Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 V1 Beta] [WillTylor]

[fajiker145]

People will hate me for saying this, but one of the main reasons why the dev still isn't able to work on this full time is because of the NTR stuff. I personally don't care, but there are a lot of people that never even gave this a chance because they saw that tag. It's sad because it's not even a big part of the game and it's very easily avoidable, but I think that is hurting the game's growth.

Its weird, Ive seen you always telling devs that putting ntr is ok as long as its optional, but you are right here at least.
When ntr is not the focus of the game, it only damages it. The constant anti vs pro ntr fights, the small updates + several months of waiting because they are divided between the two contents, the ntr content bleeding out due to bugs, the whole vibe of the game changing...it really isnt worth it.
I find myself giving up in most "avoidable ntr games" as they seem like a waste of time now, everytime I see a new one I just add it to ignore. If this one had come out recently it would be there as well, I am only around because I already invested time in it, but with the gatekeeping of content now seems like it is another one thats just isnt worth it anymore.

 

[Dogorti]

People will hate me for saying this, but one of the main reasons why the dev still isn't able to work on this full time is because of the NTR stuff. I personally don't care, but there are a lot of people that never even gave this a chance because they saw that tag. It's sad because it's not even a big part of the game and it's very easily avoidable, but I think that is hurting the game's growth.

There are games with ntr tag and vanilla content that do very well on Patreon.... I simply believe that the models are not for everyone and that's it.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Its weird, Ive seen you always telling devs that putting ntr is ok as long as its optional, but you are right here at least.
When ntr is not the focus of the game, it only damages it. The constant anti vs pro ntr fights, the small updates + several months of waiting because they are divided between the two contents, the ntr content bleeding out due to bugs, the whole vibe of the game changing...it really isnt worth it.
I find myself giving up in most "avoidable ntr games" as they seem like a waste of time now, everytime I see a new one I just add it to ignore. If this one had come out recently it would be there as well, I am only around because I already invested time in it, but with the gatekeeping of content now seems like it is another one thats just isnt worth it anymore.

Yea, I don't like NTR but if the dev wants to add some optional stuff for the people that like it, I don't seen an issue. But I've also said that for most vanilla/harem fans even if the NTR is avoidable, they will most likely not give a game a chance if they see that tag. You probably didn't see those comments because the mods almost always end up deleting my comments when I talk about this topic

 

[Mr. Chatty]

Its weird, Ive seen you always telling devs that putting ntr is ok as long as its optional, but you are right here at least.
When ntr is not the focus of the game, it only damages it. The constant anti vs pro ntr fights, the small updates + several months of waiting because they are divided between the two contents, the ntr content bleeding out due to bugs, the whole vibe of the game changing...it really isnt worth it.
I find myself giving up in most "avoidable ntr games" as they seem like a waste of time now, everytime I see a new one I just add it to ignore. If this one had come out recently it would be there as well, I am only around because I already invested time in it, but with the gatekeeping of content now seems like it is another one thats just isnt worth it anymore.

you don't have to manually ignore ntr games, you can just make bookmark/shortcut after excluding all tags you don't like, like i have excluded five tags

netorare, no sexual content, text based, real porn, censored, rpgm

makes filtering games to your liking real easy.

 

[duiguinho6798]

Did the button to disable and activate the NTR disappear?

 

[Green_Banana]

Not working on joiplay meh

 

[PornSucks2011]

People will hate me for saying this, but one of the main reasons why the dev still isn't able to work on this full time is because of the NTR stuff. I personally don't care, but there are a lot of people that never even gave this a chance because they saw that tag. It's sad because it's not even a big part of the game and it's very easily avoidable, but I think that is hurting the game's growth.

Ok, except for your personal dislike for NTR, what are you basing this on? Do you have any stats that say NTR games do worse? How many creators do you actually support?

 

[bowman2432]

a question . this game currently is at v0.09 so does it mean it will take about a century to finally complete ??

 

[joss joss]

When you click on the phone icon in the game, does it say "Loyalty Route" in the upper left of the phone screen? This can be toggled, even if you're wholly on one path or the other. Maybe you accidentally toggled it (by clicking on it) and the game put you in the NTR route?

I am on the path of loyalty, without a doubt. but strenif may be right, he answers me later. That is why I asked to remain faithful until today, to be able to continue without this error. If anyone has the loyalty save file to date I would appreciate it.

 

[joss joss]

Can you upload the loyalty save file up to v0.09 V1 Beta? Thank you very much... and thanks to the people who responded to me. A hug.

 

[Badjourasmix]

Ok, except for your personal dislike for NTR, what are you basing this on? Do you have any stats that say NTR games do worse? How many creators do you actually support?

It's all based of what I've see over the years on this forum. I dislike NTR but I will still play the game, if it is avoidable. That is not the case for most people that don't like NTR. You still have a good number of devs that are able to work on their games full time, but from what I have observed it seems like the growth ceiling for these gsmes is a lot lower. But as I said and you pointed out, I am not a fan of NTR so my opinion is a little biased.

