RPGM - Completed - Nebel Geisterjäger [v1.2] [BBQ Lover]

Average cg, lackluster pure love route, subpar true ending, pointless grinding.

On the other hand, could be worth to play for ntr lovers.

Overall, the game is average, not good or bad. The RPG and exploration elements of the game were pretty innovative, but the same exploration mechanics become quickly repetitive and unenjoyable.

Just makes me sad.

This game had the most potential of any NTR game I've played in recent times. There are some incredible mechanics. However, it just didn't quite hit the mark. The dev did way too many convoluted things that will send you on a wild goose chase. A good example of this is there are different status screens to unlock to see what the female protagonist is up to. To unlock one of the status screens, you have to walk into a hidden area into an empty screen off the map, then fight an extremely strong boss you won't be able to defeat until late in the game if you are playing on normal difficulty.

There are some fantastic mechanics as well to the author's credit though. Being able to place cameras and move through screens as you try to catch them doing things in the dungeon is superb. It was so close to being amazing, but just didn't hit the mark overall.

In terms of the sex scenes, I thought they were generally quite good but would have preferred some aspects to be explored more in the beginning. The art is fantastic.

This game had huge potential but it bit more than it can chew.

The art is gorgeous and there is plenty of it, the story is unique, the characters are decent.


But it fails at delivering an erotic experience, it is most likely the most tedious game on this platform, in 3 hours of gameplay I managed only to get 1 scene.

The labyrinths suck, the game gets confusing at times without a quest of what to do or using names you aren't familiar with.


It truly heartbreaking, this game had so many good ideas yet it failed short and the most banal things.

Please do download this game and enjoy the recollection room, it is the only reason i gave it 2 stars.

PROs:
-Lots of CGs and content.
-Great game design
-Good looking maps
-Fantastic art
-Multiple endings

CONS:
-TEDIOUS you'll see this one a lot among other reviews and it's true. The tediousness comes primarily from the pacing and balancing. I feel like the tediousness would be less of a pain if the pacing was a little faster and number gains were bumped a little. Note: I went down the True Love Route, and NTR Route and it took me a full day each.

-Pacing, mentioned above pacing is a bit of an issue where the love interest will happily do an action with the antagonist, but in another scene be resistant and hate it within the same timeframe. Granted there is a lot going on behind the scenes for the scheduling system they have so I think this is largely due to a lack of scene variants in some parts and more in others.

-Visual Corruption, This one is more of a personal peeve, and while the game does have a little but of visual corruption it's not like full outfit changes or changes to the antagonists preferences in clothing or likes.
I'd like to see something like Star Knightess Aura does in it's corruption process where the hobbies, likes, topics, underwear, clothing are altered to suit the corruptor/antagonist more and more.
Again with the amount of CGs this game has that's a much more ambitious feat to pull off. Something to think about for the future.

-Translation, there are some rare spots where the text is still not translated. Like a bad end choice on the NTR Route, and I don't remember where, but a small bit of dialog in the old mansion? But it's not a massive issue since 99% of the game is translated.

Honestly, I'd love to see a sequel or a game that uses the same life-sim formula this game uses. Or a expanded version of this game with more content and further fleshed out scenes like an Atlus "Royal" re-release.

In reality, this game is probably just average (3/5) but there was so much potential here that I think it's better than most other RPGM games on this site.

The main issue is that the game mechanics are extremely obscure. You absolutely should read the guide so you even begin to understand how the game functions.

The second issue is that the game is tedious. I disagree with those that call it grindy, it's not that grindy. The game can probably be beaten decently fast. It's just that the game is slow (you are stuck escorting Kana through dungeons) and repetitive (you must revisit the same dungeons multiple times to weaken main boss, get better gear, and to unlock plot for the true ending). All this means is that while the game can be hot if the whole "is she simply fighting or am I getting cucked" part of the game is exciting to you (which it was for me), it's not rewarding to play. It get worst by the fact that once you understand the mechanics it's a) basically impossible to get cucked and b) way too easy to over gear both yourself and Kana. In other words, for a game about not getting cucked, the player has way too much control once they understand the game. Finally, my other big gripe with the game is that the scenes unlock at random and so Kana's behavior can therefore be disorienting at times which sucks because she would otherwise be an almost compelling character.

That said, while the whole blackmail cliché is frankly done in an extremely generic and boring manner, the game has unique mechanics that are overall interesting. The character art and voice acting are good. The fighting is above average. The story is interesting and genuinely sad at points. And if you find the whole "am I getting cucked?" part of the game exciting, then the game can (at it's best) be quite hot.

There was a lot of potential here that sadly was left poorly balanced and unrefined. I would recommend that you give the game a try if you find NTR exciting. It's not a good game, but it's better than average. 3.5/5. But please use the guide.

