joker2008

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Have a couple questions
1) Learning makeup - is that a random trigger
2) Viewing Booths - is there a max number because im the one that costs 1900
3) How far has feminization progressed. I am at 7 I know it goes higher. A cups, reduce penis size, have not seen the makeup or bra.
4) Glory holes? Supposedly depend on # of viewing booths? Ties into my other question

I'm in year 3 and just wondering what's left and what I have missed. There is obviously stuff I haven't triggered yet.
The two new girls I have been trying not to train too much because they are placeholders right now.
 

zzczys

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1, 3, are tied to random events that may trigger during end week. You can inspect yourself to see how far your feminization has come along

Booths have no limit, but each one costs more. So you have to judge how fast it can return vs the time to debt payment.
 

reidanota

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Is there a forced feminization path, or are all MC transformations voluntary? On my previous runs I got to one scene where your friend Carl forces you to suck him, but nothing more after that. I trained Rebecca to be a dom as soon as I got the option.
 

Abibliboop

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Very minimally forced, its pretty much voluntary since your character in game is already bi. You can't even unlock most of the femdom forced stuff unless you're already whoring out for men.
 

reidanota

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Very minimally forced, its pretty much voluntary since your character in game is already bi. You can't even unlock most of the femdom forced stuff unless you're already whoring out for men.
Thanks. Is there a sequence of requisites for unlocking all MC forced scenes? Do I need to fail rent payoffs, increase submissiveness, not increase dominance? Spoilers welcome ;) What exactly is needed to reveal those scenes? Besides unlocking those scenes - are they mixed with other random events, so that a bit of luck (or savescumming) is required to see them?
 

Abibliboop

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Thanks. Is there a sequence of requisites for unlocking all MC forced scenes? Do I need to fail rent payoffs, increase submissiveness, not increase dominance? Spoilers welcome ;) What exactly is needed to reveal those scenes? Besides unlocking those scenes - are they mixed with other random events, so that a bit of luck (or savescumming) is required to see them?
Unless its changed since I last played, you pretty much need to go down thevoluntary feminization route and allow yourself to whore out a couple times and have your first whore become a DOM and start to corrupt your assistant. Then there is like 1 or 2 scenes where she starts to push a more dominant attitude towards you. But honestly it is so minimal and you have to corrupt yourself so much voluntarily that there really isn't much payoff.

It would be far better if the story took a more forceful approach. She gets a taste for being a dom and then starts trying to corrupt you and flip who is in charge. This would lead to some great scenes that if you don't keep her in check, she seduces your assistant and the other people working there to support her and make you the bottom bitch. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the route that the dev took this game. Potential is there, but wasted.
 

Oliz82

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Hello.

Unless its changed since I last played, you pretty much need to go down thevoluntary feminization route and allow yourself to whore out a couple times and have your first whore become a DOM and start to corrupt your assistant. Then there is like 1 or 2 scenes where she starts to push a more dominant attitude towards you. But honestly it is so minimal and you have to corrupt yourself so much voluntarily that there really isn't much payoff.

It would be far better if the story took a more forceful approach. She gets a taste for being a dom and then starts trying to corrupt you and flip who is in charge. This would lead to some great scenes that if you don't keep her in check, she seduces your assistant and the other people working there to support her and make you the bottom bitch. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the route that the dev took this game. Potential is there, but wasted.
Why a waste though? Just because it doesn't include something that fits perfectly doesn't mean it's a waste. Should I also say it's a waste for it to not have more gay content with so many male characters? No, I just take the game as it is (or any other game I try). It's normal to ask a game to include what we like but it's awful to depreciate it just because it doesn't. And personally, I find it refreshing that the feminization path is voluntary and not forced (too much game like that and I can't enjoy when I see someone suffer).

Yall know if this game is still being updated?
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The dev is known to take his time between updates. And it's better this way rather than being just another abandoned game.

Good continuation.
 

Abibliboop

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Why a waste though? Just because it doesn't include something that fits perfectly doesn't mean it's a waste. Should I also say it's a waste for it to not have more gay content with so many male characters? No, I just take the game as it is (or any other game I try). It's normal to ask a game to include what we like but it's awful to depreciate it just because it doesn't. And personally, I find it refreshing that the feminization path is voluntary and not forced (too much game like that and I can't enjoy when I see someone suffer).
When someone is after a specific type of kink, and all the elements are there but they don't use it, that is wasted potential. Dev scripted some scenes that put in a forceful D/s flip but just hasn't done anything with that dynamic. Its like designing a brand new sports car and putting in an underpowered engine. Potential is there, but wasted.

And yes, I would also say that the limited male on male engagement with coworkers is wasted potential too. You have the elements there, but they aren't executed to the fullest extent they could be. I personally am not a fan of M/M content but that doesn't mean I don't recognize that there is a lot of paths that you can take it based on story elements already created.

The fact the character is openly bi from the start is a nice twist instead of turning normal ordinary straight boy into cock hungry slut like so many games seem to enjoy doing. Same way it is nice that the feminization is much more willing than forced (hypno path can be completely avoided). Variety is nice and this game has lots of interesting potential.

This doesn't mean the dev has to or even should change their vision of the game. But when they have multiple kinks they are trying to cater to, femdom or surrending to BBC or whatever, it is a waste of potential to not have those elements be fully realized and only lightly touched on. Take advantage of the potential that's there and run with it. To not do so, is wasting the potential that is there.

