- Apr 23, 2018
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thanks for the credit, but I think it's @Tremonia that should get the credit here
Thanks, mate, I corrected it to "Tremonia".
But you were, of course, also right about Lexi as a protagonist.
thanks for the credit, but I think it's @Tremonia that should get the credit here
I hear what you are saying, but I am not sure that is purely strength that Cece is relying on there. I don't believe she ever REALLY wanted to do what she does, she was looking for an escape. "FIXING" the MC gave her a type of escape she could focus on instead of fixating on her own issues so much. Then, when it stopped being the distraction because he "was fixed" she began looking for that escape again.Cece struggles with her issues, sure. but, for me, she still carries everyone else on top of her own struggles and issues.
that's why I think she is stronger. and she only let herself back on the "fragile" side once she "fixed" everyone
insightful opinion here, thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to write it.I hear what you are saying, but I am not sure that is purely strength that Cece is relying on there. I don't believe she ever REALLY wanted to do what she does, she was looking for an escape. "FIXING" the MC gave her a type of escape she could focus on instead of fixating on her own issues so much. Then, when it stopped being the distraction because he "was fixed" she began looking for that escape again.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that she doesn't have strength, but I think we see her strength most after chapter 6, especially when she makes the hard choice to get help. That is her strongest moment. It's not what she does for everyone else that shows her strength, that just shows her kindness. Strength is shown when she stops focusing on everyone else and faces her issues head on.
I know that I post a lot about how much I love Lexi, but that doesn't mean that I don't love and admire Cece as well.
Yes, that sounds about right to me as well.I hear what you are saying, but I am not sure that is purely strength that Cece is relying on there. I don't believe she ever REALLY wanted to do what she does, she was looking for an escape. "FIXING" the MC gave her a type of escape she could focus on instead of fixating on her own issues so much. Then, when it stopped being the distraction because he "was fixed" she began looking for that escape again.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that she doesn't have strength, but I think we see her strength most after chapter 6, especially when she makes the hard choice to get help. That is her strongest moment. It's not what she does for everyone else that shows her strength, that just shows her kindness. Strength is shown when she stops focusing on everyone else and faces her issues head on.
I know that I post a lot about how much I love Lexi, but that doesn't mean that I don't love and admire Cece as well.
Yeah, even though I haven’t ended the game yet, I can believe that it will be really hard for me to leave Lexi behind. She just seems so vulnerable and lonely. And I somehow really like her. ^^insightful opinion here, thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to write it.
Lexi is amazing! after completing her route once, it's incredibly hard to choose another LI in ep4
Welcome to the family, brother !Yes, that sounds about right to me as well.
Cece is a person who is very kind and gives a lot of her own to help others.
I think she simply puts the needs of others above her own needs.
But if everything seemed solved, she came back to her own needs and plans.
It feels like she is trying to suppress her feelings and do something else instead of facing her problems.
Yeah, even though I haven’t ended the game yet, I can believe that it will be really hard for me to leave Lexi behind. She just seems so vulnerable and lonely. And I somehow really like her. ^^
I can't bring myself to finish the game yet; it’s just too sad that it's already over.
Yeah, BUT... Lexi has multiple endings and all the other girls have at least one ending, and Honestly they are all deserving of atleast one play-through, so yeah, you are at one ending, but there's still so much left to discover!Yeah, even though I haven’t ended the game yet, I can believe that it will be really hard for me to leave Lexi behind. She just seems so vulnerable and lonely. And I somehow really like her. ^^
I can't bring myself to finish the game yet; it’s just too sad that it's already over.
Not really, you've pretty much seen everything already, I mean, all other paths are pretty wholesome.I played Cece's path (which I am confident is the true heroine of the game) a while ago.
Is Lexi path heartbreaking? I am craving some despair.
Meh ... I don't think any one path is more canon than the other. I do think Cece and Lexi are the "primary" paths -- by that I mean they're the paths the dev expects to be played the most.Not really, you've pretty much seen everything already, I mean, all other paths are pretty wholesome.
And it's just my take here, but for me, both Steph and Cece's path feels a little more "canon" if I can say. But all the path a really good and I enjoy all of theme. Linda's path is really fun because some of her dialogue changes if you are on her path and I think she got really funny lines tho.
