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Deadlyreaper

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Another promising one gutted by the digital Nazis of the Patreon "Trust and Safety" Committee. Their slogan should be - "Trust us, we know what's good for you!".

It's beyond me why adult devs keep flocking to a platform like this - it's obvious they don't want your money or your business, yet everyone's all too eager to give it to them anyway, even as they get dragged through the dirt and kicked in the stomach.

Maybe one day devs will wise up a bit and release via a free platform with an optional tip jar.

Such a shame to see this get destroyed. :(
the digital Nazis of the Patreon
yes so slowly you get the feeling as if there are any

"Trust us, we know what's good for you!"
I hate it when others have to tell me what is good for me just because they think they know better about me than me and this patronization of which is the total shit all this censorship
 

Darth Sidious

The Senate & Emperor of the First Galactic Empire
Donor
Sep 24, 2017
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What do you suggest they do?

Leave it in and get everything banned completely?

They don't have any choice but to remove it.

What a foolish statement.
It's not a foolish statement, he's in his right to be upset. And yes you are right, Patreon has little choice. Because they are already an established community with many members dependent on Paypal for their transactions, they can't just stop supporting Paypal or they will lose thousands of (paying) members who have no other choice than using Paypal. Patreon allows people of 13 years or older to make an account on Patreon. Anyone can open a virtual bank account on Paypal no matter your age. Patreon also indicates one must be legally an adult in order to use Patreon to finance projects, with Paypal they can circumvent these rules while still looking all clean and white hat, because who is going to report a 15 year old for supporting a project financially on Patreon? Paypal is indeed pulling Patreon's reins, but this is inevitable for all crowdfunding platforms that use virtual banks this way. The only way to ensure you can continue financing these projects is for the company to also gain licenses to start their own online financial services. Easier said than done.
 

alex2011

Conversation Conqueror
Feb 28, 2017
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What do you suggest they do?

Leave it in and get everything banned completely?

They don't have any choice but to remove it.

What a foolish statement.
They do have one choice, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't like it because it does mean either completely giving up a source of income or taking time out of game development to work on something that does fit the ToS.
 

derpdurp

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Making a version patreon can accept might be necessary though. The problem is that other sites like that will have much fewer users usually and it's a hassle for people to setup things through multiple websites if they want to support other things too. Some decent solutions like giving the user the ability to change the names or making it easy for a patch to be done have already been mentioned in this thread.
 

Bacher

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Dec 4, 2017
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why do they have it open for 13y olds? no 13y old have access to a bank account even if they do have one, and they are not allowed to buy stuff without there parents concent so that is very odd.. seems like the real problem is with paypal.. i hope they get a brain soon or they can kiss there money goodbye when a new site comes up. just hope that will be sooner rather then later :D
 

FreakyHokage

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Sep 26, 2017
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why do they have it open for 13y olds? no 13y old have access to a bank account even if they do have one, and they are not allowed to buy stuff without there parents concent so that is very odd.. seems like the real problem is with paypal.. i hope they get a brain soon or they can kiss there money goodbye when a new site comes up. just hope that will be sooner rather then later :D

It's 2018 kids don't need consent when all it takes is a credit/debit card number and security code to buy anything online

I haven't been on here in awhile and I just wen't to @ManicMinxy Patreon page and it's sad to see yet another talented developer being forced out by the bigoted Patreon Nazis! Yet what really pisses me off more is the fact that Patreon boots these developers/artist but yet the lame ass pig fuckers don't go after the sickos who has CP on their Patreon pages!

What I don't understand is why hasn't f95zone or any other site like this added donation buttons and tip jars to developers profiles for people who want to support them! It's not that hard to do and then the developers wouldn't have to deal with Patreon anymore!
 
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Lorric17

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@TheNerdGod86 The problem is that Patreon is being pushed by Paypal and credit card companies to do these things. If other sites want to handle money in relation to these games, then they too would have the problem. It's not simply "Nazi Patreon".
 

