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So this game started out very strong in my opinion, but during the past hour or so of playing there's been nothing but frustration building up in me. I'm going to hide it all behind a big spoiler because this will definitely contain a lot of them...
If you can't be bothered to read through all of that, I don't blame you. It's a lot, and a decent chunk of it is just me venting. However, if you haven't played this game yet and you don't mind spoilers too much, I really recommend you at least skim through what I wrote here. I can't imagine there aren't a lot of people who feel at least somewhat the same way I do about certain things that happen in this game and to those people, this might serve as a warning.
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If you can't be bothered to read through all of that, I don't blame you. It's a lot, and a decent chunk of it is just me venting. However, if you haven't played this game yet and you don't mind spoilers too much, I really recommend you at least skim through what I wrote here. I can't imagine there aren't a lot of people who feel at least somewhat the same way I do about certain things that happen in this game and to those people, this might serve as a warning.
- Jun 13, 2018
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I had the same frustration and astonishment, if I rejected David at first, then how is it possible to go on date with David later?
A sudden twist that spoils the mood of the game.
Exactly.. I don't think I've ever played an AVN that gave me + relationship points for a character I already rejected and without me making any kind of decision in order to gain said points...
Why even bother giving the player those points when it's entirely out of our hands anyway? It feels like a dumb joke tbh.
- Jan 5, 2023
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Don't READ annoyed rant.
Why? Why? Why?
I have gotten used to people who don't like NTR inevitably downloading the VN/Game and complaining bitterly that the game has NTR. Most will come up with the excuse that they were hoping it was avoidable. Then they go review the game poorly but keep playing the game for years to come.
It amazes me that in a CORRUPTION labeled VN, people do the same and feign ignorance that the game is meant to be corruption based
. They tend to make the excuse of White Knighting and wanting to save the heroine, or they wanted corruption but not THAT person corrupting them. Even more so when the person is clearly wanting to see pure lesbianism but get upset they can't avoid all the dicks in a game.
Then you get the people who have been here seemingly from F95's inception, complaining about "O it's Another corruption game and we've seen it all before 2Stars I've seen so many similar games."
Victoria is in a Corruption based game, and you can fully expect to see her be CORRUPTED. Shocking I know!
You are not the Dev and you are not telling Victoria's story so it may not go the way you want the story to go.
If you don't like corruption games may I suggest you EXCLUDE corruption tags.... I exclude gay games and I can assure you the exclude feature works as I have never found myself watching two males go at it. Even if I did, it would be an oops, not for me, delete and move on to the next game.
Not start crying in a review or whining about it in a thread.
Before the last couple of posters think I'm talking about them, I am Not.
Why? Why? Why?
I have gotten used to people who don't like NTR inevitably downloading the VN/Game and complaining bitterly that the game has NTR. Most will come up with the excuse that they were hoping it was avoidable. Then they go review the game poorly but keep playing the game for years to come.
It amazes me that in a CORRUPTION labeled VN, people do the same and feign ignorance that the game is meant to be corruption based
. They tend to make the excuse of White Knighting and wanting to save the heroine, or they wanted corruption but not THAT person corrupting them. Even more so when the person is clearly wanting to see pure lesbianism but get upset they can't avoid all the dicks in a game.Then you get the people who have been here seemingly from F95's inception, complaining about "O it's Another corruption game and we've seen it all before 2Stars I've seen so many similar games."
Victoria is in a Corruption based game, and you can fully expect to see her be CORRUPTED
. Shocking I know!You are not the Dev and you are not telling Victoria's story so it may not go the way you want the story to go.
If you don't like corruption games may I suggest you EXCLUDE corruption tags.... I exclude gay games and I can assure you the exclude feature works as I have never found myself watching two males go at it. Even if I did, it would be an oops, not for me, delete and move on to the next game.
Not start crying in a review or whining about it in a thread.
Before the last couple of posters think I'm talking about them, I am Not.
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If you're playing the Bad Girl route, why did you choose David over Michael? He's the bad boy, and by not choosing him, you get David automatically. It's really simple, have sex with Michael during the party, and David doesn't get a look-in. He just becomes a guy she occasionally talks to at work.
Lucas, is all about the cheating. Victoria can't become a cheating whore, with nobody to cheat on. And Lucas is naive and stupid enough, for even a girl like Victoria ( who is hardly devious), to pull the wool over his eyes, with barely any effort. He's the perfect fall guy, who virtually nobody will feel too bad about being betrayed, since it's very difficult to like him. And he pretty much gives her an excuse to begin looking for other options, by kind of splitting up with her intially. Enough so that even Victoria, can begin seriously doubting whether they have a future. And of course, they don't have a future. Because if they did Lucas would feature in the relationship stats as well. The fact that he doesn't, shows that eventually they are going to split up. Once the Dev has had fun, getting Victoria to tease the fuck out of Lucas, and probably starting to enjoy cheating on him ( on the bad girl route at least).
That sex scene at his uncles, was important to demonstrate to Victoria, that Lucas was never very good in the bedroom. Back in her small home town, he felt like a big deal, because he was the son of a well-off local businessman. But in Big City, he's a fish out of water, whilst she's growing in confidence and totally out of his league. That sex scene brought everything into sharp focus for Victoria. Afterwards, she knows that Lucas can't satisfy her, the way other men in her life can. And she realises her feelings for him have changed, and she doesn't really love him anymore. But she feels guilty, because Lucas has given up everything to be with her, just like she asked him to. For a girl like Victoria, it's only right that she gives him a chance, even if she doesn't really want to. We know that ultimately she's probably going to dump him, but at that point she's not sure, and she's worried that Lucas will be so hurt, that he'll do something really stupid. So she makes, what is almost certainly the wrong decision for Lucas and her, but the right decision for the cheating part of the game, and decides to carry on being his girlfriend.
