mandragoora

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Because Mars wasn't engaging in the carnal and sexual euphoria as you put it, he was rescuing him from it. He was saving Erin and giving him back his dignity, replacing his humiliation with love and acceptance. It was the first time in Erin's life that someone unconditionally accepted him for who he is without any attached expectations and it was the first time in Mars's life that he managed to help someone without sabotaging them or himself, improving both of them together. It was a romantic and loving moment at the end of a very dark road for both of them.
Although i understand you since the game gives this choice of play, however from my perspective Mars could never love or have any affection AT ALL towards Erin (not that he can't, he don't wanna, he don't care about anything except power and lust), making Erin his female was the ULTIMATE way of defeating his arch enemy, he didn't just beat the Hero, Mars made Erin his submissive happy female slave. I can't imagine a better way to finish this Erin part of the story.

I've never saw Mars as a person capable of loving anyone (certainly not Erin from all ppl), he's a Demon whom only purpose is bring CHAOS to everybody, specially women.

At every choice and input i could have, i would choose only to use the girls as masturbators/fuck toys and nothing more, because that's what i felt it was the best course from Mars' storyline since the beginning. I hate everytime they throw affection into his persona, i don't think it fits at all, i just ignore it, pretend it didn't happen and kept on.

I like to think Mars' storyline is similar to Asmodeus', Asmodeus was the one who guided Sodom to its utmost degradation by fornication and lust, and he was one the first NTR historic figures.

That being said, i wish at least that when this game is finally over our decision making would change the outcome of many thins, songs included... or not, i could just change it manually as i do now...
 

Trono-10

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from my perspective Mars could never love or have any affection AT ALL towards Erin

I've never saw Mars as a person capable of loving anyone

At every choice and input i could have, i would choose only to use the girls as masturbators/fuck toys and nothing more, because that's what i felt it was the best course from Mars' storyline since the beginning. I hate everytime they throw affection into his persona, i don't think it fits at all, i just ignore it, pretend it didn't happen and kept on.
In any fiction there is a part that isn't written; a part that only exists in the spectator's head. If you choose to have it as your head canon that Mars is a ruthless sex monster then that's your version of the story and it's fine.

It's clearly been shown that Mars is not a sex monster incapable of affection; his relationship with Vi is testament enough of that. It's just that this is the one thing he's been formed to do and one he's extremely good at. But after so long ruining lives he's grown sick and tired of it.

Maybe in a future path you can push him towards more of an unfeeling tyrant but as far as the story goes, he's doing a job he's grown to dislike, because he knows the ending is never pretty and he doesn't want that.
 
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How can an art be so godlike and sometimes also rough? There's definitely issues with lighting and coloring in some scenes. There's also issues with proportions of the human body in some characters.

Unfortunately, Mars suffers the most from this in various scenes, it is a bit jarring noticing the differences when say you watch scenes of him with Cecille and then scenes of him with Sera back to back for example. I've made this comment before but he can go from pale-ish, to tan, to outright black.

With Yvet and Odette, Mars is dark-skinned. With Sera, he at best has a beach tan. It might be just contrast. There's also proportions. Not only Mars but Cecille and Sera don't seem to have quite consistent body sizes (especially when we're talking bust for Cecille, everything else for Sera) or perhaps it is the artist's trying different perspectives/povs which is giving this impression.

Cecille is immune to lighting and coloring issues at least. In fact, she's got the best art in the game and the least issues. This is just a comment, I don't really expect Nitrolith to redraw a significant part of the game's art just because a few shades of lighting in a few scenes are brighter or darker.
 

GreenBlue

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How can an art be so godlike and sometimes also rough? There's definitely issues with lighting and coloring in some scenes. There's also issues with proportions of the human body in some characters.

Unfortunately, Mars suffers the most from this in various scenes, it is a bit jarring noticing the differences when say you watch scenes of him with Cecille and then scenes of him with Sera back to back for example. I've made this comment before but he can go from pale-ish, to tan, to outright black.

With Yvet and Odette, Mars is dark-skinned. With Sera, he at best has a beach tan. It might be just contrast. There's also proportions. Not only Mars but Cecille and Sera don't seem to have quite consistent body sizes (especially when we're talking bust for Cecille, everything else for Sera) or perhaps it is the artist's trying different perspectives/povs which is giving this impression.

Cecille is immune to lighting and coloring issues at least. In fact, she's got the best art in the game and the least issues. This is just a comment, I don't really expect Nitrolith to redraw a significant part of the game's art just because a few shades of lighting in a few scenes are brighter or darker.
I was a body proportion nazi too. But I started to respect and like art like this. It gives it a lot of character and uniqueness. I know it's a stupid defense. But ill probably recognize them anywhere. "Oh this art was done by that guy, what's his name Nitro-something?"
And I like that is pixelated, It probably takes less time to do a frame compared with full photoshop art. Ergo more frames/art. And it does the job nearly the same.
Still, there is scenes with Elena where I thought she has a scar on her face, but it was her hair lol.
 
