Patreon and incest - need help

[Nobody Cares]

Before releasing Book II of my game, I've been considering making an account on Patreon. I already have an account on subscribe star adult, but not everyone uses it and some people have requested I also open a Patreon. I am unsure if I could or should.

I have so far done two games. One is Looking Back and it is mostly vanilla. The other one is the Queen of Phalli, which has a LOT of incest that cannot be hidden behind any patch, it is central to the plot. As far as I know, incest is a big no no on Patreon, that is way I steered clear from it so far.

So what should I do? Is there any way for me to setup a Patreon without violating their code of conduct?

Thanks upfront.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Is there any way for me to setup a Patreon without violating their code of conduct?

Well, Patreon rules are clear, you can not use their service to fund a game containing one of their banned content. But at no time it is said that you can't make a game containing such content, as long as you don't fund it through your Patreon account.

Theoretically, this mean that you can have a Patreon account and a game with banned content, to the condition that:

1. You never ever talk about that game on your Patreon page ;
2. You never ever talk about that game with your Patreon patrons ;
   Including in private, and including just sending them a link to that game.
3. You never ever show an image about that game on your Patreon page ;
4. You never ever link to that game on your Patreon page ;
5. You never ever link to your Patreon page in that game ;
6. You never ever link to your Patreon page in any publication related to that game ;
   Including in your game thread here (so no link to your Patreon page in your signature), through any social media account you can have (so, no link to your Patreon page in your bio), and on your website if you have one.
7. You never ever distribute that game by yourself through media that can be freely accessed by anyone.
   It MUST be impossible for your Patreon patrons to legally acquire a copy of that game. What imply that you renounce to the ownership of that game thread ; to mark the fact that it's a leak and not your desire to have the game available here. Ideally you should even stop to interact in it.

After, the fact is that people aren't dumb. You've more than one game, and through those other games, players of your game with banned content will know that you have a Patreon account and can want to support you there.
Technically speaking, it would be useless support, because they'll give you money, but never get access to the game in return. But there's no guaranties that Patreon will effectively see it that way if someone decide to report you.

 

[Nobody Cares]

Well, Patreon rules are clear, you can not use their service to fund a game containing one of their banned content. But at no time it is said that you can't make a game containing such content, as long as you don't fund it through your Patreon account.

Theoretically, this mean that you can have a Patreon account and a game with banned content, to the condition that:

1. You never ever talk about that game on your Patreon page ;
2. You never ever talk about that game with your Patreon patrons ;
   Including in private, and including just sending them a link to that game.
3. You never ever show an image about that game on your Patreon page ;
4. You never ever link to that game on your Patreon page ;
5. You never ever link to your Patreon page in that game ;
6. You never ever link to your Patreon page in any publication related to that game ;
   Including in your game thread here (so no link to your Patreon page in your signature), through any social media account you can have (so, no link to your Patreon page in your bio), and on your website if you have one.
7. You never ever distribute that game by yourself through media that can be freely accessed by anyone.
   It MUST be impossible for your Patreon patrons to legally acquire a copy of that game. What imply that you renounce to the ownership of that game thread ; to mark the fact that it's a leak and not your desire to have the game available here. Ideally you should even stop to interact in it.

After, the fact is that people aren't dumb. You've more than one game, and through those other games, players of your game with banned content will know that you have a Patreon account and can want to support you there.
Technically speaking, it would be useless support, because they'll give you money, but never get access to the game in return. But there's no guaranties that Patreon will effectively see it that way if someone decide to report you.

It is as I feared. Too much of a headache for me. I think I'll stick to subscribe star. Thank you so much for the prompt and informative reply .

 

[pdqbach]

I see a common workaround for developers going the Patreon route is to include an 'incest patch' that players can add to their files. I don't think Patreon lets developers directly upload this patch to Patreon, so what would be the best way to give players access to the patch? Also, what's the best way to let them know the patch exists? I'm not sure if linking to an outside post containing the patch would be permissible...

PS: Sorry to necro this thread, new poster here.

 

[Nobody Cares]

I just can't deal with this. Too many headaches. I would rather stay poor.

 

[Sui 3DX]

^ pdqbach's strategy is a solid one, but if you distribute that patch via Patreon, it could still bite you. You could also look into subscribestar or another patreon alternative.

 

[Nobody Cares]

In my case, it would be just plain impossible. The incest is not a (just) a kink, it is a key component to the plot. No patreon for Nobody Cares, it seems.

 

[Advent Games]

In my case, it would be just plain impossible. The incest is not a (just) a kink, it is a key component to the plot. No patreon for Nobody Cares, it seems.

If you do go with an incest patch, make it yourself (obviously) BUT upload it here on F95 in your game threads using a new, completely different account that can't be tied to your Patreon account at all (so no trying to be clever with similarly sounding names or "Totally Not Nobody Cares" or any smartassery like that.