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For NTR Fans, which do you prefer?

In NTR games do you like it if the PC can still have sex with the girls or is forced to observe?


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Pretentious Goblin

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NTR isn't my favorite genre, but since were all on the topic, three thing really piss me off with "NTR"

1. The story of "Oh here is my <insert pre-exsisting platonic relationship> friend or whatever, and by virtue of the fact I like said friend (Or the troll logic of being first to harbor such feelings) this is now NTR. No. It's not. That's not NTR, that's the character missing their chance.
I respectfully disagree. There are manga that are tagged as NTR on Japanese sites and made by Japanese artists who specialize in NTR, that have this setup, as well as with family members (without incest). I agree it's not cuckolding, but such scenarios can be considered NTR by the people who are most qualified to define what NTR is.


 

VegitoHlove

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I respectfully disagree. There are manga that are tagged as NTR on Japanese sites and made by Japanese artists who specialize in NTR, that have this setup, as well as with family members (without incest). I agree it's not cuckolding, but such scenarios can be considered NTR by the people who are most qualified to define what NTR is.


Huzaah, Good sir! I counter you with:


What described in that video seems to require romantic relationship does it not?
 

hakarlman

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I love NTR games of all forms.

Please make sure you DO NOT force the MC to have sex with the women. I hate when the game forces it. It's an instant turn off if I'm playing a masochistic character. Even if I'm playing a Harem game, I still do not want to be forced to have sex with any women, because I may be unattracted to some of them, while being highly attracted to the others.

Forcing any sexual activity of any kind should always be avoided in any adult game (within reason of course), but always try to let the player choose to engage in said sexual activity. Choice is the WINNER every time, because everyone's tastes are so vastly different. Shoot for letting the player CHOOSE as much as possible!

If the NTR game is good, but it forces the player to have sex with the women, then it's half ass NTR, and not worth a Patreon subscription. This is the biggest mistake game developers make when mixing a Harem & NTR game.

The fact that you asked this question means your gut instinct is telling you NOT to force the MC to have sex with anyone on the NTR route, that is wise. Remember, those who like NTR love masochistic humiliation, pain, & rejection. Even if there is femdom in the game, DO NOT force any femdom scenario, because the range of kinks are so wide, not all people are into the same kinks.

So it's like this:

a) can't have sex with girls (chooses not to, masochistic cuckold who watches her get fucked)
b) has sex with the girls alongside NTR guys (sharing)
c) keeps the women to himself and defeats the NTR guys (harem)

Here are alternate options:
d) netorase: The MC is dominant, but chooses never to have sex with her and instead wants to watch her get fucked by other guys.
e) netori: MC goes around stealing wives(seduction) & girlfriends from other guys, then fucking them.


edit: IMO, the poll shouldn't of closed. You should put a link to the poll in your signature, so it gets more exposure. IMO you need at least a couple hundred votes to get a feel for things. In future, if you make a poll, don't close it. Just let it go on forever & ever, because people will find it via search from this forum or google, etc.
 
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rgnar62

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I prefer without sex.
I would love to play a sandbox game where you corrupt your girlfriend to have sex with other guys. But honestly without opening up to her, for example you go shopping for more and more revealing clothes and leaving gaps for a friend to flirt with her.
You just described my dream game man!!
 

Icarus Media

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I prefer without sex.
I would love to play a sandbox game where you corrupt your girlfriend to have sex with other guys. But honestly without opening up to her, for example you go shopping for more and more revealing clothes and leaving gaps for a friend to flirt with her.

A very good idea...
 
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I don't have the skills to create a game, but I do have a clear view on how I would create it.

You are a young guy, who started work or owns a restaurant.
Your girlfriend has a personality type that you choose at the beginning of the game, innocent, confident, etc.
You for some reason feel like seeing her with another guy, sexually or romantically, or both.
You have to work to buy a wedding ring to ask for her hand and to buy an apartment for you. In the middle of that you have to gradually corrupt your girlfriend, both to open up to you and to your fetish. But you can't hurt her feelings, and so keep her still in love with you.
As it would be a sandbox, it would be good for you to be able to influence your girlfriend to become dominant, submissive, slut or conservative in public but a whore that jumps over the fence.
I would also like the game to have a minigame where you, as a voyeur, can spie your girlfriend in your act with other guys. And it would be great to see in the world the reaction of other people about her and you.
 

rgnar62

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I don't have the skills to create a game, but I do have a clear view on how I would create it.

