df223

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translate more black lilith and stuff like this please, the only content you can enjoy whithout blue balls for waiting an fucking udpate
 

WillTellU

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oh wow, they even made a game for this? well well well, I know what I'm doing this evening :Kappa:
EDIT: ok so windows doesn't like it, detects Contebrew.A!ml and internet says it's some adware pup
 
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PeteHanson

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Who translated this? Is it an official release? I like to buy translated ones if they're good.
Prepare for denuvo, if you do want to buy that and any other games on , though ;-)
I wouldn't want to "support" such a company, but you do you.
 

Ragsmu

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It's the fast track to have sex scenes incoperated into "the plot". Honestly it is just wasted potential, like most ntr games which do nothing with an initially interesting idea.
As a fan of hypno content i can assure you that you are not entirely correct. Some quality hypnosis plots take longer to start than most of Eroge due step by step induction slow personality/values rewriting and establishing of triggers. Hypnosis is not about getting laid fast, it's about establishing control and reforming people to your liking. Though i admit that it is often used as plot device which works like magic without any preamble - but those are garbage level and not hypnosis per se. There are rare exeptions to this rule where instant hypnosis is used as enabler for interesting fetishes and situations (Fudegaki soft stuff).
 

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As a fan of hypno content i can assure you that you are not entirely correct. Some quality hypnosis plots take longer to start than most of Eroge due step by step induction slow personality/values rewriting and establishing of triggers. Hypnosis is not about getting laid fast, it's about establishing control and reforming people to your liking. Though i admit that it is often used as plot device which works like magic without any preamble - but those are garbage level and not hypnosis per se. There are rare exeptions to this rule where instant hypnosis is used as enabler for interesting fetishes and situations (Fudegaki soft stuff).
Hmm.. Still hypno is a way to set things to your hand without having to deal with the other party feelings. However you look at it, it is a shortcut to pass by the process of convincing someone to share your world view. Personally I think it's a bit of a cheap mechanic. Even if you "convince" someone by hypnosis, you do not get the real feelings, but only those you implanted by force (yes I consider using hypnosis the same as using force).

I do not say that's a bad thing, but it's not for me because I want real feelings/love in a VN, and not implanted fake ones. As said - I get that people like that kind of thing, and who am I to criticize that? Everyone his/her/it's taste of course. But to say that hypnosis is not a shortcut is a bit too far for me.

It's a bit of a shame it's not for me, because I really like the art of this game. Oh well. At least there are enough people that can enjoy it, and that's what matters...
 

Zaq Reman

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Hmm.. Still hypno is a way to set things to your hand without having to deal with the other party feelings. However you look at it, it is a shortcut to pass by the process of convincing someone to share your world view. Personally I think it's a bit of a cheap mechanic. Even if you "convince" someone by hypnosis, you do not get the real feelings, but only those you implanted by force (yes I consider using hypnosis the same as using force).

I do not say that's a bad thing, but it's not for me because I want real feelings/love in a VN, and not implanted fake ones. As said - I get that people like that kind of thing, and who am I to criticize that? Everyone his/her/it's taste of course. But to say that hypnosis is not a shortcut is a bit too far for me.

It's a bit of a shame it's not for me, because I really like the art of this game. Oh well. At least there are enough people that can enjoy it, and that's what matters...
That's how it looks to you because it's not your fetish. You don't grok it, so you're overlooking that just as with the romantic stories you mentioned, the build-up is often the point in itself. I can assure that many fans of mind control do not just see it as a shortcut to the sex going by the amount of MC "porn" where the sex itself is an afterthought, or even not shown at all, just implied.
 

PeteHanson

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As a fan of hypno content i can assure you that you are not entirely correct. Some quality hypnosis plots take longer to start than most of Eroge due step by step induction slow personality/values rewriting and establishing of triggers. Hypnosis is not about getting laid fast, it's about establishing control and reforming people to your liking. Though i admit that it is often used as plot device which works like magic without any preamble - but those are garbage level and not hypnosis per se. There are rare exeptions to this rule where instant hypnosis is used as enabler for interesting fetishes and situations (Fudegaki soft stuff).
Name me some translated vn which have these. ;-) My point was never the entire j-media is doing that, i meant the translated works us western plebs do get have this problem for sure! I do not give a fuck if you like it or hate it, the problem is we do not have anything in the west even trying to develop these ideas into something interesting. And that is a fact, because believe it or not i looked for a while at things for both (ntr and hypno). I watch, read and look at just about anything besides guro, snuff and scat. The moment western porn imitated that idea it only became a meme as well and that is just sad.
 

Ragsmu

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Hmm.. Still hypno is a way to set things to your hand without having to deal with the other party feelings. However you look at it, it is a shortcut to pass by the process of convincing someone to share your world view. Personally I think it's a bit of a cheap mechanic. Even if you "convince" someone by hypnosis, you do not get the real feelings, but only those you implanted by force (yes I consider using hypnosis the same as using force).

I do not say that's a bad thing, but it's not for me because I want real feelings/love in a VN, and not implanted fake ones. As said - I get that people like that kind of thing, and who am I to criticize that? Everyone his/her/it's taste of course. But to say that hypnosis is not a shortcut is a bit too far for me.

It's a bit of a shame it's not for me, because I really like the art of this game. Oh well. At least there are enough people that can enjoy it, and that's what matters...

As Zaq Reman above mentioned it's not about real feelings, it's exactly about bending someone while ignoring their feelings. and by all means hypnosis is dark and strong fetish, it's worse than rape in regards on violence over certain person since it's not only brings bodily but also mental harm you can even exaggerate and say it's same as murder since you basically remove any agency affected party might have often making them into unthinking doll to play with. It's pure domination. But that's the point - as any other fetish hypnotism have it's audience and they love it for all above-mentioned points. That's not about getting laid, it's about having power over someone.
 
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