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And this implies coming back to Glamour and "abandon" BB after the next release.
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He was not the first who almost got deleted. I don't know what was he thinking. He had plenty of time to "patreonise" the game.
He will lose my 40 bucks for sure...
And i know for certain that he will lose at least 75% of his income now..
IF he is smart he will go the same route as some other Devs at this point.
Re-organize his Patreon 100% to patreon with no mention of Big Brother whatsoever..
And communicate on Discord and websites like these that BB will only get Discord releases in the future.. (as a temporary solution of course)
But as mentioned before..
DS is already with his head with Glamour, i was hoping that this game would continu for the coming months..
But i'm sure now that this is going to be the last release with a lot of open storylines..
And in that case..
Goobye pledge
..Ps..
Patreon is cracking down hard......
One after another is going down
Well this sucks, heres hoping some passionate fan or mod maker can hopefully take the game and run with it. Already plenty of mods available.... Im sure money will win out in the end. If DS makes most of his money from this project and the new one tanks, he'll go back to this........maybe.
- Aug 25, 2017
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- Aug 25, 2017
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Well, it's your right to support or to not supportHe will lose my 40 bucks for sure...
And i know for certain that he will lose at least 75% of his income now..
IF he is smart he will go the same route as some other Devs at this point.
Re-organize his Patreon 100% to patreon with no mention of Big Brother whatsoever..
And communicate on Discord and websites like these that BB will only get Discord releases in the future..
But as mentioned before..
DS is already with his head with Glamour, i was hoping that this game would continu for the coming months..
But i'm sure now that this is going to be the last release with a lot of open storylines..
And in that case..
Goobye pledge
Ps..
Patreon is cracking down hard......
One after another is going down
Apparently, Patreon is againts BB. I can try to play shady with them, but I'm unsure in this.
- Aug 18, 2017
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Patreon is against incest on their platform, that's all
they might be more against BB because it is perceived like a notorious incest game, but patreon don't give a fuck about what happens out of their platform, they can't stop modders from relating the characters, that's why the games on lewd patcher are still fine
just make sure NO ONE is related in the official release, and make one of two, or wait for modders to restore incest, or maybe you could have an unfortunate acident and a hacker steal a patch that restore the incest from you and post it on lewd patcher. Wink Wink
right now you don't really have much of a choice, you will take a enormous hit either by being banned by patreon or by abandoning BB. The only way to keep things more or less as they were is to modify the game as I said.
they might be more against BB because it is perceived like a notorious incest game, but patreon don't give a fuck about what happens out of their platform, they can't stop modders from relating the characters, that's why the games on lewd patcher are still fine
just make sure NO ONE is related in the official release, and make one of two, or wait for modders to restore incest, or maybe you could have an unfortunate acident and a hacker steal a patch that restore the incest from you and post it on lewd patcher. Wink Wink
right now you don't really have much of a choice, you will take a enormous hit either by being banned by patreon or by abandoning BB. The only way to keep things more or less as they were is to modify the game as I said.
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@DarkSilver
Though i'm mostly criticizing lately ( in a polite manner of course and i still believe in the potential), i like your recent attitude towards the communty. Informing us, Discord and even releasing the game here (maybe).
Though i'm mostly criticizing lately ( in a polite manner of course and i still believe in the potential), i like your recent attitude towards the communty. Informing us, Discord and even releasing the game here (maybe).
- Aug 25, 2017
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I have no choice about releasing
Next update is almost finished and I can't release it at Patreon anymore. Looks like I don't have much options, right?
- Aug 25, 2017
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DMD was thinking in similar way. I do believe that semi official patches will be banned as well. And Patreon will start to ban games after couple of reports.
@DarkSilver
I haven't pledged nor played in a long time but I have always considered your work to be amazing. (Story I have my own qualms with.) But I would say that it is time you look for an alternative to patreon. They are going full Nazi right now and my own patreon which had nothing to do with incest was reviewed. I closed it because I wasn't doing anything with it but even the mention of erotic games is triggering full blown raids of this stuff.
ps: If grandpa akabur goes down we riot!
I haven't pledged nor played in a long time but I have always considered your work to be amazing. (Story I have my own qualms with.) But I would say that it is time you look for an alternative to patreon. They are going full Nazi right now and my own patreon which had nothing to do with incest was reviewed. I closed it because I wasn't doing anything with it but even the mention of erotic games is triggering full blown raids of this stuff.
ps: If grandpa akabur goes down we riot!