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I was a body proportion nazi too. But I started to respect and like art like this art. It gives it a lot of character and uniqueness. I know it's a stupid defense. But ill probably recognize them anywhere. "Oh this art was done by that guy, what's his name Nitro-something?"
And I like that is pixelated, It probably takes less time to do a frame compared with full photoshop art. Ergo more frames/art. And it does the job nearly the same.
Still, there is scenes with Elena where I thought she has a scar on her face, but it was her hair lol.
Same, it kind of grows on you. It is exactly because some of those oddities and slight issues are so recognizable that you can just immediately recognize it. It has its charm, somehow.

Despite the character and plot being so good, this game wouldn't be so great without its art and all its quirkiness.
 
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GreenBlue

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Same, it kind of grows on you. It is exactly because some of those oddities and slight issues are so recognizable that you can just immediately recognize it. It has its charm, somehow.

Despite the character and plot being so good, this game wouldn't be so great without its art and all its quirkiness.
Yep, the strongest point of this game is the story, and the art is the second strong point, there is only one game I saw with this kind of art style, "Aurelia" the dialogue and story was not what I wanted, I wanted flowery old school DnD fantasy dialogue where instead of saying pussy, you say nether region, and dick is phallus.(I want fancy porn :D) But it's all just "fuck my pussy please" current year bullshit.

Anyways this game is in 0.1%, even NTR haters will love it.
 

Shadow Blade

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How to advance after the hero spies on them? I only get the uneventful image where they are resting in the bed. the level is above 2000000 and going to the fighting section doesn't show anything new. I need to focus in a secondnary character?
 

Sewyoba

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How to advance after the hero spies on them? I only get the uneventful image where they are resting in the bed. the level is above 2000000 and going to the fighting section doesn't show anything new. I need to focus in a secondnary character?
You have no idea how little it narrows it down, lol. Fighting section doesn't matter because it's early in development, so you can safely skip it. Go around talking to everyone, you probably need to talk to Lavinia, or yeah, advancing Sera
 

Lucas012

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Question: If all solo routes eventually lead to the duel in some form, how in the hell are new players starting from the next update supposed to achieve a harem route?
 

kinglionheart

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Question: If all solo routes eventually lead to the duel in some form, how in the hell are new players starting from the next update supposed to achieve a harem route?
There are no routes yet. Only activities that you have to do to advance the story or optional activities that won't change anything. It is after the duel will the game reach it's final part and will have actions determine what route Mars goes down.

I repeat nothing you do now will affect anything other than some bad endings. By the time we get route splits I am sure the game will provide a way to track affection levels or at least a cheat to change it.
 

Lucas012

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There are no routes yet. Only activities that you have to do to advance the story or optional activities that won't change anything. It is after the duel will the game reach it's final part and will have actions determine what route Mars goes down.

I repeat nothing you do now will affect anything other than some bad endings. By the time we get route splits I am sure the game will provide a way to track affection levels or at least a cheat to change it.
I meant in the sense that you will be forced to skip all other events once you reach the final event for any character. Not to mention the fact that they would all lead to deviations in how the "duel" would happen.
 

kinglionheart

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I meant in the sense that you will be forced to skip all other events once you reach the final event for any character. Not to mention the fact that they would all lead to deviations in how the "duel" would happen.
I don't understand what you mean by skipping all other events. The duel is just another story event as far as I know. Nothing you do will change anything about it.
 

Lucas012

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I don't understand what you mean by skipping all other events. The duel is just another story event as far as I know. Nothing you do will change anything about it.
It's mentioned in the last event for Sera (can't remember whether or not it's mentioned in the rest). I'm assuming it's the same for all of them. Besides it wouldn't make much sense for you to be able to continue with the rest of the events since they all lead to the same "duel" albeit for different reasons. And that duel would have happened if you complete the events of any character.
 

kinglionheart

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It's mentioned in the last event for Sera (can't remember whether or not it's mentioned in the rest). I'm assuming it's the same for all of them. Besides it wouldn't make much sense for you to be able to continue with the rest of the events since they all lead to the same "duel" albeit for different reasons. And that duel would have happened if you complete the events of any character.
The duel is something that has to happen for the story to continue. There is no indication that doing or not doing any characters' events will affect anything. Maybe that will change when the game is closer to completion but for now there is no routes to worry about.
 
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