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All in all, I just think that, at this point in time, Nodoka's a weak character, and she's mostly used as a plot device to make things happen. Reading Nodoka's events is sometimes like "what has she done now?" - and all of it is outrageous. And if every event is outrageous the character starts to become more of a device than a real thing.

Simply put, I find her character uninteresting as an individual. I just feel like Nodoka's character arc hasn't even started, there is no conflict, no growth, just a zealot hellbent on her crusade, whilst ignoring any possibility of a meaningful reevaluation of her actions. No consequences affect her, no developments really change her outlook, there's just no change in course (she just advances in perversion). Which, by the way, would be totally fine if we didn't discuss Nodoka every 5 hours, which I think is the biggest issue - and I would just not mind most of what I said if not for the overthinking.
Very well said. I imagine the reason why the self-insert things come rather often especially around Nodoka is exactly because her own story seems to be going nowhere, or hasn't started like you said. Thus when thinking about the in-story purpose of smartass characters such as herself, people have no other option but default to assuming their roles being either plot device or creator's self-insert. Neither of those is in-universe and thus neither of those is a good trait one assigns to characters that player can interact with on a daily basis.

The most generous benefit of the doubt I can give regarding Nodoka's purpose is that perhaps she is there mainly for tapping into cosmic secrets, and nothing more. Aka, understanding her episodes, her limitless knowledge, the upside down house, Kyoko Nagasawa, and understanding this senseless world through or with her are her purposes; and the rest will either be plot devices for others or simply go nowhere.

Like, at this point of time I've almost completely given up on Nodoka route receiving any interpersonal development content. Judging from how her book arc concluded and how things just seamlessly transitioned to Nodokathon, I sincerely don't know if she'd ever get her fair share of a long overdue kick in the shin. Maybe she will in the future, but after waiting months for any fallout to happen and none happened, I might as well believe that Selly personally tailors and puts a full set plot armor on her, grovels at her feet, before going out to get her coffee.
 
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BlackDays

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Wasn't me... but KK studio

Pretty sure just code got edited and my pfp got placed over Puta's face...
I always wondered what people like you get out of that.
Care to shed some light on it?
I guess we two should be beyond pretending.
 

Riolol

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I always wondered what people like you get out of that.
Care to shed some light on it?
I guess we two should be beyond pretending.
What does this mean? I think you may have misread the situation, either that or I did.
 

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What does this mean? I think you may have misread the situation, either that or I did.
"Wasn't me... but KK studio

Pretty sure just code got edited and my pfp got placed over Puta's face..."

You read that, right?
Tell me if there is space to interpret this any other way besides "that was cute girl magic" :rolleyes:

Maybe i'm high and driving a tractor on a drug farm, but damn.
For anyone who can do those things, like editing script files aso, but still questioning all that stuff, in that certain way espacially.
Ooooh, cmon.
 

Riolol

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"Wasn't me... but KK studio

Pretty sure just code got edited and my pfp got placed over Puta's face..."

You read that, right?
Tell me if there is space to interpret this any other way besides "that was cute girl magic" :rolleyes:

Maybe i'm high and driving a tractor on a drug farm, but damn.
For anyone who can do those things, like editing script files aso, but still questioning all that stuff, in that certain way espacially.
Ooooh, cmon.
He didn't make the edit, somepersonoutofnowhere edited his pfp into a scene and changed the text for the lols. I'm not sure what he used, could have been KK, could have been ms paint as it's just a screenshot from the game and not a newly rendered scene. Hope that clears that up.
 

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He didn't make the edit, somepersonoutofnowhere edited his pfp into a scene and changed the text for the lols. I'm not sure what he used, could have been KK, could have been ms paint as it's just a screenshot from the game and not a newly rendered scene. Hope that clears that up.
Yea... but the text... I wonder if he just changed the scene's code or straight out made a new scene...
 

