Patreon alternative site.

Catwashere

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SubscribeStar seems like a better option over Patreon.
At the rate they are banning people and how they hate freedom i'm close to stop supporting creators on the site.
Please keep it polite and clean! We should spread this site just in case all porn gets banned and the creators we all like can start using this site for a backup.


here is a video on Patreon being anti-freedom.
 

DarthSeduction

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Prohibited Uses
In addition to other prohibitions as set forth in the Terms of Service, you are prohibited from using the site or its content:

(j) for any obscene or immoral purpose;
That's a very vague way of saying that porn, adult content, and etc could be a straight up no. Have you seen any adult content provider using the service yet? Between their payment partners and that line, I have to wonder if we'd even be welcome.
 

Catwashere

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That's a very vague way of saying that porn, adult content, and etc could be a straight up no. Have you seen any adult content provider using the service yet? Between their payment partners and that line, I have to wonder if we'd even be welcome.
The homepage says they are pretty much all for freedom as long as no laws are broken and then they have an option to make your page for 18+, so it looks like it is yes they allow adult stuff.


 

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I've also heard there is another alternative coming in the next couple of months from a Youtuber, they are working out the details of it. The only downside he said is the processing companies will take a bigger cut then Patreon. He said this is due to the nature of the businesses they support, mainly porn sites, they take a bigger cut due to the extra risk. So there may be another one that is far better than Patreon coming soon that would support these games without flinching.
 

Catwashere

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I've also heard there is another alternative coming in the next couple of months from a Youtuber, they are working out the details of it. The only downside he said is the processing companies will take a bigger cut then Patreon. He said this is due to the nature of the businesses they support, mainly porn sites, they take a bigger cut due to the extra risk. So there may be another one that is far better than Patreon coming soon that would support these games without flinching.
The site i posted seems to take about the same as Patreon and allows adult stuff. Reading into the site they say they love freedom and as long as no law is being broken they allow it on the site, you can make an 18+ page so that means adult stuff.
The only thing again is you must follow the laws.
I do nor make porn so i'm not sure about all the laws and crap but it looks like adult games are allowed.
 

Catwashere

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That's a very vague way of saying that porn, adult content, and etc could be a straight up no. Have you seen any adult content provider using the service yet? Between their payment partners and that line, I have to wonder if we'd even be welcome.
Animopron uses it.
I found from and going to his site
 

DarthSeduction

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Animopron uses it.
I found from and going to his site
There is one... and talk about obscene and immoral... That's not enough to just use it, of course, but that is a good sign.
 

Catwashere

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There is one... and talk about obscene and immoral... That's not enough to just use it, of course, but that is a good sign.
I found this person also and here is what they make ,
So there are some on the site! found even more by searching keywords sex, porn, adult
Looking good for the site.
 

DarthSeduction

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I found this person also and here is what they make ,
So there are some on the site! found even more by searching keywords sex, porn, adult
Looking good for the site.
There are also lots of incest games that are still going unchanged on patreon, so the fact that these exist isn't quite enough to say it's safe, but it's definitely worth asking them, which I may do. Still holding out hope for Sponsorion myself, and unlike these guys, they've been explicit in saying we'll be welcome, in fact, some of the people developing it are in the adult comics industry.
 

Catwashere

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There are also lots of incest games that are still going unchanged on patreon, so the fact that these exist isn't quite enough to say it's safe, but it's definitely worth asking them, which I may do. Still holding out hope for Sponsorion myself, and unlike these guys, they've been explicit in saying we'll be welcome, in fact, some of the people developing it are in the adult comics industry.
You should email Subscribestar and ask them about things like Incest and Bestiality games.
I hope is a good site!
If you email them please let us know what they say.
 

Felicityskye

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SubscribeStar uses the same payment processors as Patreon. I wonder when SubscribeStar will fall too. It looks promising now, but so did Patreon 5 years ago.
 
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Catwashere

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we totally agree with you! That's why we have a memorandum - and we believe it will answer your question in details, but the short answer is yes, we allow adult users.

Also, we already work with known "big" NSFW artists like Animo, UnidentifiedSFM, Animeshin Club and many others, so there is a big chance that your content is acceptable on our platform.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Best regards
SubscribeStar Support Team


Here you go DarthSeduction, they replied to my email.
 

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we totally agree with you! That's why we have a memorandum - and we believe it will answer your question in details, but the short answer is yes, we allow adult users.

Also, we already work with known "big" NSFW artists like Animo, UnidentifiedSFM, Animeshin Club and many others, so there is a big chance that your content is acceptable on our platform.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

Best regards
SubscribeStar Support Team


Here you go DarthSeduction, they replied to my email.
They have no idea what they're doing.

They're using the same payment providers as Patreon (paypal and stripe), and will face the same issues if/when they gain enough attention. Just look at makersupport - they started off allowing adult content, quickly stopped that, and in the end they shut down a few months ago. Also look at buymeacoffee, who had to drop paypal after too many adult creators started using their platform.
 

Catwashere

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They have no idea what they're doing.

They're using the same payment providers as Patreon (paypal and stripe), and will face the same issues if/when they gain enough attention. Just look at makersupport - they started off allowing adult content, quickly stopped that, and in the end they shut down a few months ago. Also look at buymeacoffee, who had to drop paypal after too many adult creators started using their platform.
Yeah i emailed them again asking about that and that seems to be the only concern for the site. Buymeacoffee may be the best option.
 

Catwashere

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Up to you all to decide if you believe the site or not but the replied again with this

You are welcome! Keep asking! :)

1. No, we would not change policy. We would find another payment processor who is not that strict, perhaps even under the different jurisdiction other than US.
2. Yes, we take about the same % as Patreon. Fees may vary based on the way of payout you choose.
3. Yes, they are welcome. Unless unlawful live (non-simulated) content is created and posted, such as described in US and other countries law.


below is what i asked and above is the reply from them.

This is what i asked
If paypal or others try to make you change polices would you?
Do you take about the same % as Patreon?
So all adult creators are welcome no matter what they create as long as they follow the laws of the country and state they live in?

So with that i'm done with this topic and site again you can decide what to do with this info.
 

gamersglory

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I have to agree with @Sam on this one. If there were a textbook on everything Patreon did wrong SubscribeStar read an autographed copy. Also @Catwashere Buy me a coffee has no adult content added to there TOS now. Sounds like Ptolemy wants to make the switch
 

gamersglory

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Here is some odd language in the fine print from SubscribeStar

  • 3% service fees or more depending on the content type;
  • transfer fees incurred from payout / payroll (the exact amount of the fees depends on the payout option selected by the User)
  • any transaction processing related expenses (typically it is 2.9% + $0.3 per transaction, 4.4% + $0.3 for international PayPal transactions and more for any sort of sensitive content);

 

gamersglory

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Subscribestar.com Well that was fast:

We are in the process of integrating a new stable and independent payment processor for our platform.
Therefore we temporally paused accepting payments from subscribers. The setup process may take up to two weeks.
All payouts are safe and will be made on time.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.
 

Catwashere

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Subscribestar.com Well that was fast:

We are in the process of integrating a new stable and independent payment processor for our platform.
Therefore we temporally paused accepting payments from subscribers. The setup process may take up to two weeks.
All payouts are safe and will be made on time.
Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Looks like they may have told me the truth when i asked if they would get rid of Paypal and Stripe.
They are getting rid of them both and should be ready in 2 to 3 weeks.