KEKBUR

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Sep 15, 2016
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What do you suggest they do?

Leave it in and get everything banned completely?

They don't have any choice but to remove it.

What a foolish statement.
Foolish statement? I take it youre the resident idiot of F95 then with your amount of posts.

If a developer removes the thing that makes his game popular, he will lose money as well as popular backing/support. Thats a fact. You know this as well, so why be an idiot about it?

Now there are other platforms out there or you can do your own thing. Mr. dots did just that with DMD and you can still donate "coffee" which puts a 3rd party between you and your precious credit card information (which is why alot want to use paypal so they dont give out their details).

So saying there is no choice is just utter nonsense.

PS: I also wrote how other developers got around the problem with patreon/paypal, so really, you were just trying to be a dick. Well done.
 

FreakyHokage

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Sep 26, 2017
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Nice move from Luxee, but what if indeed Patreon staff are liberal edgelords who will take offense to this and crack down even harder? Let's hope they can take a joke. Paypal's policy is against sexual content and services. Nudity is not sexual content.
There is no what if! You can clearly see that PayPal and Patreon are ran by liberal parasites
 

Bacher

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Dec 4, 2017
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@TheNerdGod86 well a 13y old dont have one unless they steal it from there parents.. minors do not have access to credit cards in most countrys, oh and CP(bdsm) is also a thing you know, if incest and gay porn can then why not everything else? :)

@Lorric17 well how do the porn industry get paid then? must be a few ways to fix this mess

Solution, screw paypal and patreon and get something new that works like a normal donation site or a online default pay system or whatever the porn industry have, after they see the loss in income they might change there foolish ideas.. doublemoral or not money is always a factor that beats everything else.. if they had moral then they would not take money for doing nothing, all they should be allowed to do is getting donations to keep there website up lol
 

ManicMinxy

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Game Developer
Jul 11, 2017
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Another discussion about patreon? Oh very interesting


Could you stop before some other action will be taken, please?

Thanks
Thank you,

At the end of the day, all I want to express is this:
I am not taking down my game. I am not finished making it. I will do all that is necessary to unsuspend my page.

Update:
Currently I haven't gotten a reply from my rep. It has been nearly 2 weeks, which means I am sure to miss out on the pledges donated to me this month, and I will have to recover from the financial burdens. I am already working extra hard to try and compensate for the financial loss by working on the latest update!

Lastly:
If you want to help me recover from this or simply want to give me a bit of support, please consider buying me a cup of coffee on Ko-fi! Thank you!



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ManicMinxy

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And just to make sure you check out the page, and to prove that it is my page, I included some Custom Scenes, and also a Promo CG for the upcoming update!
Capture3.png
Come check it out!
 
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ManicMinxy

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Jul 11, 2017
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UPDATE:

You guessed it! There is still no reply from the Patreon TnS team after 4 days. I have tried making a twitter account and tweeting at the Patreon Support page with no reply also, even though they tend to reply to people within a smaller time frame (1hr - 1day). Any suggestions?

Currently working on the new game update. Can't wait to show you all!

M
 

ManicMinxy

Member
Game Developer
Jul 11, 2017
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So ... Since Patreon is down and it's a bit of a heckle to communicate on this platform, I've been trying to get more active on Discord!

If you'd like, please join my server !



As an incentive for you to join, I have included more promotional CG for the upcoming Update!
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Peace!
M
 
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Shadde03

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UPDATE:

You guessed it! There is still no reply from the Patreon TnS team after 4 days. I have tried making a twitter account and tweeting at the Patreon Support page with no reply also, even though they tend to reply to people within a smaller time frame (1hr - 1day). Any suggestions?

Currently working on the new game update. Can't wait to show you all!

M
I checked your twitter and saw your tweet to Patreon and the reason why they haven't answered yet is that you didn't @ them correctly: you wrote "@PatreonSupportMy" and forgot a space before "My" meaning they didn't get notified of your tweet.
 
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