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desmosome

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NTR games are the ones that go side by side with the corruption genre. The women are a cumdump, doing things to an evil bastard (the antagonist), while the protagonist is a sad loser.

Harem is considered vanilla, going along with the romance genre. Almost all harem games have a romantic aspect, but with multiple women (if this is done in a shallow way, that's another story). The protagonist in 90% of harem games does not fall into the complete evil bastard category.

It's a bit silly and unrealistic. But it's an erotic fantasy. NTR is also extremely over the top, so let's not bring UUHH REALISM to the table, please.

And please, let's stop with this moronic sophism that harem is evil corruption while NTR is the gentle side of the coin. NTR is defined by betrayal and a sense of humiliation. Harem is pretty much "happy, happy times, everything is okay, my girlfriends love me and are okay with sharing me among them".
Bingo!

There are always exceptions, but this is the general differentiation for those genres and its fans. You can broadly split the groups into "fucked up dark porn lovers" and "happy la la land porn lovers." Most NTR fans will also enjoy other dark themes like female protag corruption and evil male MC dark harem. Most harem fans are probably fine with romance non-harem. Again, there are always exceptions, but that's the general appeal of those tags.

It's honestly an anomaly that the harem fans formed this weird militant harem brigade. No other tag has people like this.
 
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Ambir

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We're in complete agreement on that then, I think subtracting more than 1 star just for one tag or scene would be unfair.
I dont quite understand this logic. Like, let's say you go see a horror movie, knowing it's a horror movie. If you critic it saying that you had a horrible experience because it was a horror movie... Aren't you just a complete imbecile for going to see a horror movie in the first place, knowing that you wouldn't like it because of the type of movie it is?
 

Meaning Less

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Aren't you just a complete imbecile for going to see a horror movie in the first place, knowing that you wouldn't like it because of the type of movie it is?
Well there is always going to be someone claming "I had no idea this was a horror movie, the poster made me think this was a romance"
 
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I dont quite understand this logic. Like, let's say you go see a horror movie, knowing it's a horror movie. If you critic it saying that you had a horrible experience because it was a horror movie... Aren't you just a complete imbecile for going to see a horror movie in the first place, knowing that you wouldn't like it because of the type of movie it is?
Edited it, but imo my previous comment clarified it well enough so this doesn't really respond to what I wrote.

Tags are all or nothing right now. It doesn't say how prominent the content is nor does it give information about the implementation. Like does it play all the cliches straight and are all the characters stock characters or is it remotely creative.
 
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Ambir

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Well there is always going to be someone claming "I had no idea this was a horror movie, the poster made me think this was a romance"
I'm just imagining a poster with blood splatters, a chainsaw and a girl screaming and someone going 'I thought this would be a romance movie'.

You do have a point, however. If the promotion material is misleading, maybe someone could be mistaken... Still, I find it moronic.
 

Carpe Stultus

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Eh, I disagree. A harem with with a limited amount of girls would definately be possible. It may well be hell on earth but it is possible. :LUL:

Above I mentioned some games. Of course some of them have some (or a lot) of fantasy elements, but I think the writing is good and the situations are pretty realistic. And there are many more like them.



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So you are telling me that it is more likely to happen/realistic that you get a harem than catching someone cheating on you and leaving you for the other person or simply having an affair?

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DawnCry

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Well on the topic of NTR vs harem I tend to stay more on the harem camp but I'm actually in the middle, I dislike dark games based on betrayal and having a pathetic MC as much as I tend to dislike one dimensional girls jumping at the MC dick cause why not.

On the middle ground you can find games that are more like a fuckfest or that take stuff in a light hearted way, even NTR can be something casual and not ill-willed, but that means to evade the focus on the betrayal and having a rival/antagonist that isn't a piece of shit, which tends to be really rare.

But I have to say that it's disappointing that the MC on many harem games tend to be a creep and can't be a more normal person, it's like all games need us trying to peek at the girl each time she is changing clothes or going to the bathroom, some are even worse by giving you a choice each 3 secs about if you wanna see more and then "game over you are caught".
 
