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Blue screens with games

D9074

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Does anyone else get blue screens on their laptop after downloading these games? I constantly have blue screens and im wondering if its connected to downloading these games and if there is any fixes?
 

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Very unlikely. Blue screens are usually a hardware issue, in rare cases a driver issue. Not something that happens because of a porn game you downloaded from the internet.
 
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Maybe its just bad luck, My old laptop started doing it after i got games on here and then this one which is not even a year old has had the same problem. I tried to delete everything and restore but it keeps happening. I just dont know how to fix it. I have been thinking about taking it back and getting it fixed or a new one on warranty but need to make sure its not the games and just happens again.
 

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can you take a screenshot of the blue screen of death next time it comes

not all blue screens are hardware related some are from software as well
 

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can you take a screenshot of the blue screen of death next time it comes

not all blue screens are hardware related some are from software as well




these 2 happen multiple times... and the 1 below i have only seen once




I have updated my drivers with AVG driver updater and i have replaced the RAM.. its still doing it
I just dont know wtf to do about it.. On lenovo app i have done the hardware scan to find faults and they all pass.
 

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KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED = Hardware incompatibility, Faulty device driver or system service


IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL = kernel-mode device drivers that use improper addresses



DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION = faulty driver code

try to uninstall all drivers and reinstall them

it might not be hardware problem it's about 75% software and 25% hardware
 

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KMODE_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED = Hardware incompatibility, Faulty device driver or system service


IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL = kernel-mode device drivers that use improper addresses



DPC_WATCHDOG_VIOLATION = faulty driver code

try to uninstall all drivers and reinstall them

it might not be hardware problem it's about 75% software and 25% hardware

i did another fresh install of windows, shouldnt that take away all of the old drivers? plus idk how to even uninstall all drivers and then find the right ones.
 

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i did another fresh install of windows, shouldnt that take away all of the old drivers? plus idk how to even uninstall all drivers and then find the right ones.
only you know what driver that you have installed on your laptop
a fresh install of window should fix most of the problem

but it also could be drivers from

video card
Ethernet card
sound card
keyboard
mouse
external hard drive
usb flash drive
usb headphones
use game controller

lenovo should have most of the drivers for your laptop

without more info we can't really help

next time there is a blue screen when you back into windows go right into event viewer and select windows log and then select system

but also keep an eye on the time when the blue screen appears so you what time it crashed you be looking these icon X ! i
and look at the EventId
 

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only you know what driver that you have installed on your laptop
a fresh install of window should fix most of the problem

but it also could be drivers from

video card
Ethernet card
sound card
keyboard
mouse
external hard drive
usb flash drive
usb headphones
use game controller

lenovo should have most of the drivers for your laptop

without more info we can't really help

next time there is a blue screen when you back into windows go right into event viewer and select windows log and then select system

but also keep an eye on the time when the blue screen appears so you what time it crashed you be looking these icon X ! i
and look at the EventId

2 seconds before the last one it was doing this, some kernal thing its always linked to that. the bit before said local service then it went network service then blue screen.



\??\C:\WINDOWS\ServiceProfiles\NetworkService\NTUSER.DAT
 

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this was in the log on the whocrashed app


Error:
file path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product:
company:
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that Microsoft Windows or a kernel-mode driver accessed paged memory at DISPATCH_LEVEL or above. This is a software bug.
 

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this was in the log on the whocrashed app


Error:
file path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product:
company:
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that Microsoft Windows or a kernel-mode driver accessed paged memory at DISPATCH_LEVEL or above. This is a software bug.
all you can do then is to report this to microsoft and hope for the best you might get better help there
 

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this was in the log on the whocrashed app


Error:
file path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
product:
company:
description: NT Kernel & System
Bug check description: This indicates that Microsoft Windows or a kernel-mode driver accessed paged memory at DISPATCH_LEVEL or above. This is a software bug.
Theoretically reinstalling windows should solve this problem, but it's kind of an extreme solution. If you go to get it fixed that's what they're probably gonna do first.

First of all, does it happen only with games from here or with any game??
If they are games from here, do they use a specific engine (renpy, unity etc), also does it happen with all the games from here or just with some of them?

Since this is happening with two laptops, is there any common software between them? Maybe the avg trash or something?

Lastly, and this is a very early 2000s solution to the irq_not_less_or_equal problem, go to the bios and restore its settings to default.
 

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Theoretically reinstalling windows should solve this problem, but it's kind of an extreme solution. If you go to get it fixed that's what they're probably gonna do first.

First of all, does it happen only with games from here or with any game??
If they are games from here, do they use a specific engine (renpy, unity etc), also does it happen with all the games from here or just with some of them?

Since this is happening with two laptops, is there any common software between them? Maybe the avg trash or something?