BlackDays

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He didn't make the edit, somepersonoutofnowhere edited his pfp into a scene and changed the text for the lols. I'm not sure what he used, could have been KK, could have been ms paint as it's just a screenshot from the game and not a newly rendered scene. Hope that clears that up.
Ok, i saw that post from somepersonoutofnowhere now.
And you're right, that one is on me.

I thought both came from Nadekai.
Hence why i thought, why being so strange about your own doings.

But,... there's still something bothering me.
 
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Thanks to the power of Bingoogus's URM signature I changed the text and names and afterwards just did the editing on Paint.net

Ok, i saw that post from somepersonoutofnowhere now.
And you're right, that one is on me.

I thought both came from Nadekai.
Hence why i thought, why being so strange about your own doings.

But,... there's still something bothering me.
What's bothering you?
 
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I guess you are right, but it was less any emotion i have towarda sel and more the fact that the girls still did appear at her little sex event that let me sort of forgot about those things. I mean i can see Kirin just not caring, Makoto still on her "everything resets nothing matters" trip, Sana been too horny because of what the sexgods did to her. But i am still disapointed that Ron, Molly and Noriko did appear and have seemingly no problem with what she did. Because i really cant find any excuse for those three to appear. I mean molly and ron may have been gotten the hornies and noriko was dragged along by kirin, but that is just not enough.
Honestly I wouldn't have thought the event made sense even if it didn't happen right after Nodoka torpedoed her rep. Sure all the girls there have reasons to explore new weird sex things, but only Kirin would be okay with her sexcapades becoming tomorrow's hot gossip. So they'd only join an orgy with someone they trusted, and most of them aren't that close to Nodoka. Except for Rin, who knows firsthand that Nodoka does not keep secrets at all.

The whole thing for me is just a weird porn-logic interlude that I'm hoping doesn't contain important plot information that comes up later.
 
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Honestly I wouldn't have thought the event made sense even if it didn't happen right after Nodoka torpedoed her rep. Sure all the girls there have reasons to explore new weird sex things, but only Kirin would be okay with her sexcapades becoming tomorrow's hot gossip. So they'd only join an orgy with someone they trusted, and most of them aren't that close to Nodoka. Except for Rin, who knows firsthand that Nodoka does not keep secrets at all.

The whole thing for me is just a weird porn-logic interlude that I'm hoping doesn't contain important plot information that comes up later.
I was hella confused by that too...
Not only does Nodoka behave like bitch most of the time...
She harmed Io... IO of all the people...
... My beloved Io....
... At least it wasn't Io and Uta...

And they still joined her... "Cumpetition"
Even though neither of them really should care...
 
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Riolol

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I was hella confused by that too...
Not only does Nodoka behave like bitch most of the time...
She harmed Io... IO of all the people...
... My beloved Io....
... At least it wasn't Io and Uta...

And they still joined her... "Cumpetition"
Even though neither of them really should care...
Io's kind of a bitch tbh, she didn't deserve that from Nodoka but she's one of the few people Yumi opened up to and she laughed in her face. I can't forgive that.
 

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Akira will probably relate Io's past to his own actions rather than his own abuse. Either way I don't think he will react well.
I'm not sure about that. He goes batshit as soon as he catches even the lightest whiff of Sekai, who was very specifically a female authority figure that abused him. Not to mention whatever is up with his mom messes with him on an even more severe level considering the whole cathedral thing during the holiday dorm ways.

If he does relate his own actions to Io's abuse though, her circumstances might make him make a connection between his own actions and the actions of sekai and/or his mom, which I cannot imagine going well frankly.
 
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Thanks to the power of Bingoogus's URM signature I changed the text and names and afterwards just did the editing on Paint.net


What's bothering you?
Someone that asks so much questions.
Normally i endorse that.
But there are people out there just playing the "What is this, what is that, role", to get some attention.
Seen that before.

Like: "Oh, im going to play this game now and let everyone listen/read to how i do it."
While it's obvious, they played it before.

But i guess i was wrong here.
 
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