PS. You do not need to know where Kana is so long as you've left her only one path (she only goes forward and will not backtrack). You can also figure out what rooms she is gone through if the exorcism rate for those rooms is 100%.

This is a tough one.
The art is simply amazing, the story is far above average and theres a huge amount of CG/Content in the game. Mostly ntr ofcourse, but theres bascially something for everyone in terms of fetishes. The dev is known for creative storys and gameplay and is improving in that regard ever since his first game. The way to get new CG is extremly creative and has massive potential.
The fighting system is kinda unique and decent once you got the hang of it and theres some massive crafting part in the game too.
Basically a 5/5
HOWEVER sadly the game is just so fucking tedious. Never before have I seen such a amazing game ruined by grindy unfun features. The hentai is locked behind atleast two dozens hours of grind and planning (if you understood all the features from the getgo) after about 12 hours I unlocked about 20-25% of the CGs and then was faced with a ending which basically ended my run. Luckily the dev was smart about his game overs and let me start a NG+.
NG+ is pretty much what you need to actually play the game. So about 8 hours of grind till you get a NG+ start from the beginning and then you can actually start grinding the CGs.
Yeah, basically an amazing game ruined by unfun and extremly grindy mechanics. But there's light at the horizon, the dev already acknowledged the flaws in his game and promised to better in that regard for his next game.
Sadly a 5/5 game made to a 3/5 due to its unnecessary flaws.

A nice combination of gameplay eroge + NTR. Unfortunately, the game falls just short of fully satisfying the player on either of those elements.

First of all, there is clearly some thought put into the gameplay and combat mechanics. This is definitely enjoyable (up to an extent) as a true game when you compare it to the much more common low effort RPGM scene hunting games. I genuinely enjoyed the dungeon crawling and experimenting with different spell sets and powering up my characters. The lewd gameplay where you look for the GF in town and spy on her in dungeons was also interesting enough.

The issue is in the fine tuning. The combat mechanics are fairly unbalanced and you will quickly realized the missed potential here. Most spells are useless and you will come to realize the flawed balance in how these magics work, if you even bother to spend time understanding the elemental system. Some spells seem to be broken or bugged because they often do 0 or negligible damage even if you satisfy the damage conditions in their descriptions. (Quick tip: Fire + Frost combo is by far the mose useful).

The lewd aspects and the relationship building elements can feel tedious or grindy after a while. In some ways, it can give you a decent sense of realistic timescale in terms of corruption progression, but the RNG nature of the scene triggers can make it a bit annoying to raise her stats and it often leads to out of place scenes that don't match. The biggest problem with the lewd system for me was the fact that you need to be present in the area where the NTR takes place for it to show up later in the "dream replay room." That, combined with the whole spy camera thing made the experience lean too much towards netorase instead of NTR.

That said, there are ample optional in-game cheats for those that don't really want to engage fully with the gameplay. With all its faults, I still enjoyed my 15 or so hours spent playing this game. RPGM games that actually have legitimate gameplay are quite rare, and it even has NTR as a bonus.

Plus, the story is actually pretty decent and the pure route True End might be worth pursuing for those weird people that want to avoid NTR in NTR games.

Game requires a LOT of grinding if you play on normal difficulty. On my first playthrough blind, it took me over 15 hours to beat for the normal ending. I wish they explained that expansion of the town (I found out on the 2nd playthrough after reading the guide since I wanted it to be blind first time) was essential to getting any of the town upgrades/more variety than just park, pub, cafe scenes.

Despite my complaints on the game, the translation is great (found like 1 or 2 typos only), the art is fantastic, and Kana is really cute. I have been told the creator is making a new game after taking the criticism into account to make an even better game!

As others have pointed out, the grind in this game is seriously annoying. Art quality is great. Models are nice. Story is good (well, if you like male cuck protag PoV stories. Otherwise it's just okay. And if you hate it then just don't bother obviously), gameplay outside of the grind is somewhat unique for an RPGM and well done. Basically, everything about the game (as far as I bothered to play) is quite positive, 4 stars and up quality. But the amount of grinding you need to do for a lot of the story is unbelievably frustrating.

I understand it's tough to balance these sorts of stories to continue having engaging gameplay without grind while also not having the girl immediately go crazy for dick. But they failed hard there.

TL;DR: If it you ignore the grinding that is required for a lot of the story, it's easily 4 star or higher. You can probably enjoy the game if this is your kind of story. But you might want to just consider grabbing someone's save and gallery (most of it is unlocked already by OP's upload anyway, thought not all).

