What is the general opinion of devs making their own version of an existing html game thats dead or has extremely slow or bad development?
Speaking strictly about html games
Speaking strictly about html games
If the dev still works on, or at least have an active patreon, I wouldn't, even if it's a bad developer. But if the game is abandoned/dead, and you think you can improve it/fix bugs/add content, well, go for it.
Hell, you can even do a remake of the game. When I finish my game (I have planned 3 or 4 storylines more, and after that it will be complete and move on to my next project) if someone wants to expand the game further, I would encourage them to (which I think nobody would do, my coding is a mess
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Hell, you can even do a remake of the game. When I finish my game (I have planned 3 or 4 storylines more, and after that it will be complete and move on to my next project) if someone wants to expand the game further, I would encourage them to (which I think nobody would do, my coding is a mess
)My personal opinion is that if a game is actually dead and abandoned by the original Dev, I would say go for it.
If it is a game that has died out, but the creator hasn't 'relinquished control' for 'whomever', I would stay away from it.
Making your own game based on the general theme/idea of the original game might be a better idea. You could end up with more drama than you want IRL, depending on how badly the creator wants to keep that game as theirs even though it is 'dead'.
it never works because the people who pick it up don't have what it takes. (or they'd be making their own games already.)
but sometimes the equally bad and early abandoned fan games are all we'll ever get, so it's better than nothing.
but sometimes the equally bad and early abandoned fan games are all we'll ever get, so it's better than nothing.
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If it completely dead the go for it. Most HTML games seems to use "borrowed" assets anyways. It might be better to start over using elements form the game you want to resurrect rather than continue.
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I'm against it because unless the original dev left you plans of where they were going with the game chances are you will take the story some place it was never supposed to go and disappoint many people.
Just start a new game inspired by the one that died or is slow.
Just start a new game inspired by the one that died or is slow.
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Just do your own thing, most HTML-games are utter trash and unsalvageable anyways. Better make your own trash than try to polish someone else's steaming pile of turd
If you're serious about it you should make your own game, taking over comes with a lot of restrictions and existing code that has bugs and interactions you don't expect since you didn't write it
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The OP was not asking about Ren'Py games, they clearly said HTML games.
That's how my game was born, after one game I was following stopped getting updates. So I took inspiration of 3 games (one was dead) and made my game, with my rules and everything for me. Took 1.5 years to do, but I'm happy with it.
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I retracted my vote and deleted my post. My new response is, who the fuck gives a shit about html games, hahah. I don't.
No one in their right mind should be using HTML to make a game. Using ANY other engine or means would be ten times better. Using HTML to make a porn game is shooting yourself in the foot and chopping off one of your arms, you're purposely giving yourself a MASSIVE disadvantage. (Hopefully this isn't taken the wrong way, I'm genuinely trying to help).
If Ren'py didn't exist, then I could understand a bit more why someone would use HTML, cuz everyone has a browser right? But with the existence of Ren'py, the new logic is that everyone has a CPU and can run an executable, Ren'py can run on VERY old machines and even old cell phones. There's really no excuse not to use Ren'py unless you want to make significantly less $$$.
I looked at the top games on F95zone just now. There is ONE HTML game I saw on the first page. Had that person used Ren'py, they'd probably have generated far more revenue, $$$ that could've been used to make the game even better.
So don't do it, don't use HTML to make a porn game, lol.
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From the many HTML games and Renpy games I played, HTML games shine if you like to write more than illustrate, while Renpy games is more about a very detailed illustration of the story with written dialogs. In good HTML games, the author has to write the whole story and the dialogs (like a full novel, maybe with just fewer descriptions) and uses pictures/movies to illustrate it.
Maybe Renpy is superior in the minigame department (I don't play many games with minigames, so I'm not sure). In terms of UI/design, HTML can do great things, for example, just check this
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(the game was very quickly abandonned, but that's not the point, it's just an example of UI/design), but it's true that HTML authors usually don't really bother about UI The main thing missing from Renpy would be the "skip text" option Renpy and HTML are just used to make different types of games, both have their strengths. For example, before Renpy, we had games like "A Date with Ariane" and I agree that today that kind of game would be made with Renpy. But a game like "College Daze" works great in HTML, I can't see what Renpy would bring to it.
And to Jsmie45 my answer is simple : if it's a game I like, continue it, if it's not, don't
An other possibility is to create a remake of the game with your own changes/creations.
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I recognize that you have made a decision, but given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've elected to ignore it.
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I would call it fan remake. I don't know of a way you could edit html games, at least for the ones I played, unlike ren'py or godot engines for example where you could directly edit the game.
as for my opinion (which could be also used as a slogan for this website) "do it anyway".
as for my opinion (which could be also used as a slogan for this website) "do it anyway".
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My opinion is simple.
We are pirate's on a pirate site.
We are immoral, selfish pricks.
If a game is slow or abbandon making a better version of it is highly encourage.
Just make it clear it is a different version.
Like:
This is a remake or my version of x games.
Due to dev having abbandon the game.
Mostly i appriecent the attempts to finesh unfineshed games but i want to be informed about the change in developer.
To change my expectations.
We are pirate's on a pirate site.
We are immoral, selfish pricks.
If a game is slow or abbandon making a better version of it is highly encourage.
Just make it clear it is a different version.
Like:
This is a remake or my version of x games.
Due to dev having abbandon the game.
Mostly i appriecent the attempts to finesh unfineshed games but i want to be informed about the change in developer.
To change my expectations.
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Bro, if you're going to ignore something, you don't even need to respond, lol.