BlasKyau

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To clarify will we have the option of NOT turning into a spineless simp? Because judging by your responses in this thread it sounds like you are about the let a few whiners bully you into making what was intended to be mind control game into yet another "romantic" simp mc game which are already dime a dozen on this site. I had high hopes reading the summary and tags but seeing how fast you are backpeddling as soon as as two or three people start complaining and screeching "mind control = rape = bad bwa bwa" my hope for this game is dying quickly...

If you want to give an option of going full simp as some people are calling for that is one thing but I certainly hope there will also be an option of remaining dominant.
Personally, I want there to be the option of forced sex through mind control and the option to avoid it. If the first one doesn't exist, I can't choose the second one, and I like to prevent the MC from doing this kind of thing (rape, mind control sex, sleep sex, etc). But as I say, to avoid it there must also be the option to do so.

So I'll go the "simp" romantic route and actively avoid this kind of forced sex.
 

DarkDank

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Based evil MC mind control rape chads vs romantic virgins :ROFLMAO:

I legit don't get why you'd even download a game with Mind Control and rape tags, witht that description, and the title, if you're into romance.
I really don't get it at all.
 
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Personally, I want there to be the option of forced sex through mind control and the option to avoid it. If the first one doesn't exist, I can't choose the second one, and I like to prevent the MC from doing this kind of thing (rape, mind control sex, sleep sex, etc). But as I say, to avoid it there must also be the option to do so.

So I'll go the "simp" romantic route and actively avoid this kind of forced sex.
Then don't play a game that clearly has the rape and mind control tag if what you're looking for is consent. This is supposed to be a mind control game, nothing about it is going to be lovey dovey no matter how you try to spin it mate and the fact that the dev is now backpeddling over a few of you guys whining about there not being an option to opt out of the that kind of content is baffling.
 

DarkDank

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For the record, I'm also fine with no option and just evil route.
Lots of games have only romance options so why not just evil options?
I want the Dev to make the kind of game he truly wants to make.
 

Fallen Branch

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So, are we going around naked? If so, I do hope that it will be point out, never dealt with and become a runnning gag, because it would be hilarious.
 

Pringlesrock

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To the Dev. Just make the game you want to make/play. If you want to make and evil mind control game go for it. If for some reason you are more interested in a more romantic game go for it. Whatever you do just be upfront about it. If someone doesn't like that, ignore them or kindly tell them this just isn't the game for them.

Don't make the mistake many developers make of trying to please both sides. It is extremely difficult and time consuming to make all sides happy and you'll most likely burn out writing content for something you have no interest in. Heck, even if you do both sides some will still complain even if something like rape is completely avoidable. I'd suggest sticking mostly to what inspires you, especially when starting out. That said if you want to try making everyone happy, well like I said, that is your choice. But I'd suggest looking at some of the games with darker tags that got abandoned and look at the comment history and see how some things might be being repeated here.

That said I'm more interested in the project because of its darker tags.
 

zalamander

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To the dev: The game should be about what YOU want to make. Of course there are different opinions about everything, but you shouldn't try to appease everyone: it will never work in the end.

Here in this site there are lots of abandoned games because devs tried to appease everyone in their patreons or in several sites where posted their games. Do what you like, and have fun!. (BTW, your patreon seems disabled, let's hope not because some simp/woke idiot tried to denounce your game because is not what somebody wants it to be).
 
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HolyFish

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Thank you all for your suggestion. This is a mind control game after all, I will still let the MC use mind control to have sex and corrupt the girls without their consent. But I completely understand why people are not uncomfortable with using such methods.

My solution right now is to set a variable to see if you have sex with the girl using mind control or not. If you choose to do so, there will be scenes where the girl will react to the after effect of the control ( tired, strange feelings for you, sometimes act much lewder than normal due to corruption.) or something like that.

If you choose not to, you will have to wait until your relationship with the girl is high enough and she will give you a blowjob willingly. I will have to note that the girls will still act much lewder on both routes as time goes on. ( to save time for me, but will probably have some different lines of dialogue depend on whether they are corrupted or not. ) So the only real difference for the wholesome route is you have to wait longer to have sex and the girls act a bit shyer toward you.
 

Syrett

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small differences.
then it is more corruption with mind control aspects rather than mind control with corruption, methinks.

difficult thing to balance though, that much I understand.
go for what you think is best.
subtle, gentle mind control or the more evil mind control.
find your balance.
long as both routes aren't lovey dovey everyone will be somewhat satiated, i believe.
its up to what you want to create, really. go all in, or spread your chips.
 

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I cant seem to go the the museum on the Saturday like planned?