Of courseWell, it's your right to support or to not support
Apparently, Patreon is againts BB. I can try to play shady with them, but I'm unsure in this.
..I have been a Patreon since 0.1 or 0.2(not always the same amount) and would happily continu to do so because it's worth it.
But playing shady with patreon would not be smart in the long run, i agree 100%.
However, for a temporary solution you could clean up you patreon page with only content for Glamour and not releasing BB yourself but through another Person at Discord or a website...
You would have nothing to do with it (officially), and you patreon page would be "clean" ..
And your fans would know(well those with common sense)that BB is not dead.
In the meantime you can find/make a alternative solution for releasing and promoting your games and getting payment and leave Patreon..(Ask help from the other "big" devs on patreon and put you hands together)
Because we all know that this witch hunt of Patreon is not going to stay with this, as soon as they clean up all the incest related topics they will find another topic to clean up untill they cleaned up their entire platform.
Now it's BB, in a couple months it's going to be Glamour
...But of course it's your choice, and your choice only.
But i hope that you don't abandon the fans that supported you from the beginning and all of those that joined in the meantime...
I think that most of us will even accept if you say that Big Brother is going on a break for a couple months untill you can figure it all out..(you will lose some money of course, but a large % will stay loyal).
If you abandon it, well...... It makes sense that people will abandon you to ...
I would make a own Platform if a had the knowledge to do that.
Only thing i can offer is financial help for those who want to create it.
Many grammatical errors sorry..... But combination of typing on a phone with auto-correct on French....And speaking dutch myself.... Well...Shit
- Aug 18, 2017
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well, we can only wait and see, I just think that it would be quite absurd for patreon to ban the patched games, since they can't prove that it was made by the devs, so they wouldn't have any control over it, it's the nature of a PC game, it can be modded to be anything, by anyone
I wouldn't be surprised if they ban games that hide incest behind some code, like the GTA San Andreas hot coffee controversy, but by restoring it through patches that have to be installed on the game folder it should be safe. They can't blame EA games for the mods on The Sims 2, for example
DMD had no such patch, he chose another path
I believe in the same
Adult games deserved a platform like Patreon, with no blocks in searches, with filters like MF, FMF, FF, Incest, Unity, japanese... and so on.
As the creator of the BlackWolfMod let me tell you. Fucking around with a second set of code is not fun. I'm sure in unity that's a much larger pain in the ass than ren'py but right now is a fucking mess. You basically have to write two of every line of dialogue. One of incest and one of non-incest. That means twice the code for scenes that make no sense out side of incest context.
So I guess the only thing that devs can do is start to release separate entire versions under new names completely. If you stay on patreon and they can see that shit just by going into your discord you are definitely going to be banned.
The problem with releasing through f95zone is that if this becomes too popular of a site then patreon will definitely have people look into it and wham! ban hammer comes down anyway.
Maybe some kind hearted...who the fuck am I kidding... Some crazy bastard will set up a patreon like site just for adult stuff and then they will get even more money than patreon themselves. We all know how much money people throw at cams and stuff. If they set up a site that allows them to do it as easily as patreon does I don't see why creators wouldnt use it.
- Aug 18, 2017
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As I said, Patreon can't prove links of the dev with outside websites unless he says so, all you have to do is to not link the site where you will include the patch on patreon, it would be beyond stupid to do it
I don't know if patreon can go after a dev for something that he says on discord, maybe if there is a link of his discord on his patreon, but I'm not sure. The fact is that whoever play those games hardly don't participate of some kind of community that talks about them because there are always doubts and etc, a creator could release the official version on patreon with no trace of incest, "someone" post a patch on lewd patcher, and never mention the patch on patreon page or discord. People will find it somehow
Even more with a hugely popular game like BB
- Aug 25, 2017
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Patreon don't care about who modified the game. They will block you first and you will have to prove your innocent afterwards.
- Apr 27, 2017
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Buckle up people this shit is just gonna get worse as patreon is hiring more human moderators to "clean up" and report "inappropriate" content more easily. I think it's time to move on from patreon's tyrannical rule and find a better alternative if there is no better alternative make one.