This is one of the most boring rpg maker games you could ever play, you have to grind so much just to get so little payoff, it's not worth it, just get the cg save and watch all the unlocked scenes (that you'll see were not even worth it)

The endings are boring and don't look finished, some aren't even colored, some are just 1-2 unfinished images with text.

There is 0 pixel art scenes, this makes the game boring because you have to roam around the map to get so little NTR scenes and most of the time you won't even find anything AND when you do it's just a completely black room with text. When it's not a black room, it's just the 2 characters standing in front of each other.

The dungeons are extremely confusing and boring, if you don't believe me, try it for yourself, NOT WORTH IT. You don't miss anything watching the recollection room, there is NO ROAMING SCENES, this should be a 2/5 visual novel, not a -5/5 rpg maker game.

Graphics :

The CG and the graphics are good anime /hentai style with adorable big eyes staple of japanesse anime/hentai. The MC, and the female character are drawn excellent so it is enjoyable on the eyes.

Sounds :

The music is fine, not over the top, there is the music and it isn't the generic rpgmaker mv music so that's something, plus there is the Voice Over for the female character that is excellent get you more in the mood for the game.

Gameplay :

The gameplay the combat gameplay have a unique way about it, it is challenging at first but once you got use to it, it is easy, the crafting as well challenging as you kind of didn't get what you want straight up, or you can try to get something near as close for your parner and just not you, you also need to do a bit of grinding again once you got the hang of it, it just repetition kind of boring on this departement but at least you can progress and there is always challenges even in the late part of the game, as the enemy also progress with your strength.

The NTR content, unlike other game that just you went out of control right off the bat, this one at least during my gameplay give you a fair chance of it, you still can attempt to try to distrupt the other character attempt to steal the MC's lover basically it reward your efforts for it and there is a true love ending avaiable , so at least the game give you a fair chance at it,

English translation :

It is passable, not mtl so it is way more enjoyable as offcourse , I don't see 'poem' or weird things that my my brain crawl as I read the text so this is good work.

Art and story are very well done, game play/mechanics are absurd.

The RNG is both great for stopping it being a scene click game, and frustrating as it can go 0-100 in no time at all, save early and often and rollback as required.

With cheats/guides it's bearable and worthwhile, but needs some QoL changes.

Waste of time don't even try it guys the mechanism is so idiotic that you can't even trigger simple event to progress further and you need to do same repetitive dungeon for small reward it's just not worth it your time too much grind..Shame because graphic look good..

I am 17 hours in and i tried to keep Lawrence away from her. My progression in the game is low; I learnt the mechanics, i only have 3 CGs unlocked. levels are getting too hard to increase now as the mobs grow stronger.
After 17 hour, her submission is too low because of all the time i spent learning mechanics, why is her ECG red, where is she going etc etc. Cheating belittles my effort to raise my character levels, think sunk cost. Cheating submission stats ruins the progression of corruption. But levelling it the proper way is too long with no proper payout. So i think i'm dropping the game.
I think the game is amazing. It captures the themes of ntr perfectly. Your lover treating u the same way while ruthlessly cucking you without your knowledge. Status 5 being hid away till late in the game gives u the perfect revelation for when u finally manage to access it. Hospital used to be my most hated map but now i think it's amazing after learning how it works.
There are several ways to improve this game imo.
1. the exp scaling of elite mobs need to be better. I rly dw to mindlessly grind levels in the same dungeons. I dont mind abit of grind but this game's grind is just too much.
2. This game needs a proper tutorial. Kana has 60 iq or something. " i'm in a corridor/ lounge." Well no shit sherlock can u be more specific. Especially for hospital, which floor Kana takes, which route she follows, has 0 hints from the game. Clearly explaining this mechanic would make the game alot more enjoyable for most. Otherwise, you end up like me, malding and testing the mechanics until it made sense while spending too much time.
3.Most importantly, the in town H events, has too much RNG involved. Lawrence needs certain condition to proc certain event, along with the RNG of being in the same place as where Kana is. Maybe someway to influence Lawrence's movement after 5pm would help.
It's all too much imo. Kana saying she's in an alleyway is frustrating. It could be intentional, she could be a serial liar for all i know like cheaters IRL but please be more specific. I am in an alleyway in central district or something FFS. That would help alot. Unless the goal is to make us search around frantically, which honestly is never fun.

All that being said, I did buy the game, I did buy the official TL, i dropped him a 5* review on dlsite. and i want to support the developer. I hope he refines the mechanics of the game with some QoL for the next game. The CGs are amazing i am almost tempted to redo and unlock NTR naturally instead of controlling it so harshly just to see the CGs. I also wish i knew male MC is a fucking NPC with 0 character development so I wouldnt hesitate cucking him.

