Why do you think there are not too many femdom games?

[mimininos]

Seems like there are not too many good femdom games. There's the new one made by Zenkuro. There are the ones made by Darktoz. There's the one with the witch made in Unreal by NumericGazer and that's pretty much it, no? Why do you think it's like that?

It's quiet interesting to me. Since femdom/bdsm falls more on the side of fantasy than reality, you can have very cool, fun games with very interesting stories taking place, for example, in a neo-noir, sci-fi dystopian setting, with femme fatales and femme castratrices. Am I the only one who thinks like that? Don't you think there has to be more developers playing with this genre?

Or, it's like this because it doesn't sell well?

 

[Meaning Less]

There are 2k total games using either femdom/bdsm tag, thats more than the total of incest games 1.5k.

Doesn't sound that bad to me.

 

[Frosty2000]

Seems like there are not too many good femdom games. There's the new one made by Zenkuro. There are the ones made by Darktoz. There's the one with the witch made in Unreal by NumericGazer and that's pretty much it, no? Why do you think it's like that?

It's quiet interesting to me. Since femdom/bdsm falls more on the side of fantasy than reality, you can have very cool, fun games with very interesting stories taking place, for example, in a neo-noir, sci-fi dystopian setting, with femme fatales and femme castratrices. Am I the only one who thinks like that? Don't you think there has to be more developers playing with this genre?

Or, it's like this because it doesn't sell well?

"Tower of Trample" is a great femdom game. Unfortunately development has been very slow the last couple odf years. Still good amount of content there from before.

Then we have "Karlsson's Gambit", which is very good and has a very dependable developer. Same for the femdom game "Moving Down". We also have great games like "Nothing is forever" who are not pure femdom games, but have a well fleshed out femdom path for people who like that.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

Niche market. Most of the people playing porn games either want to dominate women, or want to be dominated by men. You're also further decreasing the size of that niche by combining it with BDSM. There's a little over 1000 games with the female domination tag. That drops down to about 700 if you want to play as a male protagonist and about 500 if you don't want male domination at all. But femdom combined with BDSM only has about 300 games, and that's without specifying PC gender or excluding male domination. All tags and blacklisting together you're down to about 100 games.

PS I was amused to find Summertime Saga, and it's knockoff Prince of Suburbia, still show up with this particular tag combination.

 

[Meaning Less]

There's a little over 1000 games with the female domination tag.

There is also exactly 1k maledom games, so where is your agument that one is more popular than the other?

total of 747 maledom only, 724 femdom only and 319 with both tags, sounds very balanced to me.

Most of the people playing porn games either want to dominate women, or want to be dominated by men.

In fact this statement is false, 553 femdom exclusive games where you play as male and only 151 maledom exclusive games where you play as female...

 

[Deleted member 440241]

There is also exactly 1k maledom games, so where is your agument that one is more popular than the other?

total of 747 maledom only, 724 femdom only and 319 with both tags, sounds very balanced to me.

In fact this statement is false, 553 femdom exclusive games where you play as male and only 151 maledom exclusive games where you play as female...

There are over 6000 games with a male protagonist. Most of them have the protagonist being about as dominating as the women in many of those games tagged with female domination, if not moreso. For example, Summertime Saga is one of the 100 games with all the tags I listed in my previous post. The only "dominating" character in that game is the principal who carries around a riding crop. I suppose you could call the sister and cheerleader dominating but the closest they get to BDSM is the sister using fake handcuffs while streaming her sex with MC. Meanwhile Cummy Bender has neither domination tag, but as a trainer game includes physical punishments, tying Korra up, and orgasm denial.

I have to rely on the tags to talk about the broad stats when a thread like this comes up. That doesn't mean I haven't seen the same disparity OP talked about when browsing updated games.

 

[Meaning Less]

For example, Summertime Saga is one of the 100 games with all the tags I listed in my previous post.

You realize that if you blacklist a bunch of tags you will also end up with 100 or less results for male domination? I failed to see your point there...

Most games don't have domination in general, so if you want to claim one of them is a niche both are... But both combined over the 10% mark of total games doesn't sound like a niche to me really.

The only "dominating" character in that game is the principal who carries around a riding crop.

Is this though? you play as a kid that is being ordered around town by almost every woman...

 

[Meaning Less]

Meanwhile Cummy Bender has neither domination tag, but as a trainer game includes physical punishments, tying Korra up, and orgasm denial.

And on this, to be fair the game has the trainer tag, which implies slow submission already.
Not sure if it classifies as domination because the character submitted by training instead of direct domination, so it could be in a grey area. Haven't played the game to know for sure.

 

[Crimson Delight Games]

castratrices

Heh, never heard that before... you learn something new every day!

Or, it's like this because it doesn't sell well?

I was under the impression that femdom-centric games do quite well! The niche isn't as oversatured as some others like harem play or the whole incest menagerie of kinks, and the fans themselves seem to be quite loyal given that they support games which tend to update infrequently and/or with sparse content (Tower of Trample being a good example). Also, from what I've seen, the femdom community skews toward the 30+ demographic, while the maledom/harem-play is centered around 15-20 (exceptions being present in both, of course). Which feeds directly into my previous point: femdom fans have money to spend, due to being older and more established, so they're not afraid to support the projects they like. Again, this is all anecdotal from what I've seen - I could be wrong.

But femdom combined with BDSM only has about 300 games, and that's without specifying PC gender or excluding male domination.