Lastly, and this is a very early 2000s solution to the irq_not_less_or_equal problem, go to the bios and restore its settings to default.

this doesnt just happen with games, it happens all the time. Sometimes it will go hours with no crashes and sometimes it will be up to 10 in a hour.. its crazy tbh. I have scanned my laptop on lenovo and everything passes, ive reinstalled windows and reset my laptop and downloaded by device and cloud and still the same.

i play renpy games 90% of the time and it doesnt happen on every game i play either but most of the times it will crash at least once.

the first laptop was very old and i only started to blue screen once i started playing the games tbh, but i downloaded them from somewhere else until i found this site. idk what common software is between them. this time i went to update drivers with lenovos one but none needed to be downloaded so im guessing that everything stayed from before.. if its a driver issue idk where to begin with uninstalling to try and fix.
 

Niv-Mizzet the Firemind

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this doesnt just happen with games, it happens all the time. Sometimes it will go hours with no crashes and sometimes it will be up to 10 in a hour.. its crazy tbh. I have scanned my laptop on lenovo and everything passes, ive reinstalled windows and reset my laptop and downloaded by device and cloud and still the same.
It's really fucking hard to use the site right now because it constantly throws maintenance errors.

If you've reinstalled windows however many times and it keeps happening randomly, send it back if it's covered by warranty and tell them to go fuck themselves. If you do, backup your files first, they're gonna format it.

If it isn't covered by warranty, has the iso files necessary and a tool to make an istallation usb. Make the usb, backup your files, format your disk and reinstall windows from scratch, instructions . After that, download the drivers for your laptop from lenovo's support, not a third party utility.
 

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this doesnt just happen with games, it happens all the time. Sometimes it will go hours with no crashes and sometimes it will be up to 10 in a hour.. its crazy tbh. I have scanned my laptop on lenovo and everything passes, ive reinstalled windows and reset my laptop and downloaded by device and cloud and still the same.
When you say you scanned the laptop, what do you mean ? You tested the component, of did of software scan ?

There's a constant with the errors you get, they are all directly related to Windows Kernel, so the real core of the OS. The "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" is related to the hardware interruptions (basically it's the communication channel with the hardware). Therefore it's rarely a basic driver error. It's not the driver that failed to understand something, but the hardware that failed to send something understandable at low level. In the past it could happen that it was Windows' fault (the low level drivers failing to understand), but it's rare nowadays and most of the time it express a RAM error.
This would explain the behavior you describe. Reinstalling don't solve the problem because it's a hardware issue, but like it's related to the RAM, it will only happen when the faulty bank is addressed, therefore after some time of use ; you need to fill the RAM with the different software, have some process moved to another location, and so on, before the problem affect Windows.

Try to do a to see what it say.
 

D9074

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It's really fucking hard to use the site right now because it constantly throws maintenance errors.

If you've reinstalled windows however many times and it keeps happening randomly, send it back if it's covered by warranty and tell them to go fuck themselves. If you do, backup your files first, they're gonna format it.

If it isn't covered by warranty, has the iso files necessary and a tool to make an istallation usb. Make the usb, backup your files, format your disk and reinstall windows from scratch, instructions . After that, download the drivers for your laptop from lenovo's support, not a third party utility.
lol that was good timing, last night i went full retard and went on driver verifier because of something i read but it went wrong... i ended up getting completely fucked and getting critical error and couldnt even reset so i went to that site today and installed with usb. Thing is my old windows 11 is still on the system somewhere so idk if i should reset again fully so it all goes off.
 

D9074

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When you say you scanned the laptop, what do you mean ? You tested the component, of did of software scan ?

There's a constant with the errors you get, they are all directly related to Windows Kernel, so the real core of the OS. The "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" is related to the hardware interruptions (basically it's the communication channel with the hardware). Therefore it's rarely a basic driver error. It's not the driver that failed to understand something, but the hardware that failed to send something understandable at low level. In the past it could happen that it was Windows' fault (the low level drivers failing to understand), but it's rare nowadays and most of the time it express a RAM error.
This would explain the behavior you describe. Reinstalling don't solve the problem because it's a hardware issue, but like it's related to the RAM, it will only happen when the faulty bank is addressed, therefore after some time of use ; you need to fill the RAM with the different software, have some process moved to another location, and so on, before the problem affect Windows.

Try to do a to see what it say.
I thought this exact thing about ram, its why i bought a new 8gb ram but i installed it in the same slot that the old one was in and still get the same thing happen. Do you think i should move it to the other slot or put the old one in with it so i have 16?

lenovo has a app and on there it lets you scan your hardware to see if there is any faults is what i mean. so it scans your cpu, gpu, ram, all of that and lets you know if there is faults.. but idk how much i really trust that. when i did windows memory diagnostic it came back that there was no faults.. but idk i have tried both drivers and ram and still no change. only thing i have not done is switch to the other ram slot. you are right tho every single error goes to the kernal thing. i think before i was getting more errors, different errors, but after i
 

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so this is from their website but am i retarded or something why does it say there is no fan?