ognani

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Hypothetically IF someone was going to remake this game what would people want to see added or changed? I'm learning Renpy but I'm VERY far off being able to pull something like this off. It would still be nice to know what people would like? Would people care if the models were altered? Parts of the story? Would you want the game even darker in it's tone/themes? Again, I'm very far from doing this (if at all) but even if it was for another project this would be helpful to know. Thanks.
 
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Hypothetically IF someone was going to remake this game what would people want to see added or changed? I'm learning Renpy but I'm VERY far off being able to pull something like this off. It would still be nice to know what people would like? Would people care if the models were altered? Parts of the story? Would you want the game even darker in it's tone/themes? Again, I'm very far from doing this (if at all) but even if it was for another project this would be helpful to know. Thanks.
IMHO

First, talk to SAZ and ask for his knowledge :D

Don't change models, to erase thousands of good images? Fix a few if there is an error and build more.
Same as story, don't delete, but add new storylines if you wish, or continue existing ones.
 

ognani

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IMHO

First, talk to SAZ and ask for his knowledge :D

Don't change models, to erase thousands of good images? Fix a few if there is an error and build more.
Same as story, don't delete, but add new storylines if you wish, or continue existing ones.
I get what you're saying but maybe I wasn't entirely clear. My project would be more of a spiritual successor than an actual continuation. A game in the same vain as The Tyrant but it would be from scratch. I'd rather do my own spin on it. I just want to know what general things people like about this game and what people would want to see done differently so I could potentially apply it to my own. I'm already fine with DAZ/Modelling so I just need to figure out Renpy. I also hate a few of the models use in this (none of the main girls). Sorry to disappoint people who'd like to just see this game continued. Maybe one day someone will pick it up or the creator will return...
 
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I get what you're saying but maybe I wasn't entirely clear. My project would be more of a spiritual successor than an actual continuation. A game in the same vain as The Tyrant but it would be from scratch. I'd rather do my own spin on it. I just want to know what general things people like about this game and what people would want to see done differently so I could potentially apply it to my own. I'm already fine with DAZ/Modelling so I just need to figure out Renpy. I also hate a few of the models use in this (none of the main girls). Sorry to disappoint people who'd like to just see this game continued. Maybe one day someone will pick it up or the creator will return...
I would echo your sentiments about the game.
Some of the characters are, as you say, ridiculous, the cops would pull them in every day just on their looks.
The plot is simplistic and unbelievable.
The MC should be Bruce's son rather than some obscure relative/son of a friend.
That way he can cuckold his father, who's a bit of a loser anyway, gets around the incest taboo too which some sites don't like.
Miranda as a cop?, nah, to stupid an idea to laugh at, and she just turns up to be abused?, again ridiculous.
Steve disappears and the only explanation is that Bruce messed up. No story there at all.
MC makes a couple of drug deliveries and hey presto he's in the gang, dear oh dear, what a week plot line that is.
There's has to be a better story behind his entry into the gang, his father is a gang member after all.
Now my pet hates, tattoos/ piercings, much prefer if they were optional, I find them ugly and they usually detract from a beautiful girls looks.
 

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Hypothetically IF someone was going to remake this game what would people want to see added or changed? I'm learning Renpy but I'm VERY far off being able to pull something like this off. It would still be nice to know what people would like? Would people care if the models were altered? Parts of the story? Would you want the game even darker in it's tone/themes? Again, I'm very far from doing this (if at all) but even if it was for another project this would be helpful to know. Thanks.
I also recommend not trying for a vanilla or corruption path. The vanilla crowd will bully you to either quit or submit to their demands. Stick to the corruption or NTR routs like the original. Make the whole gang thing believable...you really want to make waves, make it like an illegal immigrant takeover, and the father being a follower does what they say (like using his basement for a gang safe house or w/e) thinking it's going to keep his wife and daughters safe...only as it happens in those scenarios, it won't end well for the father and family...enters the MC as things are starting to get out of control for the wife and kids.
 

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I also recommend not trying for a vanilla or corruption path. The vanilla crowd will bully you to either quit or submit to their demands. Stick to the corruption or NTR routs like the original.
Been some time since you played this then...
There's Love and Corruption, and the netorare is seperate from both. Alternatively, there's a Love Route, a Corruption Route and then there's Netorare, and each one has their own relevant stat.
The main differences between the Love/Corruption routes is dialogue and a few small, different scenes relating to their corresponding stat, and one major difference in regard to two of the women and the basement.

The "vanilla crowd" only ever went as far as bitching about the existence of netorare within the game, and responding to calls for more of it from those who voiced pro-netorare comments.
 

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Been some time since you played this then...
There's Love and Corruption, and the netorare is seperate from both. Alternatively, there's a Love Route, a Corruption Route and then there's Netorare, and each one has their own relevant stat.
The main differences between the Love/Corruption routes is dialogue and a few small, different scenes relating to their corresponding stat, and one major difference in regard to two of the women and the basement.

The "vanilla crowd" only ever went as far as bitching about the existence of netorare within the game, and responding to calls for more of it from those who voiced pro-netorare comments.
Haha, yes...it has been years. I forgot about that...having so many paths is never a good idea though...just sits funny with me, with a love path for a dark story like this...I'm going to keep the gang members from claiming my mom and sisters with the power of LOVE...those gangsters will flee in terror with how much love I'll give! :KEK:
 

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Haha, yes...it has been years. I forgot about that...having so many paths is never a good idea though...
It's three paths per woman, with minimal differences between two paths and one major difference in plot. The third one, netorare, is the easiest and most boring to get and consists of doing nothing for the women - no presents, no love/corruption That's it.

You calling them "too many" is asinine.

just sits funny with me, with a love path for a dark story like this...


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It's really not unusual. It's almost identical to at least half-a-dozen romance story tropes, just with a taboo porn spin on them.

I'm going to keep the gang members from claiming my mom and sisters with the power of LOVE...those gangsters will flee in terror with how much love I'll give! :KEK:
It really has been a long time since you played... Love/Corruption is how the MC is treating the women, and is only relevant in two things - one gang related plot point, Nicole allowing Cassandra to enter the basement, which only happens if the MC has corrupted Nicole enough to the point that she's his willing and loyal slut.
- The other is certain outcomes to dates the women can be taken on, two of which relate to the previous point with Nicole and Cassandra.

As it is, the majority of the content outside of gang/basement specific content is just dialogue swaps and the occaisional difference in a couple of images in a scene.
Hell, love/corruption options are even clearly signposted with different coloured icons with different symbols. If anything, given the overall minor differences in love/corruption on actual story and content, there's really only two-and-a-half paths for the women and basically two for plot/gang content.
 
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