It becomes heartbreaking if you bring Holly in a 3-way relationship with Lexi and then decide to be only with Holly and dump Lexi at the end. To add drama you can set up Chris with Robin and break Kira & Robin relationship as well (or tell Kira that you're not ok with 3-way relationship at the beginning of the game AND not set up Chris with Robin or everybody else - then they will break up and stay single - even worse). 2-3 sneaky bastardish moves in one playthrough. If it's still not enough, you can also left Steph unforgiven and not invite her to the Lexi's place to add more on the top of this pile of shit and Linda also stays single then. Probably the worst ending you can achieve. While the Cece path on the contrary allows you to make everyone happy if you want to (Lexi + Holly, Kira + Robin, Linda + Chris, Steph is happy to back to her work and be forgiven, MC + Cece and she doesn't left, all girls stays in touch and remains good friends).I played Cece's path (which I am confident is the true heroine of the game) a while ago.
Is Lexi path heartbreaking? I am craving some despair.
I like a happy ending (or an unexpected one where hardly anybody survives e.g. No One Lives, 2012.... the Cece path on the contrary allows you to make everyone happy if you want to (Lexi + Holly, Kira + Robin, Linda + Chris, Steph is happy to back to her work and be forgiven, MC + Cece and she doesn't left, all girls stays in touch and remains good friends).
I know what you mean, like I said it just for me, it's "feels" that way for me. I did the Steph's path first and even with the weird super spy thing, it just felt right if I can say.Meh ... I don't think any one path is more canon than the other. I do think Cece and Lexi are the "primary" paths -- by that I mean they're the paths the dev expects to be played the most.
That said, I think Cece's path may be a bit of wish fulfilment on the dev's part, while Lexi's paths kinda feel like fantasy fulfilment (whether of the dev or just in general I don't know) on multiple levels (That said, we know Holly becoming an LI was a late development due to demand. But her solo path, while the most painful in some ways, is one of the more poignant to me).
That said, I definitely think Linda's path has as much agency (no pun intended) as Steph's path, and the triumvirate of Kira/Robin paths -- while they do feel tertiary to the other paths -- have their own messages to send.
Also, there are multiple Leap of Faith cameos out there which acknowledge different girls as canon, basically proving there is no one canon path.
Lexi's isn't, but Holly solo path is heartbreaking for Lexi...I played Cece's path (which I am confident is the true heroine of the game) a while ago.
Is Lexi path heartbreaking? I am craving some despair.
Okay, never did the screw Kira and Robin paths ... that explains the missing scenes.It becomes heartbreaking if you bring Holly in a 3-way relationship with Lexi and then decide to be only with Holly and dump Lexi at the end. To add drama you can set up Chris with Robin and break Kira & Robin relationship as well (or tell Kira that you're not ok with 3-way relationship at the beginning of the game AND not set up Chris with Robin or everybody else - then they will break up and stay single - even worse). 2-3 sneaky bastardish moves in one playthrough. If it's still not enough, you can also left Steph unforgiven and not invite her to the Lexi's place to add more on the top of this pile of shit and Linda also stays single then. Probably the worst ending you can achieve. While the Cece path on the contrary allows you to make everyone happy if you want to (Lexi + Holly, Kira + Robin, Linda + Chris, Steph is happy to back to her work and be forgiven, MC + Cece and she doesn't left, all girls stays in touch and remains good friends).
You haven't even scratched the surface ... Probably the most definitive (for their games) are:I know what you mean, like I said it just for me, it's "feels" that way for me. I did the Steph's path first and even with the weird super spy thing, it just felt right if I can say.
But I think all paths are writing in a sense to not only send a message, like you said, but also to be wholesome and amazing in their own way.
For the cameos, I know I saw Lexi & Cece in Fog of War.
Ohhh, I actually played Chasing Sunsets, you're right, it slipped my mind!You haven't even scratched the surface ... Probably the most definitive (for their games) are:
For Lexi ending: Artemis (she has a couple of actual appearances, including more playing with the matching MCs) and Chasing Sunsets (the other side of the selfie and a newspaper clipping announcing the engagement)
and for Cece ending: Dreams of Reality (the full conversation with the lady outside the hospital)
Artemis is Top Tier. The other one I'm still going to play eventually, but it was harder to get into.Ohhh, I actually played Chasing Sunsets, you're right, it slipped my mind!
The two other games are now in my watchlist, I'll check to downloaded them tonight. Thanks!
If you've not played the "other one" at all yet, then you're in better shape than me. I played it up to release 6 or 7, and then they changed the RenPy engine in the next release and borked saves for a bunch of people. With all the "achievements" in the VN, I had many different routes going, and now I'm at least two releases behind since I'm not ready to do a full replay of every route. I'm doing a couple of "Finales" that will keep me busy for at least a week or two and I'm debating whether I go back and do that one, or try one of the ones I haven't started yet that looks really good - there are many on the list, but two or three that stand out based on feedback I've seen from people I respect here.Artemis is Top Tier. The other one I'm still going to play eventually, but it was harder to get into.