Making a furry game without knowing anything about furries?

[furiani]

This may be a dumb question but as I'm starting out I don't know much yet.

I never really understood the whole furry thing, except for furry porn of certain types. I do think some of it is quite hot, and it feels tempting to add some furry stuff into my game.

But at the same time, I literally have no clue what yiff even means, or if a dog is allowed to have a human penis or if there's some deeply offensive things people who know nothing about this would do.

I'm not even into the animal side of it, what I find interesting is the "just a bit furry but still human features". I'm a bit afraid to even start looking into this stuff because everything seems to be super strict, and I'm kinda afraid if I just yolo it and call it a furry game people will get mad and call me out on being an idiot who's trying to capitalize on their precious market. Which isn't the case, I do think some furry stuff is really hot, as long as the dogs don't have dog penises.

 

[verified dick]

call me out on being an idiot who's trying to capitalize on their precious market

Just to be clear, this is what you are trying to do? If it isn’t, then you should stop.

 

[ManMcPanicic]

I doubt that anyone will react poorly to whatever kawaii anthropomorphism you put into your art style. And even if they do, it's a silly thing to be upset about. Personally, I will avoid your work like the plague, but I'm in no position to pass judgement.

 

[Hagatagar]

Why make a game about something you don't know about it and why its fandom find it hot? It's a surefire way to miss any possible target audience, besides the ones that are as vaguely interested in it like you.

It's like you add playful spanking to a game because you find it kinda kinky and hope to reach the BDSM crowd, while they are waiting with their dominatrix outfits and gimp mask in their sex dungeon waiting for more to happen then just a single slap on a buttcheek.

It's one of the reasons why most of the incest games doesn't really work for many of the incest crowd.
Simple saying "This is MC's mother" but having their relationship develop like every other one and nobody in the game having any reaction to this supposed-to-be-taboo-incest besides the mom saying "Oh no~, we aren't suposed to do this! *wink, wink*" will be pointless.

 

[furiani]

Just to be clear, this is what you are trying to do? If it isn’t, then you should stop.

I'm not sure in which direction you mean this, but just to make it clear, my point is to make a game about something I personally think is a good idea to make. A thing is a good idea to make when I find the topic hot, and also there are people interested in the topic. If I wanted to make generic bullshit that's irrelevant to me I'd be in insurance or banking.

My point was more of a ... I'm not a gigantic kink person myself. I like some stuff that's not totally vanilla, but I'm also not anywhere near the extreme.

Feels to me like there's a lot of gatekeeping around kinks ... can't like furries with real penises unless you also like furries with animal penises?

 

[ManMcPanicic]

Feels to me like there's a lot of gatekeeping around kinks ... can't like furries with real penises unless you also like furries with animal penises?

you're the only one talking about dog dicks here, and I doubt anyone is going to take that bait. I hope not, at least.

Stop beating around the meat and phrase your question in the form of a question. For example: "dog dicks: yea or nay?" Stop wasting people's time, we have important degeneracy stuff to do.

 

[Hagatagar]

Feels to me like there's a lot of gatekeeping around kinks ... can't like furries with real penises unless you also like furries with animal penises?

That's not entirely true, there's a bunch of furry porn out there with only human genitalia on anthro characters.
Besides that, you'll always find some extreme people in any kink/fandom that want their stuff in exactly the way they like it personally and everything else is "wrong".

 

[GNVE]

Why make a game about something you don't know about it and why its fandom find it hot? It's a surefire way to miss any possible target audience, besides the ones that are as vaguely interested in it like you.

It's like you add playful spanking to a game because you find it kinda kinky and hope to reach the BDSM crowd, while they are waiting with their dominatrix outfits and gimp mask in their sex dungeon waiting for more to happen then just a single slap on a buttcheek.

I'd actually say the exact opposite of this. A kink is not a True/False statement. It is not something you have or not. It is a sliding scale. Yes a single slap on the butt during sex is a form of BDSM. It might not be what most people understand to be BDSM but it is still about inflicting a little pain to heighten pleasure and/or assert dominance. You explicitly do not have to go full out to be interested in certain kinks. Same if you ever tied up a partner or blindfolded them during sex.
You also don't have to be a card carrying member. A lot of people fantasize about stuff without having any intention of carrying it out. Sometimes the fantasy is better than the real thing could ever be.
Think about having a rape fantasy. Even if the fantasy is a great escape for some (for those fantasizing about being the victim it might be about being able to let go, being submissive, allowing yourself to enjoy sex because you have 'no' choice, or being able to have sex you couldn't in real life for some reason (maybe gay sex in a culture that is really strict about that)) Yet I hope you understand that nobody actually wants to be raped. The real thing is a violent act beyond ones control where the rape fantasy is about the exact opposite. At best they might enjoy playing out the fantasy in a trusted setting.
So if you make a game within the limits of your kink there will be people that enjoy your game. In the furry camp there are a lot of games where girls have cat or dog ears and/or have tail but still mostly act human. (dimension 69 and mythic manor come to mind right now but there are many more) So yeah that is within the realm of furry without going all out.