I'm also aware that the game is under very slow development cycle, so those elements may come to fruition further down the road, but I can only speak of current state of the game and towards people who are after certain specific kinks.
 

Oliz82

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Hello.

When someone is after a specific type of kink, and all the elements are there but they don't use it, that is wasted potential. Dev scripted some scenes that put in a forceful D/s flip but just hasn't done anything with that dynamic. Its like designing a brand new sports car and putting in an underpowered engine. Potential is there, but wasted.

And yes, I would also say that the limited male on male engagement with coworkers is wasted potential too. You have the elements there, but they aren't executed to the fullest extent they could be. I personally am not a fan of M/M content but that doesn't mean I don't recognize that there is a lot of paths that you can take it based on story elements already created.

The fact the character is openly bi from the start is a nice twist instead of turning normal ordinary straight boy into cock hungry slut like so many games seem to enjoy doing. Same way it is nice that the feminization is much more willing than forced (hypno path can be completely avoided). Variety is nice and this game has lots of interesting potential.

This doesn't mean the dev has to or even should change their vision of the game. But when they have multiple kinks they are trying to cater to, femdom or surrending to BBC or whatever, it is a waste of potential to not have those elements be fully realized and only lightly touched on. Take advantage of the potential that's there and run with it. To not do so, is wasting the potential that is there.

I'm also aware that the game is under very slow development cycle, so those elements may come to fruition further down the road, but I can only speak of current state of the game and towards people who are after certain specific kinks.
Thanks for explaining it in a respectful manner (which is becoming rare, particularly here :() but I can't agree with it because it would mean that each character I find attractive, men or women, that don't have lewd scenes is a wasted opportunity, that each game that has forced feminization is another one for not making available a resist option without change, that obligatory chastity device should also be avoidable, that harem with sex dolls would let the girls have a choice in the matter, that NTR with ugly bastards or BBC could be prevented but replaced with average men (yeah, too beautiful isn't any better), that the customization of the MC contributes to what happens in the game and is not just cosmetic, and so on. Though I hope what you like will be included in future updates.

Good continuation.
 

Abibliboop

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Hello.


Thanks for explaining it in a respectful manner (which is becoming rare, particularly here :() but I can't agree with it because it would mean that each character I find attractive, men or women, that don't have lewd scenes is a wasted opportunity, that each game that has forced feminization is another one for not making available a resist option without change, that obligatory chastity device should also be avoidable, that harem with sex dolls would let the girls have a choice in the matter, that NTR with ugly bastards or BBC could be prevented but replaced with average men (yeah, too beautiful isn't any better), that the customization of the MC contributes to what happens in the game and is not just cosmetic, and so on. Though I hope what you like will be included in future updates.

Good continuation.
Yeah, it is really hard to find good discussion that doesn't drop into flame wars territory.

I tend to go with the philosophy of game or story design. If something is included or is more than background filler, it should be more important or fully utilized in some way. If someone takes the time to craft a character but then never has lewd scenes I do view that as wasted opportunity, too. Why take the time to craft an interesting character that you don't do anything with in a porn game.

I definitely don't hold anyone to my standards. It would make a game very long and probably very difficult to code for. But still saddens me when I see something that could be utterly amazing just fizzle out (abandonned) or waste potential (great build up but no release). There are a number of really good games, but like you said most tend to all fall into the same routine tropes that are frankly kinda boring and disappointing.

One of the reasons I like this game so much is that there is a great deal of potential that will hopefully be developed fully as the dev is able to. It has such a wide spread of fun different areas already in game that it isn't difficult to find something to enjoy.
 

Machovich

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Game seems cool in the beginning untill you keep getting some kind of spam hypno crap on your phone that turns you gay. And there is no way to become more manly. This keeps happening untill eventualy trouble breaks down your front door and you have to perform sexual services or pay them a super large protection fee that there is no way you can pay and still keep up with other payments from what you already owe. Also as you have taken out a loan early in the game the payment schedule increases in large chunks every week from your kindof one off friend.

Too much grind for my taste. Should be more banging hot tail and less mashing buttons.

Good luck.
 

gregers

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Game seems cool in the beginning untill you keep getting some kind of spam hypno crap on your phone that turns you gay. And there is no way to become more manly.
1) You can turn down the hypno after the first few messages. If you cut it off there (from memory it's just deleting an email instead of opening it; something like that anyway) it kills that storyline. The MC can remain completely masculine, if that's what you want.

This keeps happening untill eventualy trouble breaks down your front door and you have to perform sexual services or pay them a super large protection fee that there is no way you can pay and still keep up with other payments from what you already owe.
2) After taking the initial beating when trouble comes knocking, the MC will get the option to hire security for the club. Of course that adds additional economic pressure so might increase the grind, but telling the 'trouble' to go fuck themselves is an option.


Not saying your complaints about grind aren't valid, btw. The majority of the content for the MC lies down the sissy/sub/whore path and making money outside it can be a chore, but avoiding that content and playing as a dominant cis dude with a massive dick is possible.
 
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Ninjaman2

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Grind isn't a big deal, can easily get ahead with minimal issues. It just needs more content! Progress is slow, which I get it - people have lives, but man I want more.
 
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