You are a young guy, who started work or owns a restaurant.
Your girlfriend has a personality type that you choose at the beginning of the game, innocent, confident, etc.
You for some reason feel like seeing her with another guy, sexually or romantically, or both.
You have to work to buy a wedding ring to ask for her hand and to buy an apartment for you. In the middle of that you have to gradually corrupt your girlfriend, both to open up to you and to your fetish. But you can't hurt her feelings, and so keep her still in love with you.
As it would be a sandbox, it would be good for you to be able to influence your girlfriend to become dominant, submissive, slut or conservative in public but a whore that jumps over the fence.
I would also like the game to have a minigame where you, as a voyeur, can spie your girlfriend in your act with other guys. And it would be great to see in the world the reaction of other people about her and you.
woow.... you sure have good tastes man! That's typically what I would like to play!
(Could be fun to pimp her for money with customers ;) )
 
Apr 19, 2018
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woow.... you sure have good tastes man! That's typically what I would like to play!
(Could be fun to pimp her for money with customers ;) )
It would be really good!
And it would be interesting, too, if you had to meet the other guys you want to flirt with your girlfriend. Discover his fetishes and set up dates with her, whether you ask her to accompany you on a social date with them or help them to get better flirt with her.
I would also like you to have a male friend or a female friend that you talk to and help you corrupt her. Maybe even her sister hating you for some reason ends up setting up a date with her friend and your girlfriend, nothing sexual, but she realizes that you like it and ends up helping you.
I wouldn't even need a lot of visuals, maybe just a dress system for your girlfriend like in Witch Trainer Silver. And the game being very focused on reading and making choices.
 

EdenGenesis

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To be honest, I'm not a big fan of NTR, I've played several NTR games for the story and not for the fun of it.

I liked the game "OneNightワイフ♪ 製品版" because at the end you can either forgive your wife or punish her... it's really rare to do that in a game and I must salute the creator for coming up with an original idea and I wish it was done more often.

In Dark Hero Party, for example, I'd have liked to see the childhood girlfriend who succumbed to the villain see a crystal that shows past scenes (in the game) that the MC hasn't been seeing other girls and that he's always been honest and faithful, so that she could regret her behavior. Well, depending on the ending chosen, contrary to what a member wrote above, it is possible for the MC to have a sexual relationship with the dragoness transformed into the girl who helped him take his revenge.

I really like the vengeance aspect, which is a never-ending release, and the Koreans are very good at showing scenes of extreme vengeance, and I would have loved to see Korean Eroge to see how they would handle the subject compared to the Japanese.

Of course, lots of eroge are also created by Chinese and other nationalities, like the creators of "Fleeting iris", which is one of the few eroge I like.

I'd like to create games with sex scenes, but not exclusively porn games. I'm thinking in particular of the GoT series, which contains quite a few risqué scenes, yet deals with a serious and dramatic subject.

I don't like NTR or other over-dramatic eroge games when they're linear... on the other hand, I don't mind when they have several possible endings, including positive and negative ones for the MC.
 

EdenGenesis

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NTR isn't my favorite genre, but since were all on the topic, three thing really piss me off with "NTR"

1. The story of "Oh here is my <insert pre-exsisting platonic relationship> friend or whatever, and by virtue of the fact I like said friend (Or the troll logic of being first to harbor such feelings) this is now NTR. No. It's not. That's not NTR, that's the character missing their chance.

2. Oh wow. Your dick is sooo much big than my husbands/boyfriends and this fact alone is all I need to NTR. Very seldom have I seen the reason be "My husband is an asshole and so I seek love with someone whom cares" or something similar.

3. The absolutely retarded and blind MC/Cucked. Like in President Yukino. "The male MC sees her face(uncensored) and birthmark on her breast quite clearly but nope. Never considers it's her until SO MUCH LATER after seeing several pics online. At least in the medieval one there is an excuse of "I wasn't there and digital pics/vids don't exist".

Just wanted to add my own little rant and take. When done right, NTR can be entertaining.
I agree with most of what you wrote.

Earlier I played an NTR where a knight feared by all must investigate ruins, and before leaving on a mission, she sleeps with her husband and once on mission, she ends up with one of the soldiers to check each ruin detects that they are both of the opposite sex and very beautiful and transports them to a dungeon created by a mad mage who wants to collect sexual data and they must have sex in order to leave the dungeon.

Naturally, at first the married knight looks for a way out, while the male knight accompanying her joins forces with the mage to corrupt her behind her back.
In the end, when she is reunited with her husband, she's not sexually satisfied and has to choose between going back to bed or making a cuckold of her husband, who has a smaller cock than the other knight and can't last long in bed. I was just thinking about your remark on this subject when I finished the game.

Well, I decided that she'd go back to bed with her husband, but I'd have loved it if she'd found out that this fucking knight had led her on and that every night he planned with the mage what he'd do tomorrow to humiliate her and fuck her while she was sleeping because she was so tired of having been fucked by the knight most of the time. (He ejaculated so much inside her that in the end, I thought she'd get pregnant but she didn't from what I saw)

What a bogus story, like most NTR games, and it's a real shame, because there are ways of doing really interesting things with this genre!
 