 

[Hagatagar]

I'd actually say the exact opposite of this. A kink is not a True/False statement. It is not something you have or not. It is a sliding scale. Yes a single slap on the butt during sex is a form of BDSM. It might not be what most people understand to be BDSM but it is still about inflicting a little pain to heighten pleasure and/or assert dominance. You explicitly do not have to go full out to be interested in certain kinks. Same if you ever tied up a partner or blindfolded them during sex.
You also don't have to be a card carrying member. A lot of people fantasize about stuff without having any intention of carrying it out. Sometimes the fantasy is better than the real thing could ever be.
Think about having a rape fantasy. Even if the fantasy is a great escape for some (for those fantasizing about being the victim it might be about being able to let go, being submissive, allowing yourself to enjoy sex because you have 'no' choice, or being able to have sex you couldn't in real life for some reason (maybe gay sex in a culture that is really strict about that)) Yet I hope you understand that nobody actually wants to be raped. The real thing is a violent act beyond ones control where the rape fantasy is about the exact opposite. At best they might enjoy playing out the fantasy in a trusted setting.
So if you make a game within the limits of your kink there will be people that enjoy your game. In the furry camp there are a lot of games where girls have cat or dog ears and/or have tail but still mostly act human. (dimension 69 and mythic manor come to mind right now but there are many more) So yeah that is within the realm of furry without going all out.

Of course it's a spectrum, basically everything is a spectrum, even something as "simple" as sexuality.

I was primarily talking about reaching its primary target audience, for those softening a kink will only serve as an appetizer.
If one is content with a mainstream version of a kink, then it's alright, but one has to keep that in mind and not pretend/hope to be more than that.

 

[verified dick]

In the furry camp there are a lot of games where girls have cat or dog ears and/or have tail but still mostly act human. (dimension 69 and mythic manor come to mind right now but there are many more) So yeah that is within the realm of furry without going all out.

Catgirls are not furry.

 

[Hagatagar]

Catgirls are not furry.

They are when they don't shave down there.

 

[furiani]

Catgirls are not furry.

Aren't catgirls like inbetween vanilla girls and furry cats? Seems there's many types of catgirls, some have tails and behave like a cat, some just look like a cat.

 

[woody554]

there's no avoiding people getting mad and saying disturbing things about your game, there just isn't. doesn't matter if you make the most vanilla game in the world or avoid every hot button issue. it will happen, and you just need to make your peace with that.

now, after you get past that your next job is to figure out what kind of smut YOU want to jerk off to. if it's vanilla, that's fine. if it's ntr, that's fine too. and if it's people wearing cat-ears while puking shit from mouth to mouth while being watched by an old man stroking a kangaroo, doesn't make any diffference. you make what you want to see, that's the only 'taste rule' you need to concern yourself with. that's where it starts, that's where it ends.

third and by far the least meaningful issue is how you gonna market your game. this is the bit where you can listen to others, just a little bit, just so you can get your game out. but this is not the part where you walk over the two previous points, this is the part where you make tiny adjustments so you can find a reasonable way to realize that dream of yours from paragraph two. and the closer you get to paragraph two the better your game will be. which is what people respond to.

so make sure you have your priorities right. making something a random idiot in comments wants you to make is never gonna work. he can make his stupid game (which he won't), you make your awesome dream game.

 

[bethrezen0]

Don't remember there being some kind of strict rules or anything regarding making furry content.
The furry characters allowed to have whatever you want them to have. Being a furry is about liking the idea of anthropomorphic characters, not about animal genitalia.

Regarding what is a furry character or not, it's kinda blurry but quite simple. Anthropomorphic character is when you take something non-human and add human traits and features to it. But the line where you can say it's a furry or just a human with animal features is quite subjective. Many don't consider Kemonomimi(ur typical catgirls or other "insert animal here"girl/boy) and monstergirls as furry, since they are mostly just humans with animal ears and tails. They technically still count as anthro i think, but most furries like their anthros not being like 10% animal 90% human, and on the opposite side - ferals aren't that much popular either.

If that's what you mean by "just a bit furry but still human features" You don't need to worry about furries, monstergirls and stuff is it's own thing with it's own fans, you don't really have to call it a furry game.

And "Yiff" is just furry slang for sex or fucking, but also it can mean "furry porn".

Here's a popular pic i saw a lot, showing the types of an anthro character. Most furries would have their preferences in the 2-4 area i believe. While 1 and 5 are grey areas where many would say it's either borderline human or bestiality.

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[Kerfirou]

While 1 and 5 are grey areas where many would say it's either borderline human or bestiality.

Number 1 is basically human with animal ears, I think. That side is much more mainstream.