilke Kirin have her way with Sensei, but at the end of the day she wants to be the only one he really loves.Ayane - "I'm the only one.
Not sure what you meant here. I interpreted this as Ayane referencing her encounter with Himawari and Himawari's promise that all shall be well and Ami wouldn't hurt her, so I didn't notice anything hostile to Maya here.Ayane may have even played a part in Maya's crumbling based off how she was acting before it:
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Ayane - "Unfortunately, I promised I wouldn't tell you. It's nothing but good news, though. For me, definitely. And...for all of us. I think. But that last part is more of an expectation than actually knowing."
I wouldn't contrast Ayane to some extent wanting to take Maya's place with Noriko wishing her competitors good luck in a spirit of sportsmanship. Because here I see some of the clearest similarities:Yasu implied she knew Ayane wanted to take Maya's place
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Noriko on the other hand wishes Ayane luck in her pursuit of Sensei
But one could also argue that Noriko's actions are fueled by fear in that regard. What if all that keeps Akira from running away again is his reconnection to Nikki? How could she risk loosing him again by actually doing anything that could risk that connection?Just like that, this is the whole conflict in Noriko's story, where she can't help but be jealous of her sister, yet tries to make her own path. Both Ayane and Noriko handle this with grace.
1. ToukaSince Sel wont answer the tough question how are these 5 ranked respectively?
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funny how Miku, Ami and Kirin give off loli vibes whilst being taller than Maya, who doesn't give off loli vibes.The most recent height chart wont render for some reason so here is the older one.
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