Also as for the game. I feel like, as Ai is our savior and we are a demon. Shes like really important to us, and we'll look after her with our powers if we must. She might even benefit from it as sif we have a contract between human and demon. If she could take some role, or be manipulated/corrupted into a role that follows our goals, I think that be nice. I'd be fine with it, if its concided dual MCs between the two in terms of a story.

However everyone else I want to come down hard. Such for example Hanna I didnt feel satisfied in dealing with her. Having her worship the ground MC and AI walk on would be amusing. Intervening when Hanna suggested taking us to the shrine to get exorcised was the right move. BUT we couldnt squash her resistance all that well. She kept answering back and with threats. In the end shes still listed a a friend?? Not even a pawn. Are we really suppose to be some great demon, but is weak as fuck ? So it kinda felt lacking in getting our authority over them. But at least the mindcontrol seems to have started working in the ecchi scenes. In the future, would we take it further into brainwashing ? Such as permanent effects of control ?

Other than that, seems like a good base for a mind control game. I honestly cant wait to mind control the exorcists like a badass demon would. If the game had options to corrupt these type of people, that would be my cup of tea.
 
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BlasKyau

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Then don't play a game that clearly has the rape and mind control tag if what you're looking for is consent. This is supposed to be a mind control game, nothing about it is going to be lovey dovey no matter how you try to spin it mate and the fact that the dev is now backpeddling over a few of you guys whining about there not being an option to opt out of the that kind of content is baffling.
I don't think you understood what I said: For my taste I want the possibility of rape/mind control sex to exist, since what I like is to choose not to happen. If there is no possibility, I cannot choose not to do it. I don't want him to remove the forced sex by mind control, for my tastes I want it to continue, but to be able to avoid it. I cannot do it in a game without mind control or rape. What I like is, having the option to do it, choosing not to do it.

On the other hand, it has been Dev who has decided to do avoidable the mind control sex, no one has forced him to do it. And from what I have understood his intention was already to make more or less romantic routes with the LIs after the first meeting.
 
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Thank you all for your suggestion. This is a mind control game after all, I will still let the MC use mind control to have sex and corrupt the girls without their consent. But I completely understand why people are not uncomfortable with using such methods.

My solution right now is to set a variable to see if you have sex with the girl using mind control or not. If you choose to do so, there will be scenes where the girl will react to the after effect of the control ( tired, strange feelings for you, sometimes act much lewder than normal due to corruption.) or something like that.

If you choose not to, you will have to wait until your relationship with the girl is high enough and she will give you a blowjob willingly. I will have to note that the girls will still act much lewder on both routes as time goes on. ( to save time for me, but will probably have some different lines of dialogue depend on whether they are corrupted or not. ) So the only real difference for the wholesome route is you have to wait longer to have sex and the girls act a bit shyer toward you.
This IS a mind control game, if you come here specifically to avoid the mind control, that has its own appeal but might burden you to add too many choices for what is ultimately just a specific situation which doesn't attract that many players. However, I won't comment more as it is up to the game dev to decide what they want to add and what they don't.

Going outside all the arguments about rape vs romance, may I propose an idea for extra options in the mind control? It is nice to see the girl's eyes turn hot pink when under control, but it is also sexy to just have them retain their eye colors and go without highlight.

Put simply, in this game we are a spirit -- maybe a demon of lust. Surely we are pros at mind controlling humans? It would be nice if we have alternative mind control options, with different visible effects on the girls.

For example, , a hypnosis technique which is fairly rarely used in mind control games. Sometimes, sudden stimuli like pulling their arm, brushing their hair, or other things which can briefly "steal" their attention can leave them open to good ol' hypnosis. Difficult for a human to do, but we are not human now, are we?

This leads to my second proposal: what we can do with the mind controlled girls. Making them do sexual things for you like handjobs and blowjobs is the essence of mind control porn, true. But it can be equally amazing to have YOU actively molest them while they cannot do anything.

Case in point: Hana is lying on the bed naked. The fact there is no option to just grope her breasts and watch her face go pink with lust is, frankly, nonsense. What spirit of lust doesn't think of all sorts of ways to pleasure himself and his victims?

Don't misunderstand me, I have a healthy passion for mind control games, this is all a sign of my desire to see your game become more amazing. Good luck and take care, dev.
 
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HolyFish

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So after collecting feedback, this is my updated version of the game.
- I changed the MC from a silent protagonist to an actual character who can speak, thus reducing the number of "choices".
- Added the option to avoid rape
- Fix grammar errors ( Thank you zeraligator )
- Added "Drain" scene

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Win/Linux: - -
Mac: - -

Personally, I prefer this MC and am glad I did the change, a talking MC makes the conversation flow better.
I will continue to collect feedback, but probably won't be able to make changes immediately since I have to work on the next update and keep the "New Update every week!" promise on Patreon, so please be patient.
 