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Ninjaperv

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My favorite NTR/NTS game is The Ruins of Luxoria, where the player character has to build a relationship with the female character then when you've progressed enough to have sex you have this wild option to have a complete stranger deflower her and join your party. He's better at sex than you and you can hand her over to him for sex training because of a plot reason. Then you can push and volunteer her to have sex with other people despite her reluctance. The only downside is that she becomes a complete nympho late game which is mainly for a story reason, it was hotter forcing her to sleep with other men and then watching as they knocked her up or dominated her even though she was reluctant. A great addition would have been to join in on some scenes as well. The cons are that the game reuses a LOT of assets, so you'll get the same poses and pictures for different scenarios.
 
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Xeline

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I guess it depend on who the main character is. I'm not too interested in being an observer, but if I can play the girl who is going through the literal hell then I'm all about it. I don't really care about gender/sex variances.
 

EdenGenesis

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I guess it depend on who the main character is. I'm not too interested in being an observer, but if I can play the girl who is going through the literal hell then I'm all about it. I don't really care about gender/sex variances.
If this is your case, then you're going to love the game "OneNightワイフ♪ 製品版" as you play the role of the cuckolded husband.

In this game, the husband and wife love each other but disagree about having children.

His wife, on the other hand, wants to have sex to satisfy her secret pleasure, which she doesn't dare admit to her husband for fear of his reaction.

As a result, she refuses to have sex with him because she doesn't want to get pregnant.

In the evening, she sneaks off to a club and her husband goes looking for her when he discovers she's left during the night and sees her enter a dubious club.

On entering, he asks where his wife is, and will meet women who are cuckolding their BFs or husbands, and will have the opportunity to have sex with them and even invite them outside the club.

When he meets men, he'll be able to listen to what they've done to your wife, triggering a scene that recalls the experience.

Towards the end of the game, you'll finally find your wife, who doesn't recognize you and agrees to have sex with you on condition that you wear condom (she asks all men to do this, except for sodomy).

During this experiment, she won't recognize her husband and will say that his body is more muscular than her husband's and that his dick is bigger (even though he is her husband lol).

During sex, the condom will break and you'll have the choice of confessing or saying nothing.

Either way, she'll realize it and panic, but if you confess, she'll find out you're her husband... if you go on without telling her, she won't know and you'll play the game of the lover with whom she's had a child.

That same evening, she'll insist on having sex with her husband so that if she falls pregnant, he won't suspect her, especially as she's always refused to have a child without explaining why.
(The husband, aware of the situation, plays along and sends her a message to force her to go back to the club in order to humiliate her even more and blackmail her).

He continues to make her believe that he'll report her to her husband if she doesn't come, and she doesn't want him to know that the child isn't his, so she reluctantly plays along.

She only discovers it's the husband after a while, and apologizes while he lectures her.

Then she never goes back to the club, and at home, she keeps saying sorry when spoken to.

At the same time, she can continue to be cuckolded by other women.

Frankly, it would be nice if this game were updated with more content, because the idea is really excellent and it's rare to be able to take revenge on your indifferent wife in this kind of game.

One of the women wants to leave her husband for the MC, but he tells her he can't divorce his wife, without explaining why...

It would be great if he punished her by leaving her with another... but then again, I don't know if it would be punishment because she could easily find another guy from the club because they were all crazy about her...

I must say, his wife is really beautiful!
 

EdenGenesis

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Yes, but I also said I typically don't care unless I can play as the girl.
Well, there are not so many games where you can play a girl.

My favorite game which include many many genre is "Eve of the end - Chapter of Shadows".
This is certainly one of the best Eroge I ever played in my whole life.

You can several characters in this game either female and male. Also there are some form of NTR in it.
 

EdenGenesis

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In the visual novels from the "Anim" circle, which has published a significant number of NTR (Netorare) visual novels, players are given the opportunity to experience the story from the perspectives of key characters, typically the husband, boyfriend, childhood friend, and the girl who is either the victim or the instigator of the NTR events.

It's notable that these games often share a similar storyline, and the girl's behavior serves as a pretext to initiate NTR events. These female characters are portrayed as sometimes weak and torn between various emotions. They frequently choose the least reasonable course of action, seemingly oblivious to the harm it may cause to those around them.

Nevertheless, I still find it intriguing to read the characters' points of view to understand how the scene is experienced from the perspective of the victim or the female character.

It is strongly recommended to start the adventure from the girl's point of view; otherwise, you might miss the majority of CGs (computer graphics) in this genre of games.

It's surprising to observe that it's never the women who are the victims in this type of game. By this, I mean that it's often the man who suffers, not the other way around. Even if the female characters may experience remorse at times, these feelings quickly fade as experiences become routine. They become entangled in an irreversible cycle until reality confronts them head-on.