Dessolos

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Ocean kinda spilled that he's gonna fancy us some Vic in the S2. :BootyTime:
I can't wait for it honestly. Even if Vic isnt in my top 3 she is the LI im looking forward to seeing the most right now especially the date. I always love her pervious scenes , so im sure it will be some great scenes with her.
 

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TBH that wouldn't even make sense. If that were to be considered the case it would make no sense to censor Steam versus Patreon. There's no reason or point to do such a thing. Patreon is stricter on content that Steam, not vice-versa, and there's no monetary gain potential by doing so. Agreed? If so, it's basically only for personal reasons... whatever those may be.

Patreon does not give age ratings, steam does. While it may be possible to dancing around gray areas on patreon, this din't work on steam.

Steam is not the license holder of the music. Artlist is it.



And Artlist prohibits the use of music titles whose licence rights they own in any form of pornographic content.

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Now guess what happens if someone violates these guidelines?

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The game would be DMCAed from Artlist in no time and all efforts are gone out of the window. Steam is merciless with DMCA strikes, just ask Drifty what happened with Leap of Faith.

Steam is also checking if a game contains music that has copyright on it, during the waiting time that steam has used to review the game Ocean got contacted by Steam because they noticed that the game contains © music. Then they demanded a proof from Ocean that he has bought the right to use the music.


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And in parts some of the changes Ocean has done can in the best case only explained through "German Angst" or better to say, don't give chances.

On example was also during the table top game.

At the time when all players were using that holo console to get the individual gadget was above a top-down pyramid of light. In it's center was that fish meme from discord worked in:

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That was removed because Ocean feared to get smacked by God knows who because of this.

And if we take a look in the past, and see for what George Lucas has sued random people, this is fear is not justified if we consider the times at now.
 

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(y) Damn r-limit

I'm sure on Vic we can't talk bout a Box anymore ... She will get an Complete Room of Goodies. Maybe some sort of Gyno Chair ..... :ROFLMAO:
For my taste this is too much for her, although we have already seen her on the white throne :)

I can't wait for it honestly. Even if Vic isnt in my top 3 she is the LI im looking forward to seeing the most right now especially the date. I always love her pervious scenes , so im sure it will be some great scenes with her.
Yes, she is absolutely amazing in these pictures from the treats pack, the only hope is that he will make her looking the same throughout the second season. I don’t like half of the renders with her now, but some of the rest half are beautiful.

But whatever the renders will be, I want to know her story, there is definitely some mystery in there. Too often in their conversations there is an emphasis that they are connected. I think it's not just about the accident.
 
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expect it was said before Season 2 will have lewd scenes and S1 was only self censored because he was trying to sell it in countries that have harder restrictions on these games. But since S2 is going to have lewds Ocean won't even try. It had nothing to do with steam.
Ocean just announced he is looking for more music contracts which will come with their own lewdness clauses. how them last words taste now? ;)

Too often in their conversations there is an emphasis that they are connected.
EVERYONE is connected in this freaking series! Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that Bella and MC are siblings what with them both having yellow eyes and with both fathers gone.

It's like those mountain villages where everyone is inbred, lmao.
 
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Dessolos

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Ocean just announced he is looking for more music contracts which will come with their own lewdness clauses. how them last words taste now? ;)
couldn't care less personally. I dont need lewds to enjoy this game , so if he gets fucked over by the music again and has to make the game less lewd it's whatever to me. What I do care about is the characters now if the characters get gutted that is a different story entirely. Was just going off things I read or heard in the post you quoted me on.
 

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Ocean just announced he is looking for more music contracts which will come with their own lewdness clauses. how them last words taste now? ;)
I will for sure missing some context from this post of yours, I don't get the last part of you post ...
Ocean has told that he was searching for Artists to make direct contracts this them to get the music licenses with use for adult content. Not with this man in the middle shit show called Artlist.
 

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If I had to choose between waiting for the music or a complete game I choose the game. Don't get me wrong I know the music is apart of the game but damn I want to see this game completed before i die.
 
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Yeah, agree.

One of the things i don´t like is how the game force you to be friendly with Zara, Bella or Nadia. It would be logical want to punish them or still being mad with them, specially after the basket match and their revenge.

I think that not fit good with Nika´s behaviour.
I think, in Zara's case this behaviour is acceptable, like the MC says, Noji's wellbeing is more important, then the revenge.

I think is a good change, seems modern and fresh, and i find very uncomfortable have to press "H" always to can see properly the render.
Press the mouse wheel once and the UI will disappear, and you can see the full render. Press the wheel again, and it will return. One-handed navigation. :cool:
 

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Patreon does not give age ratings, steam does. While it may be possible to dancing around gray areas on patreon, this din't work on steam.

Steam is not the license holder of the music. Artlist is it.



And Artlist prohibits the use of music titles whose licence rights they own in any form of pornographic content.

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Now guess what happens if someone violates these guidelines?

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The game would be DMCAed from Artlist in no time and all efforts are gone out of the window. Steam is merciless with DMCA strikes, just ask Drifty what happened with Leap of Faith.

Steam is also checking if a game contains music that has copyright on it, during the waiting time that steam has used to review the game Ocean got contacted by Steam because they noticed that the game contains © music. Then they demanded a proof from Ocean that he has bought the right to use the music.


============================================

And in parts some of the changes Ocean has done can in the best case only explained through "German Angst" or better to say, don't give chances.

On example was also during the table top game.

At the time when all players were using that holo console to get the individual gadget was above a top-down pyramid of light. In it's center was that fish meme from discord worked in:

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That was removed because Ocean feared to get smacked by God knows who because of this.

And if we take a look in the past, and see for what George Lucas has sued random people, this is fear is not justified if we consider the times at now.
Bud, myself and many, many others are not contesting any of that regarding current music license status... that's all well known regarding Artlist. It still fails as a dev argument if he is also stating S2 will have adult content (which we all agree has been stripped continuously in S1). Do folks really think he won't be running away from suit paranoia then? If he changes the music licensing source for S2 then it would have been much easier to do the same for S1 rather than gutting all the content. Therefore that whole excuse or reasoning of music being the sole issue is BS (imo). That's one of the points that those of us that have well over $100 invested in the original VN debut have... one of many points.

Additionally there's even a discord of him even stating there's no censorship when it's the very definition of it.

Doesn't matter though, I've stated even last night that he can obviously do whatever he wishes. His actions over the last couple of years have been some of the worst possible for clientele retention.

If some folks enjoy and support this non-originally intended VN concept (I still stand it's no longer an AVN now) then kudos and best to them, sincerely. But with all due respect, these numerous varied excuses as to why this entire process has been habitually occurring over the last two years is bologna, including this rehashed dev reasoning he provided months ago regarding licensing as the motivation to gut the project.
 

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One of the things i don´t like is how the game force you to be friendly with Zara, Bella or Nadia.
Bella had nothing to do with that, so why would you be hostile to her? Even more, Bella comes to SAVE you after Zara and Nadia chain you up. Honestly, what I'm pissed off is that you get blackmailed into forgiving Robin for using Nami on her own (for no good reason if you didn't have the toilet scene) if you don't want to be on bad terms with Sasha.
 

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but the greatest thing is that no more reworks are left.
I somehow doubt that. He reworked that Amber therapy session where Nika lays his head on her lap cause he thought that it is too early for her to show her affection or whatever. I agree with him but I also know that he'll rework a lot of scenes in the future cause he's a perfectionist of some sort.
 
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