Pantisocrat

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Both of you miss the point about Vicky, Max needs to learn how to make drinks and this will open up a lot more content with the family after a few drinks going around the house.
This may be the plan, sure. An NPC isn't required for Max to learn how to mix drinks, though. Someone's birthday coming up is a perfectly good motivation.
 

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There's a reason BB is one of the most successful projects on patreon.
When he dropped romance with Lisa I dropped him of my $40.00 and spent it on another game.
I know of 4 others who drop him to and that is just what I know, there is no telling how many have dropped him for the new ones only giving $1.00.
He has lost money, may have gain patreon's but he lost money.
 

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Since the beginning people patrons and pirates alike have tried to second guess and influence DS.
The genre is in its title so any discussion good or bad needs to take that in account. All characters
outside of the family are additions not mains. So they are fluff for people who want different genres.
Eric was for a while nothing but an antagonist not NTR or to takeover as the MC. Kate was there for the
people who like a little girl on girl action and a bit of sub/dom. Olivia was there get a love interest for Lisa
AKA Alex. The main story line is the family but it would be quite boring if the game only had 5 characters.
And for people who say this is a bad or boring game there are hundreds of other games on this board look
and find one you like. Or just keep tolling this thread. I could care less.
I myself love this game as it is.
 

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When he dropped romance with Lisa I dropped him of my $40.00 and spent it on another game.
I know of 4 others who drop him to and that is just what I know, there is no telling how many have dropped him for the new ones only giving $1.00.
He has lost money, may have gain patreon's but he lost money.
I think you are just blowing smoke. If you have proof then post facts.
 

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Both of you miss the point about Vicky, Max needs to learn how to make drinks and this will open up a lot more content with the family after a few drinks going around the house.
Eve could have been talked into helping Max get mom.
Olivia could have 3-some with Lisa and Max.
As for Olivia's mom she maybe in the same type of job as Kira now and that 3-some would be awesome.

So as you can see this is what should happen or something very close to this and you get more family content.

But no DS has dropped them for now or for ever who knows.
Except none of that should have been necessary. By the time Vicky appears, things had already progressed pretty far with his family. Vicky wasn't meant to speed things up; she was there to slow things down by creating a diversion for the players, and putting another obstacle in the way of the sex. You needed to talk to Vicky. Then there was going to be the bartender or baker training. Then there was probably an update or two of actually working for for Vicky, leading to the seduction. Maybe you'd have sex with Vicky for a while before Lisa would be invited to watch. Maybe Lisa would eventually join in. But Vicky could have been replaced with Max ordering a bartender's kit online and taking some online courses, and the seduction of Lisa could have advanced with actual seduction. More of them talking, and playing sexually, and Lisa slowly becoming that Max was the one, and that the time was very soon.

Same with Eve. She's there to try to distract players from the fact that they're not making progress with Ann and Lisa. Her assistance in seducing Ann shouldn't be needed. DS just needed to stop dragging out the seduction so ridiculously long. Yes, it should be hard to seduce your mother. But it's a game, and there are already so many potential "ins" with Ann that any one of them could be used. It could be that Ann is lonely. It could be that Max is paying all of the bills. It could be she senses him and Lisa developing something, and she offers herself to head that off. Or maybe Max just finds the right words and actions to make her give in. All of these would work for me, and many more. They wouldn't require a new character being introduced, and story arcs over multiple updates.

As for Olivia, I'm not really interested in a threesome with Lisa and anyone else. At least I wasn't. Lisa was going to tbe romantic option, and not the one I'd want to share with anyone, even another female family member. At this point, Lisa could boink the delivery guy, and I'd be kind of "meh" about it. And after her complete relaunch as a character, Olivia is even less interesting than she was before. The dynamic between her and her mother doesn't make her a more interesting character. She doesn't seem as confident as she did before as now she's always paranoid about her mother stealing her boyfriends, and rightfully so. She might as well have been a different character and model rather than keep the Olivia name and face
 

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Both of you miss the point about Vicky, Max needs to learn how to make drinks and this will open up a lot more content with the family after a few drinks going around the house.
Eve could have been talked into helping Max get mom.
Olivia could have 3-some with Lisa and Max.
As for Olivia's mom she maybe in the same type of job as Kira now and that 3-some would be awesome.

So as you can see this is what should happen or something very close to this and you get more family content.