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So after collecting feedback, this is my updated version of the game.
- I changed the MC from a silent protagonist to an actual character who can speak, thus reducing the number of "choices".
- Added the option to avoid rape
- Fix grammar errors ( Thank you zeraligator )
- Added "Drain" scene

Link:

Win/Linux: WORKUPLOAD - -
Mac: WORKUPLOAD - -

Personally, I prefer this MC and am glad I did the change, a talking MC makes the conversation flow better.
I will continue to collect feedback, but probably won't be able to make changes immediately since I have to work on the next update and keep the "New Update every week!" promise on Patreon, so please be patient.
The Drain options are quite nice, though I would say Ai and Sara need a bit more work. The sisters only have their expressions change when Lust touches them, but DURING the draining, their expressions don’t change at all. That can break the immersion.

On the other hand, Hana’s draining scene is decent: her expression changes twice after the draining begins and she even moans. You have good sense there; you should do the same with Ai and Sara’s drain scenes (as well as future girls), and you can consider making draining scenes more erotic for the future ones.

This IS a mind control game, if you come here specifically to avoid the mind control, that has its own appeal but might burden you to add too many choices for what is ultimately just a specific situation which doesn't attract that many players. However, I won't comment more as it is up to the game dev to decide what they want to add and what they don't.

Going outside all the arguments about rape vs romance, may I propose an idea for extra options in the mind control? It is nice to see the girl's eyes turn hot pink when under control, but it is also sexy to just have them retain their eye colors and go without highlight.

Put simply, in this game we are a spirit -- maybe a demon of lust. Surely we are pros at mind controlling humans? It would be nice if we have alternative mind control options, with different visible effects on the girls.

For example, , a hypnosis technique which is fairly rarely used in mind control games. Sometimes, sudden stimuli like pulling their arm, brushing their hair, or other things which can briefly "steal" their attention can leave them open to good ol' hypnosis. Difficult for a human to do, but we are not human now, are we?

This leads to my second proposal: what we can do with the mind controlled girls. Making them do sexual things for you like handjobs and blowjobs is the essence of mind control porn, true. But it can be equally amazing to have YOU actively molest them while they cannot do anything.

Case in point: Hana is lying on the bed naked. The fact there is no option to just grope her breasts and watch her face go pink with lust is, frankly, nonsense. What spirit of lust doesn't think of all sorts of ways to pleasure himself and his victims?

Don't misunderstand me, I have a healthy passion for mind control games, this is all a sign of my desire to see your game become more amazing. Good luck and take care, dev.
I will be waiting faithfully for when you implement next updates! I hope you will consider my proposed ideas.
 
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The Drain options are quite nice, though I would say Ai and Sara need a bit more work. The sisters only have their expressions change when Lust touches them, but DURING the draining, their expressions don’t change at all. That can break the immersion.

On the other hand, Hana’s draining scene is decent: her expression changes twice after the draining begins and she even moans. You have good sense there; you should do the same with Ai and Sara’s drain scenes (as well as future girls), and you can consider making draining scenes more erotic for the future ones.



I will be waiting faithfully for when you implement next updates! I hope you will consider my proposed ideas.
Noted, I will change their expression next update, it was late at night when I made their part so I got lazy.

As for the glowing eyes, it is there to show that they are completely under control, their eyes won't glow when the control level is weak ( Like when you first met Ai on the mountain ) or is under suggestion.

I'm planning to have their eyes retain normal color in future story scene when the MC need them to be conscious and in some sex event.

I'm thinking about pet play, the girl will be in their underwear and wear cat ears and tail, first you control them, their eyes glow, they put on their outfit, then you weaken your control so their eyes return to normal and they can actually act like a cat and not a mindless zombie.

Finally about your suggested hypnosis technique, maybe I will use them in a future story scene but it feels kinda unnecessary when, as you said, the MC is not human and can put them under control at will without distracting them first.
 
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Could you possibly make it so that the game alerts you to when all of the content has been seen? I kind of guessed everything was done after a few days of nothing happening but I think that in a bigger release, it might be a little annoying clicking around to find content when there isn't any left. I really like this game and I love how this is one of the few games where mind control starts off pretty strong instead of only being able to slightly affect inhibitions or something after however many days. I really hate it when other people do that sometime.
 

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Could you possibly make it so that the game alerts you to when all of the content has been seen? I kind of guessed everything was done after a few days of nothing happening but I think that in a bigger release, it might be a little annoying clicking around to find content when there isn't any left. I really like this game and I love how this is one of the few games where mind control starts off pretty strong instead of only being able to slightly affect inhibitions or something after however many days. I really hate it when other people do that sometime.
You can check the "Love status" button to see if there is any current quest for the character or not.
 
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