Why do American gamers hate sex or sexiness in their game?

[KemonoPadstudio]

I don't know why, but the subject of sex, nudity, flirting or having a pretty girl or a tone guy who look like they take a bath every once in, well, in their lives in a game tends to cause many people to utterly lose their shit.

Once I tried to ask about making a tabletop rpg with sex rules on reddit, and they utterly lost their mind over it, calling me a perv, a monster, a bad person and wished me to just vanish and die. This incident along with noticing the common element in RPG horror stories is, outside of mainly being bullshit, is "a player is horny for a character, they are bad for bringing sex to my murder fantasies!".

I look up tabletop rpg games in Japan and not only are they open to cute girls doing naughty things, there is actually a few sex based games that feel like an 1980's OVA.

I bring this up on RPGnet, because I tried to talk about how the rpg community seems to have this hate towards both anime fans and adult furries due to them actually enjoying sex and it started with a few posters saying that hate has no place in their community the following posters were basically saying, "yeah, murder them, they suck and I don't want them at my table because it gets in the way of the murder."

 

[baneini]

When the potential threat of violence of an irl discussion is absent people start saying extremely inconsiderate things for some reason. I guess tabletop rpg genre restricts the potential fanbase into nerds who hang with other male nerds which excludes potential sexy stuff from occurring naturally, related comic:

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and you get the typical behavior of men pretending some group is bad to fit in and the extreme views that are only acceptable in their echo chamber.
Comments on reddit might not be real people.

 

[redknight00]

Once I tried to ask about making a tabletop rpg with sex rules on reddit, and they utterly lost their mind over it

That's perfectly

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[Sphere42]

"Christian" traditions. Church and culture more than the actual practice of religion itself. Not limited to the US either.

Reddit is hit-or-miss. Communities which don't intrinsically cover NSFW topics generally avoid them, but that usually covers gore and psychological suffering too. Try asking in a hentai subreddit next time instead of r/aww

Japan has different prude nonsense. Censorship laws, ugly bastards, rape and other abuse of women, netorare, a general culture of conformity.

And the only standards people have are double standards. Think of someone reenacting an advert or a music video in a location selling the product or playing the song.

 

[KemonoPadstudio]

Thank you all for the response, I took a minute away from the net and wonder if a lot of these people who go off are just keyboard jockeys that got kicked out of a lot of groups themselves, and taking it out on easy targets.

That's perfectly reasonable.

I read F.A.T.A.L., or rather tried to. And honestly, the fucking thing is boring. It felt like this guy wanted a historically accurate fantasy game, got told it was way too dull, got pissed and used rape, racism and extremes as a means to cover that point up. Only he was so bad at it the though and just made the shock value fall flat.

 

[Hagatagar]

To be honest, it's not very fun being a game master with a player who wants to play out the seduction of a female NPC and the lewd acts afterwards. It's not my kink and it does make me feel uncomfortable having to play it out. This has nothing to do with being a prude, I just don't want to do this kind of erotic role play with random guys or even my friends.

And it's also not very fun for the other players to sit and wait for that one player to finish his erotic fantasy shananigans.
This all unnecessarily stops the flow of the game and story for everybody.


That being said, if you have other players who like to participate in this type of roleplay, there is nothing wrong with it as long as everyone is okay with it.


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It even has tables with penis and vagina sizes and at what point they will tear.
And yes, the topic of (violent) rape is big in that RPG and part of the gameplay.

 

[Hildegardt]

Not even this forum is unanimously into cute girls doing naughty things. Some story devices and kinks garner hate and outrage, which seems weirdly puritan and out of place on a porn forum full of incest stories.

The ubiquitous use of the term "love interest" is pretty telling in this regard. It's an antiquated trope for female characters from old movies and theater. And by old I mean really old. Like 1930s old. It's like we can't escape the boomer perspective/values, even when discussing contemporary porn.
Part of it is probably just innocent and common misuse of literature terms and tropes that got adopted into the forum meta. ("Main character" is another term that's generally overused and gets misused a lot.) But I believe that part of it are also remnants of (christian) puritanism.
To me it seems like boomer family values like the man as a provider and the woman as a carer manifest as "maledom", which, according to a lot of comments on this forum, is seen less as a fetish and more as a premise to a story free of frustrations. I see the expression "ruined love interest" a lot, whenever a female character isn't depicted as the perfect ingénue.

Talking about puritanism on a porn forum is a little weird, because we're fapping to trashy incest stories for everyone to see. But my point is that there are still things that are off limits, even if they seem rather tame. So of course you'll find even more of this "puritanism" in mainstream media.
And honestly, sex in a casual setting like a table top game with friends is a little awkward, m80.

 

[Sphere42]

The ubiquitous use of the term "love interest" is pretty telling in this regard. It's an antiquated trope for female characters from old movies and theater.

I see LI used for male NPCs too, and notably don't see it used in overtly non-consensual stories. Horny idiots mistaking Stockholm Syndrome or "mind break" for "love" is a completely different issue. Many stories here are about love or lust so the term is valid in many cases.

"Main character" is another term that's generally overused and gets misused a lot.

