RenPys with 32bit version crash

[Tagfalter]

I said "if you consider ...". And cool story about your experience with Ren'Py, which is totally unrelated to your point about hardware.

My century-old laptop could run old Ren'Py-games. Just not the newer ones with said problem. Speccs needed for Ren'Py haven't changed that much. It's mostly about showing images - "animations" aren't rendered in there either.

Anyways - neither of us helps to solve the issue, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[The Witcher]

Did you do anything with the renpy 7.3.5 sdk folder? Because this is a bug with sdk.
Ah, i understand. Delete sdk folder and download it again.
Never move the "game" folder to the sdk folder, since renpy has its own files. You can only move the "gamename" folder to the sdk folder. Sdk like a game, program for creating projects on renpy. This program already have basic "game" folder. If you want rebuild one of games or modify it, you should move "game name" folder into sdk folder.

Removed renpy sdk and downloaded it again but still the same error. did as you said.

 

[S.O.M.]

Removed renpy sdk and downloaded it again but still the same error. did as you said.

Can you run "exe" in sdk? And can you run the game that you want to rebuild?
And look in sdk folder, game folder, do you see characters rpy and rpyc?
As traceback said, there something wrong with characters rpy. This problem very strange for me. I just can't find information about it.

 

[S.O.M.]

I said "if you consider ...". And cool story about your experience with Ren'Py, which is totally unrelated to your point about hardware.

My century-old laptop could run old Ren'Py-games. Just not the newer ones with said problem. Speccs needed for Ren'Py haven't changed that much. It's mostly about showing images - "animations" aren't rendered in there either.

Anyways - neither of us helps to solve the issue, so I'll leave it at that.

There was very much solutions. The main explanation - new games work bad with 32. Also, if you have new pc and can't run games, something wrong with your pc and software.
Several people have given you advice. If none of them helps you, then you can be sure that problems are on your side (outdated software, system malfunction).

 

[The Witcher]

Can you run "exe" in sdk? And can you run the game that you want to rebuild?
And look in sdk folder, game folder, do you see characters rpy and rpyc?
As traceback said, there something wrong with characters rpy. This problem very strange for me. I just can't find information about it.

Yes i can run sdk exe but when i press build distributions the error shows up. No can't run the game crashes at start up. the game folder contains rpa files. the game i am trying to build is The Curse.

 

[rayminator]

Yes i can run sdk exe but when i press build distributions the error shows up. No can't run the game crashes at start up. the game folder contains rpa files. the game i am trying to build is The Curse.

first you need to use unren and then remove the rpa file then launch the game then rebuild

 

[riktor]

haven't had a single problem with the newer renpy versions myself. old ass system too win 8.1 8gb ram. even my raspberry pis play them without issue.

 

[S.O.M.]

first you need to use unren and then remove the rpa file then launch the game then rebuild

Ah, i forgot about it. Thank you.
But unren can create new bugs

 

[S.O.M.]

haven't had a single problem with the newer renpy versions myself. old ass system too win 8.1 8gb ram. even my raspberry pis play them without issue.

Well, than i can say that your pc is in excellent condition

 

[recreation]

1. Up to date Soft- and Hardware. Am a programmer/ gamer.
2. Using Windows internal only. Which does not alert. Neither does manually adding an exception help.
3. I do. One of the "tipps" was to run it in compatibility mode, which would make your statement 'semi-correct'.

2080 AMP Extreme
Ryzen 7
32GB RAM

The problem is just not the computer. And please do not try to talk people into upgrading their PC for a client-based problem, which's core engine ran on stone-age computers before the last update. The issue is known and is going to be fixed soon - or is, if you consider re-compiling to the newest version helps in most cases. It's just that the game-devs mostly did not publish a version AFTER the update. Once they do, the problems should be gone.

Btw I would not suggest to downgrade to 7.3.5 since that would not work on any game using some new feature/ compilation/ ... from the nwest versions.

I know you are only trying to help, but phrases about evolving tech and buying stuff for porn games? Cmon...

I said "if you consider ...". And cool story about your experience with Ren'Py, which is totally unrelated to your point about hardware.

My century-old laptop could run old Ren'Py-games. Just not the newer ones with said problem. Speccs needed for Ren'Py haven't changed that much. It's mostly about showing images - "animations" aren't rendered in there either.

Anyways - neither of us helps to solve the issue, so I'll leave it at that.

I'm using basically the same hardware and have no issues so far.
Regarding the update, I actually did release my latest update on the newest version and it still has the same problems.
The mention about rendering not happening in renpy is not correct, if one uses ATL, animations rendered in renpy, every single effect you see in renpy games like a transition between images, timed events, fade in fade out, etc. are rendered in renpy, even video transitions are rendered, it's not just "showing images" images don't just simply pop on the screen just because it's in the renpy folder, it's much more complex than that and as a programmer you should know that.

