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so every now and then, people do need a little romance :tf:

a piece of my mind, this is what happen, when you only get 1 month to develop (1 update / 1 month) wew, so just accept it, there nothing you can't do about it except you involve in the making process, lol :tf:

the main problem is,
1. i think DS doesn't know what to do anymore, because he is not actually a writer, you can said he expertise are technical area in developing game
2. the pressure from the people on patreon (who said this and that - and DS think if he is not meet their demand he gonna lose the money)
3. DS not a Sales Person :tf:
Oh ye of little faith....

I don/t think you actually read the dialogues carefully enough to notice the subtle hints DS put in about new events to follow. Too busy wanking and grinding through screens to get to sex pics?

DS has, at least, a general idea where things are going and placed enough hints in the dialogues.

DS decided to do this for a living so support from his patrons is important but nobody can put a limit onto his creative freedom and things do not necessarily move how patrons want them to.

About not being a "sales person"... I disagree - DS has been milking Ann-Max relationship successfully for a long time, once it unravels, he will introduce yet another potentially "milkable" event.
BB is an ongoing visual novel with numerous different paths going on simultaneously and if DS is clever enough - effectively he can make it go on till the cows come home.
 

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Yes the beginning of the game was hinting at it until v8 or 9 and this convo with Lisa was a very big hint.

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Lisa was a very, VERY naive girl at this point. She didn't really understood what she was feeling. In the end it was just "dick love" (or lust, if you will).
 

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It was DS's attempt to introduce romance as he said himself about it in this thread about romance:
"Probably, but it wasn't planned from the beginning. I tried, mostly because people asking me for it, but looks like it doesn't work with me in this particular setting."
So early hints are simply illusional while later are just a failed attempt to fullfil patron's will. Romance wasn't an option to start with
 
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So you don't think blackmailing for sex is a form of rape, well the cops sure do.
Now we know what your morality is.
Well... I.R.L yeah ... I 100% agree with you.

But in all of these games on F95 there are 999 different forms of blackmail.
And in this game i don't really believe there is any kind of Rape of Force...... Making them Mentally insane day by day..sure.... But that's it i think ?.

With Rape gameplay i would think more of
-The mother in Incest Story in the beginning.
-Some girls in New Life.
-Or every body in Milf Control
-Dreams of Desire..
-Any Combin Altion game.
-Corruption
-Four elements Trainers
And i could go on for a long while....

Don't get me wrong... there is some Light BDSM stuff in this game and some playfull scenes like Alice with with the sigarettes.... But that's it.
Max is an incredible asshole in this game, a manipulating asshole, a heartless asshole, just an f*king asshole... But i don't believe he is an Raping Asshole :p
 

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Cuz he's probably physically weaker than any female in his house. I wouldn't bet that he won't rape anyone in a "sequel" if he'll grow up a bit
 

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Well... I.R.L yeah ... I 100% agree with you.

But in all of these games on F95 there are 999 different forms of blackmail.
And in this game i don't really believe there is any kind of Rape of Force...... Making them Mentally insane day by day..sure.... But that's it i think ?.

With Rape gameplay i would think more of
-The mother in Incest Story in the beginning.
-Some girls in New Life.
-Or every body in Milf Control
-Dreams of Desire..
-Any Combin Altion game.
-Corruption
-Four elements Trainers
And i could go on for a long while....

Don't get me wrong... there is some Light BDSM stuff in this game and some playfull scenes like Alice with with the sigarettes.... But that's it.
Max is an incredible asshole in this game, a manipulating asshole, a heartless asshole, just an f*king asshole... But i don't believe he is an Raping Asshole :p
I am not talking about Max I am talking about Alice blackmailing Lisa and Max for sex.

If it was Max doing the blackmailing for sex this game would have went into the trash can.

Any form of power including blackmailing to me for sex is rape and I don't do rape.
No matter if it RL or in a game I don't do rape.
 
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It was DS's attempt to introduce romance as he said himself about it in this thread about romance:
"Probably, but it wasn't planned from the beginning. I tried, mostly because people asking me for it, but looks like it doesn't work with me in this particular setting."
So early hints are simply illusional while later are just a failed attempt to fullfil patron's will. Romance wasn't an option to start with
Well that's just 100% complete bullshit if he said that..
There are SO MANY scenes in this games where there could be a little bit of romance..
Can think of at least a couple dozen examples of how he could have done that.

