As I predicted. Gay men are the least likely to play as a female protagonist.
Female Protagonist game lovers-Are you.....?
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I never said that... I said that people that play those games don't self-insert, simple as that.
I can play a game about a weak shota that is milked by his mom without self-inserting into either character, I don't want to be either a dumb kid or a perv mother but the scene can be hot and immersive regardless...
What I mean is, do you like just to see the woman's perspective, or to choose that perspective?
Because if it's just seeing the perspective, there would be no need to play video games, just watching a movie would be enough.
What I say and what I have seen in the threads of games with female protagonists is that the reason why they like this kind of games is not only to see the perspective, it is the power to choose that perspective.
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This concept is beyond comprehension to many people on this site. No amount of logic can change that.
I never said that people like you don't exist, I just said that the vast majority of people like to play video games to feel involved with them because of the interaction that video games bring.
the way you tell me for me there is no difference in the way you play video games and watch a movie, for me the fun of video games is to have that interaction.
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As I am playing a game, I have the power to choose the perspective or, some options that are simply not possible in a book or a movie. I am the spectator of her life in a voyeuristic manner with the power to create situations that would be beneficial for me.
That's what I mean, you don't play video games for the sake of it, you play them for their interaction,
as you say here, for me that is a way to insert yourself as a god, you have the power to choose the situation and that's the fun, you are not a simple spectator like a movie, you are the one who makes things happen because you want them to happen.
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Honestly it is amazing how hard it is for you to grasp a simple concept like this...
People that don't self-insert just don't fantasize about being one of the game characters, that just sounds like something a teenager does when watching shounen and thinking that he is a superhero.
When you play zelda you control Link, you aren't yourself. Same with Mario, and possibly every other game that has a defined protagonist and was clearly not intented for people to self-insert or roleplay.
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Just in general.
Any game, adult games that is, i am trying to slip in to the main character. There are a lot of games where this just does not work for me.
So these games are toast. Most male centered games fall into that for me. I don't want to see that guy.
If its female, even this is more complicated because i do not like all female models, i do like to see her. Its like a peepshow of sorts.
We get hot by watching. Man, we are perverted.
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Thats why Bethesda games are so great. You create yourself, more or less, and you being that character. I love myself being abused by some fucking Raiders. Mm...
Thats why i love the mod Raiders Pet. And with some bondage clothing, the party can get started. Love the iron hood.
it seems that you basically ignore almost everything I have said.
when i play mario, i control mario when i tell him to jump, he jumps at that moment he could say that I am mario, or that I am someone controlling mario (again a god), the same with link and with every video game out there.
that's the fun of video games, the interaction, if not for that I would watch movies.
Also the way you say it seems hypocritical of you, you tell me that when you play video games you don't want to be anything so you just watch the story.
But then what was the point of saying that only lesbians enjoy lesbian games and that if a man does it is because he is not.
If he doesn't insert himself anywhere, he's just there like you, watching an interaction that he enjoys.
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But you realize that this isn't self-insertion? That's my point, because not all games are made for self insertion, in fact most aren't.
I mean, who would even want to self-insert as mario when he is a literal cuck trying to rescue peach while bowser bangs her to oblivion?
My point is that it is still a form of insertion, as I was told above, they see themselves as a voyeuristic viewer with the power to choose interactions that benefit him.
To me that's still insertion, you insert yourself as a god who does whatever he wants in the video game and everything happens because he wants it to happen.
you don't necessarily have to insert yourself as the protagonist, that's my point, you can insert yourself as the watcher.
It would have been also good if you had answered me the other thing because for me you contradict yourself.
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I see the problem, you just don't know what words mean. If I asked anyone but you they'd tell me that Mass Effect is the game about self-insertion and Skyrim is the game about immersion. I guaran-fucking-tee it.
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So a game where you play as fix-named commander Shepard, that follows through a linear story to reach the exact same 3 endings is a game about "you"?
While a bethesda game where you can literally do anything from turning into a werewolf or vampire has a fixed and immersive protagonist somehow?
Yeah makes sense...
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As opposed to a fix-named Dragonborn, yes.
Judging from the way you edited this in after the fact, I can see you are aware that that is the only way you are able to INSERT yourSELF into the story aside from picking a side in the civil war. Seems there's no real need to argue.
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You are talking about the main story only... That is the least important element in every bethesda game. They are 95% side quests and exploration so you do whatever "you" feel like doing. Not to mention getting a house, marrying, and much more, none of which are required for the main quest.
While games like mass effect you have zero say, either you continue the main quest or stop playing... All you really choose is which character to romance but that again is part of the main quest.
Simply to answer this, I say that it all depends on the player, shepard also has the intention that people can self-insert, that' s why you can choose their appearance, history, sex, sexuality, class, weapons, partner and choose some facets of their personality.
skyrim on the other hand is also made to give a character like this but without personality in search of more immersion for the player to feel more identified.
in practice i have seen more people insert themselves in shepard than with the dragonborn, that's why the anger with the mass effect 3 ending because many people can't stop seeing themselves as shepard and that's why they make mods like the happy ending.
while i have seen more people take skyrim as a God-like insertion, the perfect example is with yester who uses the game to create his fantasies with mods and a female character.
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Well, this is literally what self-insertion means, you just have to adjust your understanding of it now.
It is when a story gives you a neutral character that is supposed to be "you". Many anime shows are like that, they tend to have a very generic looking and neutral protagonist for self-inserters.
And that is not the case for most female protag games, they always try to give you an original, well defined and good looking character instead of giving you a generic one for self insertion like so many male protagonist games do...