 

[rayminator]

Ah, i forgot about it. Thank you.
But unren can create new bugs

all you have to do is some edits with screens.rpy file

anything that has tag menu before : move it below it

screen any tag menu:

to

screen any:
    tag menu

 

[Tagfalter]

There was very much solutions. The main explanation - new games work bad with 32. Also, if you have new pc and can't run games, something wrong with your pc and software.
Several people have given you advice. If none of them helps you, then you can be sure that problems are on your side (outdated software, system malfunction).

If I am missing a leg and people telling me to try wearing a new pair of pants does not help, I am doing something wrong, right?
The problem is NOT within my hardware, gosh. I can run new games on ultra - even in VR. Without. Any. Issue. So PLEASE stop trying.
Evenread a dev post about this.
And your "excellent condition" post: Seriously? No offense, but.... You some 14year old "computer expert"? He might still run on 32bit and of course have no issues.
"New games work bad with 32bit"??? Excuse me, but what do you mean? Or rather: What do you refer that to?


recreation I might have phrased that badly - my bad. I meant stuff more complex than what RenPy does and would require some newer GPU. Like moving a character and live-rendering the area he can see, etc.
Do I know that? About the fading effects I agree, but if it is JUST images, they do kind of just "pop up" because you path towards them. You do not have 3D models that are rendered and shown on screen. There are more than enough RenPy-Games with just statics.
Tho I agree that not all of RenPy has to be static, I stick withthere not being any need to have the newest hardware to play RenPy^^

 

[cold_arctus]

The problem is NOT within my hardware, gosh. I can run new games on ultra - even in VR. Without. Any. Issue. So PLEASE stop trying.

It is not a hardware issue it is a problem within your software (probably your AV blocking the lib files) on your system. Nothing a dev can do about it.

 

[Tagfalter]

It is not a hardware issue it is a problem within your software (probably your AV blocking the lib files) on your system. Nothing a dev can do about it.

Ack. This is getting tedious. Already mentioned that I do not use any 3rd party AV.
And I know that this isnt hardware-related. That SOM guy just keeps implying that...

80% of the time, the recompiling with the NEW version of the renpy sdk helps - so please tell me how it's not renpy-related

 

[rayminator]

Ack. This is getting tedious. Already mentioned that I do not use any 3rd party AV.
And I know that this isnt hardware-related. That SOM guy just keeps implying that...

80% of the time, the recompiling with the NEW version of the renpy sdk helps - so please tell me how it's not renpy-related

question: What windows are you running? XP/Vista/7/8/8.1/10

My best suggestion is to go here and you might get better help there

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[Tagfalter]

By the ahrdware I listed you would guess Win10, wouldnt you?

I'll check there, thanks

 

[S.O.M.]

Relax, tagfalter. Im just trying to help. Everyone here want to help you. If you expert, if you deny any help, why are you asking for advice?
And your statements about age sound extremely inappropriate.
English is not my first language, which makes it sometimes difficult for me to express my thoughts, so I can sound silly and inappropriate.

 

[Tagfalter]

I never denied any help. It's something utterly different, if the comment does not help or wasn't even helpful in the first place.

I would still ask you to elaborate what you meant with the 32bit comment.

 

[cold_arctus]

Already mentioned that I do not use any 3rd party AV.

It doesn't need to be AV. Unfortunately many programs tend to mess with a system on Windows. Wouldn't be the first and not the last time.

80% of the time, the recompiling with the NEW version of the renpy sdk helps - so please tell me how it's not renpy-related

The old Ren'Py builds used software renderer which has been removed from v7.4.xx and now require that "the user's computer has functioning graphics acceleration hardware, such as a GPU or a CPU with integrated graphics."(

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That's what cause that a game won't launch, but using old 7.3.5 libraries works.

Apparently your system can't access those files or the files are missing (lib) when you download a game, but it would explain why after re-compiling with the new SDK version it works for you.

 

[S.O.M.]

32bit system work bad with renpy, python, especially with new version. Again, as i said early, and as rayminator said, go to lemmasoft. Also, if you have very good pc and you cant run renpy games - something wrong with your software (and this doesn't mean that other games (not adult) will be work bad or don't work at all.
And if you have a good powerful pc, why 32? This is strange for me.
Check your pc, components, update windows, update drivers, check opengl etc.
If you can't run 90% of new games, but other players can, well you should know that something wrong on your side. Viruses, bugs with windows, mistakes in your software. Again, this doesn't means that something very bad on your side. Just problems that can effect on renpy etc.