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E_nigma

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Lets play devils advocat here. Most harem games don't have a better story either, cock hungry chicks jump on the mc's dick as soon as they see him. Does that sound better? A lot of these games get the highest praises, are the people who praise them also sickos? :unsure:

Fact is that not every game with NTR is great or even decent, hell most of them are just as shit as the majority of harem games. The only difference is that one is a kink that makes the mob grab their pitchforks and start the namecalling.
Nah most harem games are at least halfways decent, ntr games are almost exclusively dogshit cause they rely on the women being complete idiots/radically changing with 1 choice/ mind control/rape

Look at a terribly written and contrived pos like power vacuum, one choice and the women are completely different people, it's the same for most cuck paths. Burning desires even if you ignore the dream the husband has it still pops up later in dialogue as if you even knew about it. The list goes on. Where in almost all harems sure the initial premise is bologna but the characters tend to remain consistent throughout

>satisfied by the end of every ntr game
>If the women were not liking it then they wouldn't be stolen and it would stop being ntr and just be rape or similar.
Oh yes, conjectures and ignoring ntr type B and C, which eliminates about 70% of ntr games in total...
I mean, you should know by now thats how he always frames the counter arguments, ignore the parts that don't fit into the narrative he wants to weave and create a....meaningless response.
 

RedPillBlues

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i'm sick of games where you are the only one dick on planet. the only one who have privilege to bang chicks. We need more realism in adult games. Where are affair stories? cheating? struggling for somebody's else girlfriend/wife? i would love to see female characters with background story with someone else before you. There are girls, women, milfs with their own lives. To many games where a number of virgins waiting just for you. This is just not real.
BTW. can someone show game that match some of these conditions?
Try a game called New Coral City, it fits that bill rather perfectly. Unfortunately these games that try and be super realistic like that generally don't do very well. Which brings me to my next point, OP if you are actually looking for whats more popular, then this isnt a great way to go about it. Looking at the market trends on something like patreon would be a much more accurate reading. What content do the top games have, how much of it, how long have they been going. Even collecting a rather simple set of data like that mould be 10x more accurate.
 
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Joeburqa

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Lets play devils advocat here. Most harem games don't have a better story either, cock hungry chicks jump on the mc's dick as soon as they see him. Does that sound better? A lot of these games get the highest praises, are the people who praise them also sickos? :unsure:

Fact is that not every game with NTR is great or even decent, hell most of them are just as shit as the majority of harem games. The only difference is that one is a kink that makes the mob grab their pitchforks and start the namecalling.
lets play me probably making some other people angry because its funnny. went into a thread. a couple people asked the developer of the game if the ntr was avoidable. literally no one said anything else about it. some cuck immediately comes in screaming (well, typing, but i assume he was screaming and foaming at the mouth, while the cheetos were dislodging from his fat rolls because of how much he was shaking, in real life) about how he doesnt understand why the anti ntr crowd always feels the need to force everyone else to like what they want, about how the anti ntr crowd are braindead, and some other general insults about how the anti ntr crowd has taken over another thread and to just leave and go to a non ntr game. so i went through and counted how many people mentioned ntr total. 1 guy made a joke about the developer being evil for putting ntr and incest in the same game. 3 people asked if the ntr would be avoidable. and thats it. thats what threw that cuck into a rage. when i mentioned this, having literally counted every single post (it was a short thread and i had nothing better to do with my time that ruin some betas day), i was also attacked. something about how im so stupid that i cant see all them insulting everyone who likes ntr and how its always my side throwing hate at the poor benevolent cucks. the fact that my reply was pointing out 100% factually that no anti ntr person said anything hateful and that the first guy to say anything hateful was some cuck, apparently didnt matter. all that mattered was that he said others were being hateful with no actual hate occurring, and that makes me an awful person. i paraphrased a bit, but he was literally insulting my intelligence because i was able to count and think logically and he wasnt. oh, the subtle irony.... after that guy got half a dozen other cucks to dog pile onto anyone who told buddy to calm down, and multiple cucks were in there insulting everyone who said anything about ntr that wasnt something along the lines of "ntr is great, i would ask you to remove my testicles but i clearly have none cuz im an ntr fan", and telling anyone that isnt an abject failure at life to leave ntr threads alone, the developer comes forward and says that he meant netori, but since the tags arent separated he just put ntr, and sorry for the confusion.