But no DS has dropped them for now or for ever who knows.
You miss the point of my message. I understand that the characters could add something to the relationships in the family, but the problem is other content gets prioritised, because people like that content more than content that continues the storylines with characters outside the family.
 
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I agree with a1fox3 I think DS should have a big update for the other 4 ladies in Maxs life, like maybe Eve could do house calls, maybe Vickey asks Max to work on Friday night and he meets Alice and Kira out there's so much that can be done and I do think after this update with Ann the next update should take a step back from the family. Even though I want an update for both Alice and Kira the other ladies need more love
 
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I think you are just blowing smoke. If you have proof then post facts.
I know that it was that update that made me end my support, although it was only $10. I almost wish I had been giving more at that point so it would have made a bigger impact when I stopped.
 
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His pledges dynamic and constant growthrate of patrons makes it really unlikely to say he's losing money. Regardless of perrsonal opinion he's at his peak right now and will most likely grow even more. Marketing is much more important than actual content and he's already too big and famous to really start losing patrons
 

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I got a feeling that DS is not sure how to progress through the story or where to end it or he has lost his interest in this game. Some say that he just want to milk the donors by giving some kind of a update. I don't want to believe that. But if he continues to give boring and meaningless updates like the previous ones, fans and donors will stop playing and supporting the game. As a result he will be compelled to leave he game unfinished. According to me a finished enjoyable game of 25 version is much better than a boring unfinished game of 40 version. So first DS has to decide and make a detail plan how he wants to go with the story and where to finish it. Then release the upcoming versions.

The previews of v0.13 look very promising. After playing the last few updates I am not rising my expectation high but hope that it would really be a mind-blowing update. If that happens guys keep your hands on the keyboard not on your D***. ;):cool::p
 

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Guys how many days in the game you are?
I remember E fuck Anna on day 4 and marriage proposition come in day 10-11.
I restart 0.9 and now I'm at day 252 still only handjobs from Anna.My guess is untill I reach end of 0.12 will be at least day 400 in the game.
 

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I play a number of games and support or have supported many game. All have one problem not all player like the updates from time to time. Many games the characters closest to the MC get put on hold to the dismay of some of the fans, but other fans are happy to see the new content. None of the games I supported pleased me all the time even DS
upset me the way the game was going.
  • You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.
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  • Believe half of what you see personally not on the internet. and none of what you hear or read.
  • Ben Franklin (edited by me.)
 

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Guys how many days in the game you are?
I remember E fuck Anna on day 4 and marriage proposition come in day 10-11.
I restart 0.9 and now I'm at day 252 still only handjobs from Anna.My guess is untill I reach end of 0.12 will be at least day 400 in the game.
This is a play question and we can not answer you here, go here for Play through and Help question:
 

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Sorry for the essay, I felt this dealt with also your criticisms in the most efficient and concise manner and also matched criticisms of many other's:

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NO....You are absoloutely wrong....
It's not that we have a problem with BDSM...It's that we were told this was going to be....
"THE BEST INCEST GAME EVER!"
And all it really has become is the best BDSM game ever!
 

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even in the new update, after speak with mon about lisa lessons says that there is no more conteudo, but in the images are some scenes, any ideas?
Yes but we can not help you here in this thread, for all playthrough and help question go here:
 

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This is a play question and we can not answer you here, go here for Play through and Help question:
Actualy I don't ask a play question.I already complete all 12 updates.Just doing restart playing each version to the end and start the next one.Just want to know if someone play par example 600 days in the game.Myabe there is people that already reach day 1000:)
 

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Well from all previews so far we have 37 pics with cocks and 13 with pussies.BTW I'm generous for the second count because half doesn't show much.It's funny that we have almost same number preview images "The Hand protects the pussy".
My only regret is that I can only like this post once! It deserves many more!

In my opinion, another NTR/NPC would be cool. Say another Eric, but not a dick. Someone that actually likes Ann and is a nice guy. The reason I say this is because we have no one to hide our relationship with Ann from. Lisa, Alice and Kira all know. Hell, even the doctor knows. Maybe not even NTR per say where our relationship with Ann isn't affected by him. To me the good thing about incest games are the knowing it's wrong and hiding it, but if everyone knows then what's the big deal?
You are right about this game needing someone to hide the secret from. In most games it is hidden to the other family members until such time as they get caught and get together.