What exactly are you referring to here? The term is not as specific as "protagonist", "player character" or "perspective character" tend to be but what you say sounds more like some other issue.

 

[Dagoth Urgers]

"a player is horny for a character, they are bad for bringing sex to my murder fantasies!"

The hell's wrong with that? Or are you going to try and tell me you don't get pissy when people bring murder to your sex fantasies?

 

[Yngling]

I'm northern European and not a tabletop RPG gamer, but if I were, I wouldn't like sexual fantasies to be part of it.

I'm not against talking about sex or certain fetishes with friends but I wouldn't want to mix it with a casual game.

Hildegardt you have to understand that probably the majority of this forum are not native English speakers and are not "properly schooled" in the present woke bullshit terminology. So, I don't give a fuck if some neo-marxist determined that the term "main character" is somehow sexist. It's just the character which gets the most screen time, therefore "main". Same for the term "love interest". Please be so kind to just take these terms at face value and stop reading things that are not there.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

What does any of this have to do with "American gamers" or Christians? It's kind of cringe to project your prejudices and biases onto what some random guy on Reddit or some forum said. I wouldn't want to listen to your jerk off fantasies while we're playing DnD either, because that's fucking weird.

 

[Hildegardt]

So, I don't give a fuck if some neo-marxist determined that the term "main character" is somehow sexist. It's just the character which gets the most screen time, therefore "main". Same for the term "love interest". Please be so kind to just take these terms at face value and stop reading things that are not there.

There's nothing sexist about main characters and love interests, so using the terms wrongly unfortunately doesn't turn you into more of a manly man.
Why would you even think that the concept of main characters is sexist? Did you just get triggered?

 

[Yngling]

Why would you even think that the concept of main characters is sexist? Did you just get triggered?

The ubiquitous use of the term "love interest" is pretty telling in this regard. It's an antiquated trope for female characters from old movies and theater. And by old I mean really old. Like 1930s old. It's like we can't escape the boomer perspective/values, even when discussing contemporary porn.
Part of it is probably just innocent and common misuse of literature terms and tropes that got adopted into the forum meta. ("Main character" is another term that's generally overused and gets misused a lot.) But I believe that part of it are also remnants of (christian) puritanism.
To me it seems like boomer family values like the man as a provider and the woman as a carer manifest as "maledom", which, according to a lot of comments on this forum, is seen less as a fetish and more as a premise to a story free of frustrations. I see the expression "ruined love interest" a lot, whenever a female character isn't depicted as the perfect ingénue.

Seems obvious to me, my friend...

What I don't understand is what Christian puritanism has to do with anything.

Even the traditional male-female role models are, in my opinion, in most games just a trope. If, in a mom-son incest game, the mother is a caregiver and the father constantly away on some business trip, there is little to explain, it makes the roles easy to understand. If, by contrast, the mother is a cop and in a lesbian relationship with a car mechanic, that would need a lot of explaining. The last example may make for a better story, but also by default a more complicated one. I would suggest not overthinking it.

 

[Hildegardt]

Seems obvious to me, my friend...

Well, obviously not, since you just quoted my whole comment, where I in no way said that main characters are inherently sexist.
What's a main character to you?

 

[BABPEEG]

because aids.

 

[Yngling]

Well, obviously not, since you just quoted my whole comment, where I in no way said that main characters are inherently sexist.
What's a main character to you?

Ok, I will highlight for you:

The ubiquitous use of the term "love interest" is pretty telling in this regard. It's an antiquated trope for female characters from old movies and theater. And by old I mean really old. Like 1930s old. It's like we can't escape the boomer perspective/values, even when discussing contemporary porn.
Part of it is probably just innocent and common misuse of literature terms and tropes that got adopted into the forum meta. ("Main character" is another term that's generally overused and gets misused a lot.) But I believe that part of it are also remnants of (christian) puritanism.
To me it seems like boomer family values like the man as a provider and the woman as a carer manifest as "maledom", which, according to a lot of comments on this forum, is seen less as a fetish and more as a premise to a story free of frustrations. I see the expression "ruined love interest" a lot, whenever a female character isn't depicted as the perfect ingénue.

I read the highlighted parts as you giving your opinion, which I identify as woke. In any case you seem to make pretty substantial moral judgement of these terms. I disagree with that since I believe these terms to be fully neutral.

 

[KemonoPadstudio]

Sooo... From what I gather even porn gamers hate sex in games, gotcha.

Sorry to ruin the hobby, logining out now.

 

[Deleted member 440241]

Tabletop RPGs are probably a weird place to bring sex unless you're specifically playing a sexual game with people you're willing to bang. I don't want to sit down with non-sexual friends, or total strangers in some cases, and RP a full sexual encounter with a female NPC created by a male GM. But, the people who lose their shit at the very idea of this probably aren't gamers. Even on gaming sites, forums, and subreddits there's a lot of non-gamers pushing their bs woke politics.

 

[ju1zzed]

Prude fucks?

 

[Admiral Thrawn]

Sooo... From what I gather even porn gamers hate sex in games, gotcha.

Sorry to ruin the hobby, logining out now.

I find it deeply concerning that you interpret people telling you that there is a time and place as everyone “hates sex.” Try not to commit any sex crimes, friend