rainnnnnn

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I seriously wished it hit him and gave him a concussion maybe that will teach him some manners...
The only achievement Perry has made is somehow making himself even worse than Robert and Stan
Imagine if he got a concussion and spent the entire update in the hospital leaving us the fuck alone in his summer house
 

rainnnnnn

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So if I’m going for a route that has Cherry and Emma,
Is there a way to avoid the convo where Ian and Wade tell Perry he should just go for Emma already?
There isn’t an option to tell him to stop pursuing her which is really dumb
 
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fatpussy123

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I think it's added into the game files but not actually implemented into the game yet. I could be wrong but I tried many different paths and could not find this scene
So for some reason it doesnt show up on my Ian Holly romance path, they seem like theyre going to fuck and then the chapter just ends. But on my path where Holly is a casual fling for Ian (ian_holly_love = false) and holly has max change stat (holly_change = 5) the scene plays. Another note is that trinity is active, that means Holly and Ian discussed her kissing Lena earlier. Im not sure if it only plays if trinity is active or if there is no love involved.
 
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So for some reason it doesnt show up on my Ian Holly romance path, they seem like theyre going to fuck and then the chapter just ends. But on my path where Holly is a casual fling for Ian (ian_holly_love = false) and holly has max change stat (holly_change = 5) the scene plays. Another note is that trinity is active, that means Holly and Ian discussed her kissing Lena earlier. Im not sure if it only plays if trinity is active or if there is no love involved.
I was very disappointed by that. Why would the romance path with Holly have less scenes with her? Well thanks I will try again to get it. Maybe that scene will be added with the next update for the romance path
 
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Socrambus

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Also I kind of just realized that Eva seems to have a strong opinion on how often women really love to feel dominated during sex even if they don't really give that vibe before the fact. It came to me with Emma's scenes but it is a predominant theme on Lena's story and something also shared by Cherry, Alison and Louise. So far only Holly and Cindy are not clearly showing this and in Holly's case it feels more related to her almost being a virgin, while it seems pretty likely that Axel will show us that Cindy also really likes it despite appearances.

Now, I'm not complaining as even if I'm not into BDSM myself is also a kink I share women being made submissive during sex by a strong man. But while I don't think that women loving it is that uncommon, I also don't think that all women love it (secretly or openly).
 

fatpussy123

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I was very disappointed by that. Why would the romance path with Holly have less scenes with her? Well thanks I will try again to get it. Maybe that scene will be added with the next update for the romance path
I think it is a bug because there is no reason for that scene not to play, the scene literally builds up to them having sex and then it just ends, hopefully gets added in the beta.

Also it might only happen if Holly kissed Lena while dating Ian. That is also a stat active on my playthrough.
 
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BlandChili

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Also I kind of just realized that Eva seems to have a strong opinion on how often women really love to feel dominated during sex even if they don't really give that vibe before the fact. It came to me with Emma's scenes but it is a predominant theme on Lena's story and something also shared by Cherry, Alison and Louise. So far only Holly and Cindy are not clearly showing this and in Holly's case it feels more related to her almost being a virgin, while it seems pretty likely that Axel will show us that Cindy also really likes it despite appearances.

Now, I'm not complaining as even if I'm not into BDSM myself is also a kink I share women being made submissive during sex by a strong man. But while I don't think that women loving it is that uncommon, I also don't think that all women love it (secretly or openly).
Women are people, people are varied, putting anyone into boxes generalising them as a whole is always wrong.

Now, when it comes to porn I would assume that it's a safe bet to go for portrayals of submissive women, regardless of how different we are it's just a fact that society has historically put emphasis on submissive traits for women and therefore if they do not express these traits it is often conflated with emasculation of the male partner.

Obviously that is silly on the surface of things, but I do not fault the makers of porn for following these norms. They are selling sex as a product and you make the product that the most people would want.

Ian can still be on the cuck route and Ivy seems like she would be a less submissive partner when we finally get around to her content with Ian, so the opposite isn't completely absent from the game.
 

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It seems even Ivy appreciates partner who is dominant with her, given how positively she reacts to him potentially winning their spar, and his demands during the texting session in this update.
That's true, though given the banter between them I was sort of hoping for more of a switch vibe with their pairing. It would be kinda nice if Ian had a partner where he could just have a "let her take charge" attitude without it defaulting to cuckoldry.
 

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I would like to report a bug. It is a continuation of one I have reported before. In my current playthrough I made Holly Ivy's pet and Lena joined in on the threesome in the bathroom with Ivy and Holly. Holly and Lena have a talk about it and agree it was not a problem even if Lena is dating Ian. Yet at the end of Chapter 11 Lena mentions a kiss she shared with Holly which never happened on this playthrough. This led me to believe I was on the trouple path even if Lena and Holly had not confessed their feelings for eachbother. And my suspicion was affirmed this update. Holly tells Ian that her and Lena shared a kiss even though this never happened. And Lena says the same thing in an inner monologue. I'm not against this outcome it's just that it does not feel like a natural progression of things due to the bringing up of events that did not happen. I would report this on patreon but I'm not a subscriber so I anyone can let Eva know, that would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Ian can still be on the cuck route and Ivy seems like she would be a less submissive partner when we finally get around to her content with Ian, so the opposite isn't completely absent from the game.
That prediction would be a reinforcement of the trope, not in defiance of it.

"they all love aggressive guys"/"the guys all love submissive girls" is perfectly consistent with a doormat Ian getting bossed around by Ivy (read - her not really attracted). There hasn't been a single instance in the game where that kind of behavior (deviation from the aggressive male = attract / submissive girl = attract) is encouraged or normalized.
That's true, though given the banter between them I was sort of hoping for more of a switch vibe with their pairing. It would be kinda nice if Ian had a partner where he could just have a "let her take charge" attitude without it defaulting to cuckoldry.
I totally agree and would love to see that, but I don't think this will ever be seen in games by this author.

IMHO it doesn't help that evakiss has strong 'bully','cheating','BBC' fetishes/interests; as any of those things can't really exist simultaneously next to stories where a girl is anything but a docile little creature and other guys aren't just positions on an alpha litmus test. A character like Axel or Marcel has little use in a universe where the women prefer gentle or submissive men.
 
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