Part of what makes the incest genre exciting is the RISK of getting caught and exposed doing something you are not supposed to do (same reason why an affair is more exciting than just fucking your wife).

A neighbor, a friend of Mom, even a co-worker that comes by once and awhile might give us some of that excitement about getting caught. If he had just kept the secret from others in the family he could have used that early mechanism of Mom barging in and catching you (peeping) to convey that risky behavior.

Even when he does have people get caught recently it doesn't matter because they already know about the sex due to the fact the only way he could come up with for sex with the Mother was making a porn movie and including his older sister! Missed Opportunity.

DS really doesn't understand this genre as it is for those who LIKE incest as a genre. He seems to only understand the abusive versions you read in the papers and not the Fantasy version that is so popular in the erotic stories and plots. This game has ZERO eroticism. There is no LUST other than the lust of the MC to fuck anything that walks by him. And that is why this game fails on so many levels. A game is supposed to challenge you and allow you to essentially role play through a scenario and give you options to explore the many tropes that are included in the genre. But all he has given us is a BDSM plot for getting sex. And once you have played through on one character it's boring doing the same type of thing to the second and third.

The thing about making it Olivia is that 1. Not everyone has played through the Olivia route and 2. Olivia already knows about Max and Lisa, so would Ann really be such a surprise? The neighbour thing would be cool, that's why I said it doesn't have to be NTR per say.

If it's a she then no doubt it's going to end with Max fucking her. There's already too much girls in the game and the more girls, then that means less content per update.

We got rid of Eric what, 5 months ago? Since then the "game" hasn't been as good. I think if you drew a graph for the popularity of this game, it would be decreasing since we got rid of Eric. Why? Because it's been too one dimensional. There's been no contest. When you actually get to a sex scene it just feels too easy.
The issue with Olivia and Lisa GF paths is he didn't plan them to coexist correctly as he should have. It would have been so easy to have them swap partners so you could switch between fucking Lisa or fucking Olivia and instead of making the decision based on picking the right text reply so early in the game (with no hint regarding the possible dead endedness of one choice) he could have put off the training of Lisa until after the first attempt at them having sex and the excuse to do the training.
But Eric forced the issue it seems, just another case of Eric forcing the game to a place it really should never have gone when it did.

He created Eric to give motivation for the incest story to kick off. This in itself, wasn't the mistake. The mistake was having Eric be the center of everything. There was no story without Eric. That was the problem. At the end of the day it's "Big Brother: Incest Story of Your Life" not "Big Brother: Eric's Invasion".

A story can be engaging without a competitor and there's nothing wrong with having a competitor either. Problem is, DS focused solely on the competition. The actual incest story, while certainly not nonexistent, took a back seat to Eric's shenanigans. And the female characters suffered as a result. Ann became a stupid mother. Alice became a sellout, flirting with Stupid Ann's man. And Lisa was hella dense.
Eric might have worked better if he never had sex with the Mother (that you could see anyway) and was just dating and coming over for Dinner so that the Family and the MC would have to hide the incest that was going on. He would be the one they had to keep secrets from and it could have been a plotline where he wondered why Ann wouldn't sleep with him which was because she was getting all the sex she needed from her son.
 

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DS will probably release the most delicious release of all time. If, of course, all the previews that he showed will not end blowjob :D
 

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NO....You are absoloutely wrong....
It's not that we have a problem with BDSM...It's that we were told this was going to be....
"THE BEST INCEST GAME EVER!"
And all it really has become is the best BDSM game ever!
Really.. you address that entire thing with a single mediocre point that not only fails to be valid in a factual debate but is also subjectively inaccurate. BDSM was always heavily involved in the game, from day one; reread what I said, I tackled your point several times.
 

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Actualy I don't ask a play question.I already complete all 12 updates.Just doing restart playing each version to the end and start the next one.Just want to know if someone play par example 600 days in the game.Myabe there is people that already reach day 1000:)
I was going off this part of your statement "I restart 0.9 and now I'm at day 252 still only handjobs from Anna.My guess is untill I reach end of 0.12 will be at " and if you are only getting a HJ from Ann then you are not done with the game because side effect quest allows for BJ from Ann.

As for as far as someone has gone I have 1 game I play when board that is now over 2000 days.
 
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