The fact that he has not done it is or
-He did not had time for it and made the choice not to do it
-He was Lazy.
-Pressure from the horny idiots..

But that it would not work in this setting is complete bullshit.
 

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Well that's just 100% complete bullshit if he said that..
There are SO MANY scenes in this games where there could be a little bit of romance..
Can think of at least a couple dozen examples of how he could have done that.

The fact that he has not done it is or
-He did not had time for it and made the choice not to do it
-He was Lazy.
-Pressure from the horny idiots..

But that it would not work in this setting is complete bullshit.
It's in this thread. Just search his posts and you will find at least 10 similiar posts about his problem with setting. You're a fan so you can't see it but for someone who don't like incest it's so inprobable he can't really write something romantic about it. I'm not a fan of incest and I wouldn't be able to write it as for me it's just extremally unrealistic and DS seems to be same type of guy from what I've seen so far. He's most likely into BDSM and voyeurism. Maybe NTR. It's nothing wrong tho he shouldn't pick this setting in that case.
 
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I am not talking about Max I am talking about Alice blackmailing Lisa and Max for sex.

If it was Max doing the blackmailing for sex this game would have went into the trash can.

Any form of power including blackmailing to me for sex is rape and I don't do rape.
No matter if it RL or in a game I don't do rape.
As if Alice would need to blackmail Max (or Lisa) to get sex in the first place.
 

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Well that's just 100% complete bullshit if he said that..
It's just their point of view in this situation. They don't believe that someone can feel anything other than fraternal love for his/her family.
 

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It's in this thread. Just search his posts and you will find at least 10 similiar posts about his problem with setting. You're a fan so you can't see it but for someone who don't like incest it's so inprobable he can't really write something romantic about it. I'm not a fan of incest and I wouldn't be able to write it as for me it's just extremally unrealistic and DS seems to be same type of guy from what I've seen so far. He's most likely into BDSM and voyeurism. Maybe NTR. It's nothing wrong tho he shouldn't pick this setting in that case.
I even have the feeling he don't even understand porn games.Maybe he is too much on android mmo where to make some progress you need to grind a lot or throw a cash.But we all know why he go to incest-money,lots of money-more than 250 000 $ so far.No other fetish is even close to give you so much money in return.
 

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He grows up to become Eric. Eric is Max from the future who traveled back in time to screw his own family and prevent Max from... Screwing his own family?
Seems like his poor monster cock had hard time to adjust itself to his bigger body. At least his hairstyle is better
 
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Oh ye of little faith....

I don/t think you actually read the dialogues carefully enough to notice the subtle hints DS put in about new events to follow. Too busy wanking and grinding through screens to get to sex pics?

DS has, at least, a general idea where things are going and placed enough hints in the dialogues.

DS decided to do this for a living so support from his patrons is important but nobody can put a limit onto his creative freedom and things do not necessarily move how patrons want them to.

About not being a "sales person"... I disagree - DS has been milking Ann-Max relationship successfully for a long time, once it unravels, he will introduce yet another potentially "milkable" event.
BB is an ongoing visual novel with numerous different paths going on simultaneously and if DS is clever enough - effectively he can make it go on till the cows come home.
first, everyone has a general idea, even you has general idea, being a writer, is about a more specific and targeted idea

second, because DS decided it for living support, he has to take large amount consideration into his developing game (that the whole point of limitation)
let me put this way, have you ever in position that your income, your main and only income, come from 1 place, what do you do if you decide something that against the majority of customer ??
there only 2 outcome either customer abandon you or the customer happy, are you willing to take that gamble ???
(i'm talking about real life choice here, and no one in their right mind take that large amount of risk, especially it related to your living support) - you want to get starving and can't pay your bills ??
and last, being sales is not only about the product but about how the customer are willing to follow you as sales, even if the product is bad or defective

oh yeah forgot, my post earlier just my opinion though, because i dont read post from the beginning, i only follow it recently and watching DS patreon, and from that i just extrapolate it

btw i bold your statement, trying to get to me boy, you are 100 year to young boy, trying to debating with me or to badmouth me, see if i will get angry, is very funny

and do you see i complaining about this game in my other post about this game? i'm just trying to pointing the opinion about DS developing this game

It's not rape if their eyes turn into hearts, ask any lawyer!
it is a rape no matter you see it
if you ask lawyer, i dare to ask which side lawyer perspective ??? the prosecutor or the defender ????
 
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