Lastly, thank you for this swift official EN translation. I dont see mistakes in it and I'm happy i didnt need to wait years for an official TL if it was picked up by Kagura games

Very hot. Love the "competition" between the MC and antagonist. The best NTR is true the avoidable NTR because it hits harder when your actions or inactions triggers the NTR.

TBF, I used guides, mtool, and such to see all the scenes and play how I wanted to play. Overall I had a great experience.

The art style and voice was very good. I didn't really pay attention to the story. I wished the antagonist did a better job at being the NTR antagonist.

I'm hoping for more games like this in the future.

I'm a big fan of NTR games and especially like ones with "hidden camera" themes, so I guess I'm the target audience for this.

The gameplay is confusing and a huge pain in the ass. It takes a lot of time going through the boring gameplay to START to see some of the CG, which themselves are decent. The dev obviously put in a ton of work into this but this isn't fun at all.

Only play this game if you have no other NTR games to play and can dedicate hours of your time on this.

With a complete guide and some cheats to speed things up this is probably a 4-5 star game. As it stands I spent a little over six hours meandering around the same couple dungeons oneshotting ghosts for loot with random stats and one time the female protag got her boobs groped by the blonde one. I had little to no sense for if I was making progress, systems would be introduced and not explained at all, new dungeons would appear but they didn't seem to have a final boss and most of them were scaled well above the player character at the time. Eventually I got bored and checked out the gallery, decided it wasn't worth however many more hours grind there was to actually see the scenes organically and deleted the game.

TLDR: Lots of interesting looking systems with next to no explaination on how they function, very unclear progression.

Disappointing compared to this group's last game. This got high praise for being great netorare so I was excited. However, It ends up being the typical setup where to get the netorare, you need to sabotage yourself.

When I have to intentionally under gear the girl and even still choose to allow her to be assaulted and do nothing, it comes of as more netorase than netorare to me.

Combat is tedious and the game mechanics are not very intuitive. I was 6hrs in and had only seen the girl get her tits rubbed in a blurry image. And even when exploring the overworld I didnt run into any pixel scenes or anything of consequence.

Maybe things pick up, I did read some tips in the forum to speed things up (like taking all the girls gear off). But after 12hrs and having 1 picture of the girl in a bathtub and 1 blurry blowjob scene I decided that I'm just going to drop this and download a complete file.

Overall Id say im disappointed, the game is far more netorase than netorare to me. And that is just not what does it for me.

Updated - went back an looked at CGs with a complete save. Decent but not worth the effort it takes. Reducing to 1 star. Not sure why ppl give this 5 stars when their review is all negative, lol. Some people probably like the insanely slow pace, but it's not fo me. Especially sense this is not proper netorare.

Objectively there is a lot wrong with this game. It is too grindy. The mechanics are intransparent and it is hard to understand what needs to be done to achieve any end you want.

BUT I still love it. The art is gorgeous and the setup is unique. There is a (hard) way to avoid the NTR and both routes are viable. NTR as a failure mechanism is great. More games need to do that.

If you check it out, read up a bit. There is decent guides in this thread.

• One of the best NTR out there. •
Simple the top notch of BBQ Lover. This game is basically everything the team of BBQ Lover learned from all their previous games, .

• First playthrough •
It might be true that the first time I was playing, it was confusing. The exorcism and how Kana works is one of my main issue but after getting some hours the game become enjoyable.

The Male Protagonist is something really hard to accomplish without forcing the player to see what's happening but this game accomplish it making it to have content while you decide to see it or not which for me is the main relevance of the NTR in Male Protagonist.

• Going through the Gameplay in general •
The gameplay is really unique since the main character is forced to go alone while other things are happening.

The daytime is kinda confusing but when you get more and more Submission the game become defiant and one of the unique things of this is that... It's random. Sometimes Kana might be doing her job and sometimes she gets molested, the trouble for the protagonist is that, you can't know what she is doing. The integration of the phone is a double edged sword in this time, sometimes might be useful and sometimes will make Kana be distracted.

Now the nighttime is another thing. The nighttime is basically the result of how good you did to protect Kana basically giving you no way to relax unless you wanna get cucked. Here the phone become more useful and can help you get hints of where she might be. Even some people might tell you if she is nearby.

Now the fact that whether you protect her in day or night the result will be the same. While the protagonist try to protect Kana, Lawrence's anger grows bigger and bigger until one day he will get it without you knowing. Beginning the corruption of the heroine and the downfall of the protagonist.

I can go through the story but there is some spoilers that are necessary for the opinion that I was going to make.

Overall... This is all the knowledge BBQ Lover gathered into one game. Deserved 2022 award. Highly recommended to NTR Fans. Also the game have a good ending which some people appreciate.