There are games with ntr tag and vanilla content that do very well on Patreon.... I simply believe that the models are not for everyone and that's it.

I don't know man, I think a lot of people would be into the models since they are very petite and there is a huge audience for it.

 

[Mr. Chatty]

It's all based of what I've see over the years on this forum. I dislike NTR but I will still play the game, if it is avoidable. That is not the case for most people that don't like NTR. You still have a good number of devs that are able to work on their games full time, but from what I have observed it seems like the growth ceiling for these gsmes is a lot lower. But as I said and you pointed out, I am not a fan of NTR so my opinion is a little biased.

I second this, while there are some devs with "enough" financial support, there aren't even a tiny few examples of devs who are crossing the more than "enough" mark, and even the ones that are in this category, they are because they have some of the vanilla players supporting them althought not many of course.

I forgot to mention this before but the problem with optional ntr games for vanilla players is that, mostly these games end up with ntr players as majority fanbase so vanilla fans like me and you often feel like 3rd wheels, so more often than not vanilla fans just leave those games and its like a paradox which keeps growing with the developement of those game.

 

[Heaits]

I really hope the Mandy content will be surprising, she get away so many times!

 

[PornSucks2011]

It's all based of what I've see over the years on this forum. I dislike NTR but I will still play the game, if it is avoidable. That is not the case for most people that don't like NTR. You still have a good number of devs that are able to work on their games full time, but from what I have observed it seems like the growth ceiling for these gsmes is a lot lower. But as I said and you pointed out, I am not a fan of NTR so my opinion is a little biased.

I would argue that the amount of people that support creators here is minimal, since it is a piracy forum, while the amount of whiners is insanely high. Getting enough support to go full time is hard for anyone, regardless of kinks. This games development has been really slow too, its been now 5 years i think? and only now do we start to see some more content (in the last two updates basically).

I mean Summertime Saga still has insane support, but its been a scam for the past 2 years. If this forum was the main source of income that game would have died ages ago.

 

[xert13]

I second this, while there are some devs with "enough" financial support, there aren't even a tiny few examples of devs who are crossing the more than "enough" mark, and even the ones that are in this category, they are because they have some of the vanilla players supporting them althought not many of course.

I forgot to mention this before but the problem with optional ntr games for vanilla players is that, mostly these games end up with ntr players as majority fanbase so vanilla fans like me and you often feel like 3rd wheels, so more often than not vanilla fans just leave those games and its like a paradox which keeps growing with the developement of those game.

You seem to imply that NTR lovers don’t support Devs that include NTR. Not true. Perhaps, you are unaware since NTR is not your preference, but in my experience the NTR fan community is very supportive. I support several Devs that focus on NTR or have NTR content. I note many of these same supporters. I use F95 to review and filter games. If I find a game I really like I will support them and usually download updates directly from the creator. I imagine many others do so as well. Regardless, no one is going to get rich on these games.

I honestly don’t get the running battle about NTR on these forums. Almost always within the first 10 posts about a new game someone asks if NTR is avoidable. It’s as if their whole day is ruined if they run across any scene that hints of NTR. There has been plenty of fetishes that I do not like that pop up in games. You skip the scene and move on. I think some internalize the MC as themselves. Thus, if subject to NTR, they take it personally. To each their own, but I view it like a movie. I may control the MC’s choices, but the MC is a character, not me. I digress, but find the whole psychological aspect of it fascinating.

 

[PornSucks2011]

You seem to imply that NTR lovers don’t support Devs that include NTR. Not true. Perhaps, you are unaware since NTR is not your preference, but in my experience the NTR fan community is very supportive. I support several Devs that focus on NTR or have NTR content. I note many of these same supporters. I use F95 to review and filter games. If I find a game I really like I will support them and usually download updates directly from the creator. I imagine many others do so as well. Regardless, no one is going to get rich on these games.

I honestly don’t get the running battle about NTR on these forums. Almost always within the first 10 posts about a new game someone asks if NTR is avoidable. It’s as if their whole day is ruined if they run across any scene that hints of NTR. There has been plenty of fetishes that I do not like that pop up in games. You skip the scene and move on. I think some internalize the MC as themselves. Thus, if subject to NTR, they take it personally. To each their own, but I view it like a movie. I may control the MC’s choices, but the MC is a character, not me. I digress, but find the whole psychological aspect of it fascinating.

I'm not even a fan of NTR, i just feel like games that have multiple male sexual partners offer more variety. I don't care if its NTR, swinging, sharing whatever. I guess people self insert and then relive their trauma of having their father take their mother all over again...
But seriously, i find it funny how incest is fine, but another man!? Thats where we draw the line.

 

[TommyTuba]

Is there now a gallery?

Yes

 

[jkj54]

Any .9 patchnotes?

Just finished the night fight part the aunt is sleeping on the couch is there anything after this?

 

[jdidemdirty]

i would love for there to be more aunt content but the class project end or does it just keep going?

 

[strenif]

i would love for there to be more aunt content but the class project end or does it just keep going?

Goto class Friday morning to end the election.