whilst this is a specific example that turned into an epic facepalm for the cuck crowd, variations of this conversation have been had repeatedly, in many threads. the anti ntr side is not much better, and hurl their own insults constantly, but acting like its only one side doing this when both sides are still internet trolls spewing hate at each other because thats what you do on the internet is not only dishonest, it also doesnt help resolve the conflict. although, since the ntr crowd enjoys losing so much, i suspect they continue to bring up their boring talking points (see the post buddy somewhere up there made with the picture of the cuck apologist bingo, its basically the only things those people ever say, repeated ad nauseum) regardless of how many times they show up to a harem thread and cry for moar ntr only to get spanked back into their closet dressed as superman on purpose. probably gives them the same rush they feel when they fail at every other aspect of life.

yes, i understand that i am not disproving your comment. yes, i dont care. yes, i know that the ntr crowd still enjoys me talking down to them like this. yes, all ntr games are not great or even decent. yes, most harem games are not great or even decent. yes, most games in general are not great or even decent. yes, the people who enjoy these games are probably sickos. yes, the ntr crowd are dicks on the internet. yes, the harem crowd are dicks on the internet. yes, most people are dicks on the internet. yes, women jumping on my dick sounds much better than my woman jumping on my neighbours dick. and my cousins dick. and my personal trainers dick. and her bosses dick. none of that sounds appealing to anyone but the most self hating individuals. but to each their own.

i guess the moral of the story is that we all need to learn to be a little less perceptive.

good day, sir.

TL;DR: someone asked about ntr in a thread (about the avoidable-ness), ntr fans got uppity the question was asked and acted like victims of oppression.

Add some hyperbole and ad hominem.
added this guys quote summarizing my post because im bored and have nothing better to do with my time currently....
 
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lets play me probably making some other people angry because its funnny. went into a thread. a couple people asked the developer of the game if the ntr was avoidable. literally no one said anything else about it. some cuck immediately comes in screaming (well, typing, but i assume he was screaming and foaming at the mouth, while the cheetos were dislodging from his fat rolls because of how much he was shaking, in real life) about how he doesnt understand why the anti ntr crowd always feels the need to force everyone else to like what they want, about how the anti ntr crowd are braindead, and some other general insults about how the anti ntr crowd has taken over another thread and to just leave and go to a non ntr game. so i went through and counted how many people mentioned ntr total. 1 guy made a joke about the developer being evil for putting ntr and incest in the same game. 3 people asked if the ntr would be avoidable. and thats it. thats what threw that cuck into a rage. when i mentioned this, having literally counted every single post (it was a short thread and i had nothing better to do with my time that ruin some betas day), i was also attacked. something about how im so stupid that i cant see all them insulting everyone who likes ntr and how its always my side throwing hate at the poor benevolent cucks. the fact that my reply was pointing out 100% factually that no anti ntr person said anything hateful and that the first guy to say anything hateful was some cuck, apparently didnt matter. all that mattered was that he said others were being hateful with no actual hate occurring, and that makes me an awful person. i paraphrased a bit, but he was literally insulting my intelligence because i was able to count and think logically and he wasnt. oh, the subtle irony.... after that guy got half a dozen other cucks to dog pile onto anyone who told buddy to calm down, and multiple cucks were in there insulting everyone who said anything about ntr that wasnt something along the lines of "ntr is great, i would ask you to remove my testicles but i clearly have none cuz im an ntr fan", and telling anyone that isnt an abject failure at life to leave ntr threads alone, the developer comes forward and says that he meant netori, but since the tags arent separated he just put ntr, and sorry for the confusion.

