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bspornos

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Dec 5, 2017
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To everybody talking shit- How many games have you all developed? How often are your updates coming out? Do you happen to work a full time job besides developing a game? How much money have you personally contributed to the development of this or any game? Just curious.
Ah, the have you ever <insert action here before> argument. The argument used when you have no actual arguments. You don't need to cook to know if something tastes bad and you don't need to be a developer to know this is milking at this point. Look I am not expecting hours worth of content every month but what Cazier has been putting out is like a days work at most and he is accepting money from people and just stringing them along.
 

JohnDoeMars

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anything else to do?
Yes...be patient till next update :cool:
That's it for this one.
And btw, unless updates are small, they are regular and I think it's one of the best game here (characters, animations).
Don't forget the majority on F95zone doesn't support the dev at all (as for other games) and still can get updates and the opportunity of endless complains.
Ungratefulness at its best.
 
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BiggestOfBois

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To everybody talking shit- How many games have you all developed? How often are your updates coming out? Do you happen to work a full time job besides developing a game? How much money have you personally contributed to the development of this or any game? Just curious.
Yeah and NLT finished 2 games before u could even have sex in this game.....
 

BVonkX

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May 6, 2017
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Yeah and NLT finished 2 games before u could even have sex in this game.....
Not every developer has the same amount of time/people to work on a game. Doesn't mean a game is going "wrong" in my opinion.

Everyone can choose for themselves whether the game is worth playing and/or supporting the developer. And both are still happening despite all the fuss.
 

bspornos

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Dec 5, 2017
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Not every developer has the same amount of time/people to work on a game. Doesn't mean a game is going "wrong" in my opinion.

Everyone can choose for themselves whether the game is worth playing and/or supporting the developer. And both are still happening despite all the fuss.
While this is true, at some point you can tell when a developer is putting in minimal effort and just stringing people along and while that's not illegal it is pretty scummy. If it was just slow or updating other girls it wouldn't be so bad but there has been a drop in quality, I mean what even were the angles and lighting on the mika animations? Then there was the update a few version back that was called "big" by the dev and it was easily the shortest where nothing really happened.
 
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HentaiSlaves

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Not every developer has the same amount of time/people to work on a game. Doesn't mean a game is going "wrong" in my opinion.

Everyone can choose for themselves whether the game is worth playing and/or supporting the developer. And both are still happening despite all the fuss.
If you want my opinion i think the game is worth playing, but not so much a worth to support it for obvious reasons example i can understand that the update is slow to some extent but bating the main content for the game and adding something else while avoiding to add the main thing, when you need years to make 1 sex scene without penetration that tells you something.
 
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Dude137

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To everybody talking shit- How many games have you all developed? How often are your updates coming out? Do you happen to work a full time job besides developing a game? How much money have you personally contributed to the development of this or any game? Just curious.
I always roll my eye when I see this sort of comment. "Oh, you're not paying for the game; therefore, you have no real right to complain or criticize." It's wrong and narrow-minded. People should criticize here where it's due, and that criticism, even if harsh or poorly worded, should be valuable to any well-meaning developer. I'll explain why.

What is F95zone, exactly? Yes, it's pirate site at it's core--but because it's become so popular and visited so often, it's become much, much more. In essence, it's free advertising space for the devs. If I were to make an adult game, I'd put it on F95zone immediately. Why? Because F95zone would be one of the best places to spread awareness of my games and garner a following. I'd bet F95zone could even charge devs to host their games on this site, and it would be worth it in the long run. Advertising usually costs a ton of money, but here devs get free advertising.

"But whaaa! You're just gonna give your game away for freeeezies! You can't make money that way, idiot!" you might say. Sure, but that's the nature of creating porn these days--a ton of it is already free. You can't lock your product behind a paywall in a world overflowing with free porn and hope to make money that way; most people will just go to wherever it's free.

So how can devs of adult games hope to accrue patrons and their money in a world of free porn? It's simple: they need to get awareness of their games out to as many people as possible (which F95zone accomplishes; some of the games here have millions of views, etc.), and from those many people who view and sample the games, the devs are competing for the small percentage of people who can and are willing to pay.

Because of this inherent setup, F95zone is invaluable--and, by extension, all of the players who play the game for free and leave reviews, even if those reviews are harsh and negative. Why? Because if a game isn't worth playing for free (as is generally implied when any game has a ton of frustrated comments/reviews), you can be damn well sure it isn't going to be worth paying for.

Moreover, F95zone and harsh reviews protect the buyer. Devs are not always victims, even though their games are being played for free! Remember, they are asking for money for unfinished products, and there is no system in place to protect patrons' money once spent.