Why are you tossing these together? You can have a femdom game that's light on BDSM elements. Not calling you out or anything, just curious - is it because the femdom community expects BDSM in most of their games?

 

[Carrera]

The problem with tags on this site is that people think EVERYTHING qualifies.

One black character with 5 minutes of screen time in 8 hours of play time and the dev slaps interracial up.

One prego character you see in a subway scene, now you've got prego.

One particularly effeminate looking dude who's anything but effeminate in the grand scheme of the game and now you've got the sissy tag.

NTR for a game where another dude just LOOKS at the MCs girl/guy.

Beasty because the family dog pisses on a hydrant and you can see the red rocket for .3456784 seconds.

If tagging a game were strictly enforced, ah who am I kidding.

 

[Meaning Less]

If tagging a game were strictly enforced, ah who am I kidding.

They are, but sometimes mistakes are made by devs themselves or uploaders and noone notices.

All examples you gave should not exist, interracial means sex between different ethnicities, not only their presence, same for bestiality, pregnancy and so on.

Which is why people can (and should) use the report button on any game that is not compliant with the tag rules so mods/uploaders can fix it.

 

[Blua ido]

i'm not sure if there are really few femdom games, i mean... it's a somewhat popular topic and several games have a bit of femdom in some point, even if it's just a little.
If you were referring to a game only specialized in femdom... well, to begin is rare to see a one kink specialized game
And i guess as a lot of games have at least a bit of femdom, the need of the content goes down (?) makes sense to me

 

[Carrera]

They are, but sometimes mistakes are made by devs themselves or uploaders and noone notices.

All examples you gave should not exist, interracial means sex between different ethnicities, not only their presence, same for bestiality, pregnancy and so on.

Which is why people can (and should) use the report button on any game that is not compliant with the tag rules so mods/uploaders can fix it.

They are NOT strictly enforced and you know it. Yes we all know there are rules but you're sadly delusional if you think they're enforced.

As for my examples, they shouldn't exist but they DO and that renders your post absolutely, completely, and utterly moot and pointless.

 

[Meaning Less]

As for my examples, they shouldn't exist but they DO and that renders your post absolutely, completely, and utterly moot and pointless.

Where exactly? Feel free to share any examples before claiming my point is invalid.
I'll personally report them if it is true so they can be fixed...

 

[Deleted member 440241]

Why are you tossing these together? You can have a femdom game that's light on BDSM elements. Not calling you out or anything, just curious - is it because the femdom community expects BDSM in most of their games?

Because the first 2 posts in the thread toss them together.

 

[Meaning Less]

Because the first 2 posts in the thread toss them together.

One or the other isn't the same as one and the other.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

One or the other isn't the same as one and the other.

Using or also doubled the tag listings to conveniently bolster the strength of your claim that it's a common fetish in games. But since OP was focused on femdom games, I'm inclined to assume that them throwing in BDSM meant they want both.

 

[Meaning Less]

Using or also doubled the tag listings to conveniently bolster the strength of your claim that it's a common fetish in games.

Pretty sure slash is used to indicate or.

Also, more than half bdsm game don't get neither male or female domination tags, exactly the reason why I used "or" because they aren't exclusive kinks.

 

[mimininos]

PS I was amused to find Summertime Saga, and it's knockoff Prince of Suburbia, still show up with this particular tag combination.

Yes, I was checking that page Meaning Less posted. Many of the games tagged as femdom doesn't look like femdom games. And now you're telling me Summertime Saga has a femdom tag!?

But I understand, why people use the tag so often. Tags tells whats in the game right? If there's even just one femdom scene in the game, I guess you suppose to use the tag. So, I think its better to read the synopsis then to rely on the tags. Tags seem to be a bit inefficient in this particular case. Maybe it could have been easier if we had a "two tier" tagging system: one for the core narrative and one for the content of the game, in this case.

 

[mimininos]

Also, from what I've seen, the femdom community skews toward the 30+ demographic, while the maledom/harem-play is centered around 15-20 (exceptions being present in both, of course). Which feeds directly into my previous point: femdom fans have money to spend, due to being older and more established, so they're not afraid to support the projects they like. Again, this is all anecdotal from what I've seen - I could be wrong.

Interesting observation. Thanks!

Heh, never heard that before... you learn something new every day!

I think it's coming from the "castration" concept in psychoanalytic theory. There's this thing in femdom fantasy: "you cant have sex with the dominatrix”. I think this, to a degree, is related to the “incest rule” in psychoanalytic theory and the fact that it's forbidden to break that rule. This rule is relating to any sort of fantasy or object of desire actually. So, I think, there's more than meets the eye in this "rule". But we can simplify this rule: You can't fulfill your fantasies because if you do then they cease to be fantasies. You can't reach an object of desire because if you do it cease to be an object of desire.

But, you can, to a degree, circumvent this rule (this circumvention can be called perversion in psychoanalytic theory) by setting up your fantasy in a way so that your object of desire is very close to you but at the same time is out of reach. The dominatrix (or femme castratrice) is preventing you from reaching her, from having sex with her, and thus she is metaphorically castrating you and enforcing the "incest rule". But you at the same time keeping her just at the right distance and by doing that you're getting gratification. This keeping the object of desire just at the right distance but without reaching her at the same time, keeps the fantasy unfulfilled but very active (and as long as its unfulfilled it still keeps its phantasmal power). So, I think "castratrice" comes from the castration part of this. And I guess this in a nutshell sums up the idea behind most femdom fantasies. Or let's say, this is what I think