whilst this is a specific example that turned into an epic facepalm for the cuck crowd, variations of this conversation have been had repeatedly, in many threads. the anti ntr side is not much better, and hurl their own insults constantly, but acting like its only one side doing this when both sides are still internet trolls spewing hate at each other because thats what you do on the internet is not only dishonest, it also doesnt help resolve the conflict. although, since the ntr crowd enjoys losing so much, i suspect they continue to bring up their boring talking points (see the post buddy somewhere up there made with the picture of the cuck apologist bingo, its basically the only things those people ever say, repeated ad nauseum) regardless of how many times they show up to a harem thread and cry for moar ntr only to get spanked back into their closet dressed as superman on purpose. probably gives them the same rush they feel when they fail at every other aspect of life.

yes, i understand that i am not disproving your comment. yes, i dont care. yes, i know that the ntr crowd still enjoys me talking down to them like this. yes, all ntr games are not great or even decent. yes, most harem games are not great or even decent. yes, most games in general are not great or even decent. yes, the people who enjoy these games are probably sickos. yes, the ntr crowd are dicks on the internet. yes, the harem crowd are dicks on the internet. yes, most people are dicks on the internet. yes, women jumping on my dick sounds much better than my woman jumping on my neighbours dick. and my cousins dick. and my personal trainers dick. and her bosses dick. none of that sounds appealing to anyone but the most self hating individuals. but to each their own.

i guess the moral of the story is that we all need to learn to be a little less perceptive.

good day, sir.
I made it one sentence far. Can anyone summarize?
 

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I made it one sentence far. Can anyone summarize?
TL;DR: someone asked about ntr in a thread (about the avoidable-ness), ntr fans got uppity the question was asked and acted like victims of oppression.

Add some hyperbole and ad hominem.
 
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Carpe Stultus

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Nah most harem games are at least halfways decent, ntr games are almost exclusively dogshit cause they rely on the women being complete idiots/radically changing with 1 choice/ mind control/rape

Look at a terribly written and contrived pos like power vacuum, one choice and the women are completely different people, it's the same for most cuck paths. Burning desires even if you ignore the dream the husband has it still pops up later in dialogue as if you even knew about it. The list goes on. Where in almost all harems sure the initial premise is bologna but the characters tend to remain consistent throughout

I mean, you should know by now thats how he always frames the counter arguments, ignore the parts that don't fit into the narrative he wants to weave and create a....meaningless response.
Yes, yes like the tons and tons of harem games where the females literally fall onto the MC's dick and if you would've read what the dev of power vacuum wrote you'd know why but you rather talk shit, as usual. You are one of these blind hatred guys who are only there to piss on everything you don't like. :FacePalm:

I made it one sentence far. Can anyone summarize?
Something, something evil forum user who likes different stuff than he does was mean to the poor people who are oh so innocent, i think. Didn't really read either...
 

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Yes, yes like the tons and tons of harem games where the females literally fall onto the MC's dick and if you would've read what the dev of power vacuum wrote you'd know why but you rather talk shit, as usual. You are one of these blind hatred guys who are only there to piss on everything you don't like. :FacePalm:
Hey, women fucking on the first date isn't the unrealistic part, just look at tinder. Them entering a committed relationship after that WHILE knowing the mc is laying pipe elsewhere? Yeah that's pretty far fetched.
 
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Yes, yes like the tons and tons of harem games where the females literally fall onto the MC's dick and if you would've read what the dev of power vacuum wrote you'd know why but you rather talk shit, as usual. You are one of these blind hatred guys who are only there to piss on everything you don't like. :FacePalm:


Something, something evil forum user who likes different stuff than he does was mean to the poor people who are oh so innocent, i think. Didn't really read either...
Ah yes, the classic deflect and don't actually say anything.