Later, we get the beach scene with Lucas, plus Harry and Miles. And that demonstrates where Lucas really fits in, in this game. With Victoria, teasing and messing around with both guys, right in front of the hapless Lucas, who is too naive and unobservant to realise what's really happening. One assumes this will eventually lead to Victoria having sex with other guys, with Lucas totally oblivious that his girlfriend has become a total slut, and gets off doing it with him in close proximity. So I think that sex scene with Lucas, at his Uncle's apartment, played a very important role, for what was to come.
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It's a lot of bullshit man! Lots of good reviews here, well... let's go. I don't consider these GAMES but an animated COMIC, with some points of interaction with the reader/user, creating the idea of him gaining immersion and him "making decisions" for the character, but this is not "open world" it is about history, Porn comic with movement scenes, animation. This is well done, the character is well modeled and the script is being constructed to turn the "country girl" into a "hot slut". There are many fetishes but this DEV explores two recurring ones, interracial BBC and sex between a young girl and an old man, in the comics, DAVAL has caused a lot, provoked his followers a lot, there is a price to pay, but it's worth it. Provocation this is the point, messing with libido and emotions. It creates the environment that the developer wants to watch, heated clashes and emotional discussions.
Follow the game". Let's wait!!!
Follow the game". Let's wait!!!
- Jul 12, 2020
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While all fair points Zara...it does have issues you cannot just explain away with random theory to fit a narrative. You should be able to ignore both David and Michael. You can't. There is supposed to be a lesbian route...but there isn't, and most of the content on the not lesbian route is gated behind a male route.
I like this, but it does need a serious rewrite and soon....because at the moment, it's all over the place and yes, any type of forced decision taken out of the players hands (when it involves a lewd scene) is never a good idea if the Dev wants to have any long-term future.
That aside, like many a recent VN that has 'certain' content or 'debatable' content, the dev just needs to come out abd be honest about where it is heading and what his vision is. Would save 90% of these conversations straight away.
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I don't recall him ever expliciitly saying so...but then there would be no need to be able rack up an impressive amount of 'lesbian points' would there....
One of the things I don't like about this game, is that the Dev doesn't acknowledge scenes that have already happened, at least on the bad girl route anyway. I just played the scene with Ben, where she sucks his cock, and acts like it's the first big dick she's had in her mouth, when she's already done it several times with Michael, once with Kris, and twice with Mr Stevens all of whom have very big and thick penises. So not acknowledging those scenes on playthroughs where she's already had a fair bit of experience, doesn't make a lot of sense. What is the point of her getting bad girl points, if she never becomes one?
The same thing happens with her anal scenes, where she's always surprised how weird it feels, and acts like it's just going to hurt and she's not going to get any pleasure. In the scene with Kris, she ended up begging for him to continue, because she came so hard. Yet when Mr Stevens fucks her ass later, she ends up acting really reticent, when you'd imagine after her previous experience, she'd be really into the possibility of doing it again?
The Dev really does need to start showing in the game, that she already knows what anal is going to be like and already enjoys it, even if she only just says it to herself. And the same goes for any other sexual experiences, that she's already had within the game. I know on some playthroughs she may not have done any of that, and it might be her first time for real, but is it so difficult to acknowledge it, on those playthroughs where it isn't?
And you're perfectly right, there should be a distinct route for lesbian content. I don't see the purpose of her accumulating lesbian points, if there's no way of using them on a separate route. If you can avoid Michael on one route, and David on another, then surely it should be just as easy to exclude both of their sex content? Victoria's stats do give the impression that there will be a separate lesbian route, or at least one where you have the choice to eliminate M/F sex content. And there doesn't seem to be any particular necessity for not having an arrangement like that.
- Nov 5, 2019
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If you saw the slut points I have accumulated they are more than double the lesbian ones, so it doesn't mean anything.... You're the one who thinks there's a path and hopes that this will happen.
The stats give that distinct impression, and he's never said that there wouldn't be either.
- Jul 12, 2020
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Who says they are mutually exclusive? Have you been a slut..then you get slut points...you have specific lesbian points for *shrugs*
This isn't rocket science....
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My slut points are more than double the lesbian points, but I still believed there was going to be one, and initially hoped to have such a playthrough, as well as my bad girl one. Why have lesbian points in the game, if there's no specific way of using them?
And if he was always planning to have a more lesbian route later, why would the Dev make it so you couldn't exclude M/F sex content earlier in the game? Yeah, you're probably right there isn't going to be a lesbian route, but that is not the impression that the Dev has given.
That doesn't bother me, because although I really like lesbian content, I don't need an exclusive lesbian route in the games I play. But I'm guessing a lot of people may have started this game, expecting that too happen. And it's easy to understand why they did.
Again, I'm hiding my response on this behind a spoiler warning so that someone looking through this thread for specific info doesn't accidentally read any of it.
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- Jul 12, 2020
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Lots of VN's give you the option to 'tell your BF you have a headache' lol....I find this even funnier on a FMC game...so can still cheat etc...but you can avoid the BF you have been lumbered with from the start (which starting a VN with a pre-existing relationship is always, always tricky, so you need ways to get out of it/avoid it if you wish).
So agree with you...forcing it...again as I said earlier...the dev needs to come clean with what his vision is...people can then stop assuming or hoping for things...and then stay or leave.