And my opinion of this game? The dev has #fuckarounditis. He has a little over 400 patrons, and that surely brings in a tidy little sum--just enough to encourage him to plod along with the bare minimum. Just another case of wasted talent. The game has been in development for five years or so and has little to show for it. Yeah, maybe he works a full time job or whatever, but my gut instinct says that after five years' time, any dev who actually cared about his or her product would have accomplished much more, despite a busy schedule.
 
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anoneemous

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good expectation for next updates, we got 3 updates in a row with good animations, feels that next update will be what everybody expects, unless dev adds a new girl and the cycle repeats
 
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BVonkX

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how to Rosie lvl 5 event? or is it uncomplete?
Rosie currently goes up to level 4.

Rosie (daughter): masturbation, handjob, blowjob, finger pussy, pussy lick and pussy grinding (level 4)
Lucy (sister): masturbation, footjob, hand/blow job, pussy lick and VAGINAL SEX (level 4)
Mika: kissing, pussy lick and VAGINAL SEX (level 3)
May: kissing, HJ, BJ and VAGINAL SEX (level 3)
Mini game Zombie Summer: BJ, VAGINAL SEX and trio (MMF)

In the overview of the girls you can see if there is anything else that you have not seen yet. If there are no "!" more with the girls so you've seen everything. Wait for future updates. ;)
 

Darkherod

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Jul 23, 2022
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Think i somehow broke it? Rosie is like level 4, Lucy is level 2 mike and may are stuck at 1 and i am stuck at home sick?
 

yaguna

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Oct 7, 2018
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I haven't played this game in a long time but saw this picture from

I would like to know which update it is in.
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AddisonF4c3

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I haven't played this game in a long time but saw this picture from

I would like to know which update it is in.
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its not in the game yet it was just a wallpaper caizer made but i asked him about three way content with MC, Rosie, and Lucy and he said he did plan to do it just after he did the sex for Rosie and it would be one of the last things before the game is completed
 
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Jack0h

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There are a few main issues with this game and two specific problems popping up in this forum. Ill address the latter first.

It has been argued that arguing/bitching/complaining here is useless, because 'everyone knows that no one here supports the game'. Its statistically improbably that the above is inaccurate. True, the majority of people who come here to complain about the game's content [or rather, the startling lack of it] are playing the game for free. However, I am willing to bet a sizable amount that many of these people are either former supporters who are feeling burned by having supported a game that is progressing at a much slower rate than they are used to, or eager to become supporters, if only they had any evidence to support that their support would be rewarded with content they are consistently asking for.

The second fallacy made here is that Caizer isn't aware of the negative feedback; he'd be a complete moron to not at least have someone update him with regards to the venues where the game is discussed. Most game devs do not live in a vacuum - they are fully aware of how their game is being seen outside of the Yes Men that his supporters represent and rubberstamp all of his content. So, while he may not reply to any of the posts here [and considering the heat of some of the comments, he's smart to stay hidden/under a pseudonym].

The third fallacy is the argument that the 1300+ subscribers he has [or had, until he was kicked from the Patreon platform] at $2usd/month means the fellow is earning around $5,200k usd per month, or $62,400/year.

And that's just the first tier. He has tiers ranging up to $40 usd a month. This means he is potentially earning somewhere between $62,400 - $1.25 million per year.

It is true that the lower end of that is about average for a lot of 9-5 jobs out there, but I think its a fair assessment that a lot of the work that Caizer does with the game would maybe take a weekend of posing and rendering [bc the writing is inconsistent and rife with grammatical errors that never get corrected, suggesting that proofreading isn't that high a priority]. Since he ostensibly updates once per month, that means he works at most 20 hours for a monthly check of at least $5,200 per month.

HS is indeed a cash cow, and I wouldn't begrudge him his earnings, if he did the work to earn it. Everything he puts into the game, from the dialog to the clunky mechanics of the game [no rollback, no scene gallery, no 'quest' log to know when all content had been found] suggests that maintenance - and not creating extensive content - is his goal.

It can easily be surmised that - at best - Caizer is growing as bored with this game as he did with his previous, abandoned game [MLS]. I submit that he is likely offering the least amount of effort is being expended to continue providing content to keep the cows fed just enough to keep giving milk. At worst, he is simply milking people because those people let him. Why do more work when there are more than enough people willing to pay for less?

The moment more people start tumbling to this will be the moment that Caizer dumps this game and starts another one - as he did with MLS.

And most of you won't see it coming until your payment clears before the game is simply shuttered.
 
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